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Secure Software Development/Information Security #BITCOIN | #BTC | #2A | #1A Typoes are bait.

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Ruby@thisorthat17·
Please. Thank you. You're welcome. Doesn't take much, but it might change your day. #Gratitude and #Appreciation.
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Carmine Paolino@paolino·
hyprmoncfg 1.1.0 is out with: - refined save and apply profile UX - auto move windows when changing workspace strategy - a workspace strategy fix github.com/crmne/hyprmonc…
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RE₿EL@BitcoinRebel·
I have to be careful with this thing and I sure ain’t giving it up over some quantum shit.
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Bjarne Øverli@iamdothash·
Giving these deep colors with a touch of neon a try again. Looks promising.
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Ruby@thisorthat17·
@BitPaine depends, are they quantized?
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JSONB@vyrotek·
New MacBook Pro! What should I install first?
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nic carter@nic_carter·
@christopherrufo the entire US economy runs on fraud this is UBI for people who don't want to work
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Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️
Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️@christopherrufo·
California spends $30 billion a year to pay for more than 500,000 people to stay home with family members and cook, clean, do laundry, and watch television. The program mostly operates on the honor system—and loses $6 to $12 billion to fraud each year.
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MartyParty@martypartymusic·
Exactly - we have had the best cryptographers in the world on the show and the truth is the tradfi system will be pillaged way before cryptographically secure value. The central banks have 1980 security and will be drained first.
Quinten | 048.eth@QuintenFrancois

If quantum “kills” Bitcoin, it also kills: • The global banking system • SWIFT transfers • Stock exchanges • Military communications • Nuclear command systems • Every HTTPS website on earth If Bitcoin is dead from quantum, your portfolio is the least of your problems.

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Quinten | 048.eth@QuintenFrancois·
If quantum “kills” Bitcoin, it also kills: • The global banking system • SWIFT transfers • Stock exchanges • Military communications • Nuclear command systems • Every HTTPS website on earth If Bitcoin is dead from quantum, your portfolio is the least of your problems.
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@BitPaine @aubreystrobel I doubt any of "us" will see anything. It will be swallowed up by .gov secrecy.
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Bit Paine ⚡️@BitPaine·
what nic highlights here is what struck me from the paper and changed my thinking about how urgently we should’ve implementing a solution. I was in the Schelli camp before. nic gives a good analogy in his interview with @aubreystrobel in comparing it to the manhattan project. you’re not going to see a 1 ton, then a 10 ton then a 100 ton then a 1 kt explosion. you’re just going to see a 15 kt explosion wipe out Hiroshima (with apologies to our new Japanese brothers on x).
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nic carter@nic_carter

this might seem like a reasonable take, but it's actually unreasonable and wildly risky. as the Google paper explicitly says (see below), and others note, you will not get warning. the warning is what you are getting now. this is your warning. once logical cubits start to meaningfully scale, you will go from cracking 5 bits to 256 bits very quickly. if you're wagering the future of a trillion dollar asset on QC development following a slow, predictable, linear path, with public milestones, you are taking an enormous risk. Google paper: "progress in quantum computing is better understood using a threshold model rather than in terms of the number of physical qubits" "there may be little time between the breaking of 32-bit ECDLP and the breaking of 256-bit ECDLP. Furthermore, the community should not expect to see published demonstrations of the most advanced quantum error-correction architectures and quantum algorithms deployed to cryptanalytic problems" the field is already self-censoring to avoid giving tools to black hats (again, see the Google paper). progress will happen in secret. additionally, as we all know, it will take a minimum of several years to fully transition. a signature scheme must be chosen, tested, deployed, soft forked, and adopted (this has to happen for every single address, which alone will take months). thus, you have to start acting several years before Q-day. unfortunately, the premise that the development of a CRQC will happen slowly, publicly, and predictably that almost all Bitcoin devs seem to be relying on, is false. Bitcoin devs will have to do something uncomfortable: act under conditions of uncertainty and make difficult and costly tradeoffs _before_ the threat seems clearly apparent. we will not have the luxury to waiting until a N bit key is broken. at that point, we will have weeks or months, not the years required. this means that the testing and deployment of a PQ signature scheme on Bitcoin has to occur in 2026.

