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MASS STRIKE NOW
@trillnomics
“a horrid sight, the blackest gnome.”
Katılım Aralık 2015
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@mlminpractice @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi The other half of the text said Jews who don’t condemn Zionism are complicit in it. Do you remember? Extremely rudimentary wouldn’t you say? And I agree completely get it now? Ok What I don’t agree with is the unfounded part because it’s yk unfounded. All Jews or not?
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@trillnomics @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi Because “I agree with the text, it’s rudimentary other than ‘all Jews benefitting from Zionism’ bc that’s silly” is not possibly the takeaway anyone who engaged with the text could have unless they are functionally illiterate. And I don’t think you are, so I think you’re lying.
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@MishimaFudanshi @mlminpractice @byrnetheory Weird you say this despite me having read the article and replying to your post first with my gripes and so far every but you replied. Hate when ppl can’t just say they don’t have an argument
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@mlminpractice @trillnomics @byrnetheory you are wasting your time, this dude didn't even take the time to read the article nor wants to, just an unreasonable, unbearable person whose interactions with are a genuine waste of time because they have no curiosity nor are willing to change their views even a bit
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@mlminpractice @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi Seems you’re conflating settler Jews with Jews and we’re back to square one. And I’m still not allowed to bring up Jews who are never going to do that ?? Welp looks like you got me
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@trillnomics @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi Can any Christian in the world at any point in their life walk to their nearest church to buy cheap stolen land, pack their bags and move into a native’s stolen house as their “birthright” with a military backing them up?
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@mlminpractice @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi bringing up those Jews up irrelevant here? reminding you you’re spouting cia talking points is irrelevant? Like I said I agree with the text it’s incredibly rudimentary other than “all Jews benefitting from Zionism” bc that’s silly. point is it’s way more edgy than profound
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@trillnomics @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi And if you plan to respond to this with “neither are the world’s Jewish communities” I believe you are flat out lying about having read this piece.
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@mlminpractice @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi I mean America should be condemned globally but I mean to say every Christian benefiting from manifest destiny is a very hard sale
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@trillnomics @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi Zionism has throughly infected nearly every corner of Jewish community & life that identifies itself as such in a way that requires making a distinct conscious break, and requires humbly understanding itself as in the benefactors position and not the victim.
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@mlminpractice @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi And how do you address the fact that you’re perpetuating the narrative that Zionist use to do what they do? How can this not be considered missing the point ? theres Jews who never been to Israel nd never plan to, the ones in Africa, the ones who oppose Israel, etc.
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@IamCJ_27 I feel but then why are we on a steep decline despite being a far far more outreaching neocolonial force as well as having exploited Africa for far far far more than china ever has and still do to this day?
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I wonder how China was able to do that…. It surely can’t be China’s neocolonialism and exploitation of the African continent. 🗿
YourFavoriteGuy@guychristensen_
While America is declining rapidly, literally crashing and burning, China has won. America literally cannot do anything to reverse this. All our empire has done is constant wars for profit. China eliminated poverty, built a bajillion cities, and won.
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@mlminpractice @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi That group being Israelis not Jews in general which is why it’s inflammatory. I normally wouldn’t care but it’s that literal “antisemitism” that actually Israeli settler Zionist are themselves propagating like you’re spreading Mossad propaganda when you say all Jews
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@trillnomics @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi That first sentence is just a truism, there are many who see themselves as having a good understanding but remain defensive of their position, that’s the point of writing this. As well your use of “anyone” is notable. We are specifically talking about the benefactor group.
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@mlminpractice @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi Anyone who understands Zionism, patriarchy and white supremacy sufficiently understands they have to be actively opposed or else you’re supporting it. There is no in between you’re creating an in between group when you say Jews who don’t oppose Zionism bc those are just Zionist
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@trillnomics @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi There are people in all those groups who do, but that doesn’t change that there is a pervasive attitude that it’s not their responsibility and if they aren’t actively supportive of those problems then their hands are clean.
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@obus_r @showerwastaken @MishimaFudanshi It’s inflammatory bc of the language. They say all Jews… who don’t oppose Zionism. Which would ultimately just be Zionist right? Either you support it or you don’t. It’s unnecessarily offensive, there’s nothing wrong with just saying Zionist especially if that’s who you mean
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@trillnomics @showerwastaken @MishimaFudanshi @ptsdboy Okay, I don’t know what/who you’re referring to.
As to why it needs to be “so inflammatory”, frankly I don’t find it so, I think that impression speaks to the distance between cultural hegemony and observable conditions that persist in undermining it
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@obus_r @showerwastaken @MishimaFudanshi @ptsdboy I’m really speaking on the comments under this article than the article itself I agree with the article idk why it needs to be so inflammatory to say such a simple thing. What’s concerning is the so called leftist here being brazenly bigoted and actually thinking it’s helpful
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@trillnomics @showerwastaken @MishimaFudanshi @ptsdboy The piece does not do that. It calls on us as Jews to
- recognize, and not deny, the realities of our communities
- to fight within them without restraint against all manifestations of zionism, bigotry, and violence
I think this is good
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@mlminpractice @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi @ptsdboy That’s not what illicit the response 💀let’s not play dumb now lol all Jews, all men, all white ppl do have to denounce Zionism, patriarchy and white supremacy. And there are ppl in all those groups who do. Your whole point is “there’s not enough” and you’re fixing with edgy?
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@trillnomics @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi @ptsdboy The fact that saying Jews have an obligation against Zionism and can’t simply say “not my problem don’t look at me” elicits such a visceral response is why. It’s not inflammatory it’s matter of fact in the same way yes all white people/yes all men is.
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@seededpeaches @Notazmxr @MishimaFudanshi @ptsdboy Well if yk Israel is using claims of antisemitism to legitimize its genocide of Palestine and now more why in the actual fuck would you not have a problem with the headline of this article? See wat I mean? You’re doing a lot of damage fo this little smidge of woke
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@trillnomics @Notazmxr @MishimaFudanshi @ptsdboy I think they could be easily persuaded if such an opinion was allowed to be communicated without accusations of antisemitism. Israel is an apartheid state, committed genocide, regularly commits war crimes and atrocities. It’s really not a big deal to advocate for its dissolution
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@Notazmxr @seededpeaches @MishimaFudanshi @ptsdboy So why not say that? “Yes all Zionist” I’m so lost how bringing innocent ppl into your definition of Zionism is at all productive
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@trillnomics @seededpeaches @MishimaFudanshi @ptsdboy All zionists are bad and anyone who supports the existence of Israel is bad
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@Notazmxr @seededpeaches @MishimaFudanshi @ptsdboy So not all Jews then? Yk the overwhelming majority of white ppl don’t go any further left than neoliberal who are also Zionism adjacent right. So all white ppl?
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@trillnomics @seededpeaches @MishimaFudanshi @ptsdboy The overwhelming majority like 85+% or Jews are zionists.
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@mlminpractice @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi @ptsdboy I did read it nd truly lost at why a take as basic and like warm as “Jews should condemn Zionism” really needs the edgy inflammatory title like we’re gonna read some darkwoke shit. It’s weird how enthusiastic yall are to sound problematic while only being slightly progressive
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@trillnomics @byrnetheory @MishimaFudanshi @ptsdboy No one’s being vague you’re just refusing to read
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@seededpeaches @MishimaFudanshi @ptsdboy Maybe ask the Jews who regularly protest Israel’s existence. I totally understand many are raised to be Zionist but still many aren’t Zionist so it quite literally can’t be all Jews
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