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Ruby@thisorthat17·
@matthew_d_green Whoever achieves quantum at scale will not reveal that 0-day on the canary known as bitcoin. It will be reserved for use to steal the most sensitive of state and financial secrets so it can be exploited for years if not decades.
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Matthew Green
Matthew Green@matthew_d_green·
Ok I just want to add one thing. Folks, for state actors, the value of having a quantum computer is massively higher if you DON’T tell people you have a quantum computer. Exploiting Bitcoin is a parlor trick. Exploiting the world’s communications is where the value is at.
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Dave@GamewithDave·
People who actually experienced the 1990s: What is something you miss from that decade that just isn't the same today
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@darkside2030 @scottmelker @TheStalwart They know they are ratcheting the narrative on one asset class versus literally everything else secured by legacy encryption. They might even be too dumb to realize.
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DarkSideOfTheMoon@darkside2030·
Scott, you do realize that the entire Quantum narrative is relentlessly pointed at bitcoin. The issue I see is that the entire financial system run on FIX protocol. This is secured by TLS, a protocol that would be low hanging fruit compared to bitcoin. Common sense tells me there are other intentions with these reports
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The Wolf Of All Streets
The Wolf Of All Streets@scottmelker·
The defensiveness in the comments of this simple tweet from my news team reinforce that we are more of a cult or religion than simply people with a shared belief in an asset. Funny thing is, years ago I had the same emotional defensiveness to an article written by @TheStalwart. Embarrassing in hindsight and I eventually approached him at a conference and said as much.
The Wolf Of All Streets@scottmelker

NEW: 🚨 GOOGLE RESEARCH FINDS QUANTUM COMPUTERS COULD BREAK BITCOIN, ETHEREUM, AND MOST MAJOR BLOCKCHAINS SOONER THAN EXPECTED

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Ruby@thisorthat17·
@iamdothash I modified Waybar to indicate if the e-DP1 monitor is enabled or not, clicking the icon toggles enable/disable the monitor. It was driving me crazy dealing with a workspace on the laptop with the lid closed.
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Rearden Vibes 🛩 fork/acc
There is no design in the paper. It's just more theory craft. If someone were to build a superconducting quantum computer that works, has 500,000 physical qubits, and can maintain coherence for several minutes; then it could crack 256bit ecc. Before this work it would have taken a computer with millions of physical qubits hours or days. Neither of these things are likely to exist this century or ever, considering that the best such device built to date had hundreds of physical qubits coherent for a hundred microseconds or so.
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Ruby@thisorthat17·
@kanemcgukin @_Checkmatey_ post-quantum cryptography initiatives will become prioritized in the near future. Maybe we'll call it Y2Q.
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_Checkmate 🟠🔑⚡☢️🛢️
I read the paper, to the best of my ability. I'm willing to entertain the idea that we have a genuine QC threat on the cards. At a minimum, it would be a mistake to not take it seriously, and start developing a formal PCQ plan for Bitcoin. Having a plan, and not needing it, is far better than the other way around.
nic carter@nic_carter

Many are wondering "what Google saw" that caused them to revise their post-quantum cryptography transition deadline to 2029 last week. It was this: research.google/blog/safeguard…

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Ruby@thisorthat17·
@kanemcgukin @_Checkmatey_ gets lost in the conversation every time. every thing will be at risk, not just btc.
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BitKane@kanemcgukin·
@_Checkmatey_ 🎯 only the one thing, with an extremely small technological position in the world; will be harmed. But all other technologies with much greater embedded value throughout the system will be safe… okay.
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Quantum computing will be swallowed up by the blackhole of governmental secrets. It may exist, but you will never really know to what level. In the near future, research on this topic will simply disappear behind a wall of secrecy.
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