@HenryStubbs19 @MikamakV @elikowaz Arabs born in Jerusalem DO have the right to Israeli citizenship, and around 19,000 DO have Israeli citizenship.
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Crazy Pete
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@MikamakV @tropicalk @elikowaz 360,000 Arabs born in Jerusalem don't have the right to Israeli citizenship.
You don't have a group of 360,000 people born in Yerevan who don't have the right to Armenian citizenship.
Israel is an apartheid state. Armenia isn't.
Mystery solved Karen
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Armenia's constitution grants citizenship to anyone of Armenian origin. Not called apartheid. Not called Armenian supremacy. The word only comes out for Zionists.
Zachary Foster@_ZachFoster
If you are Jewish, you can move to Israel. If you were born in what became Israel, grew up there & were expelled by gunpoint, but you aren’t Jewish, you can’t move to Israel. Not so complicated after all. It’s called apartheid and Jewish supremacy.
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@MikamakV @tropicalk @elikowaz Palestinians are subjected to systemic segregation and discrimination across 🇮🇱 and the Occupied 🇵🇸 Territories . This is characterized as a "system of apartheid" designed to maintain Jewish 🇮🇱 domination through land seizure, fragmented residency, unequal
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@ibrahimibnyusuf @elikowaz They do have the right to Israeli citizenship. They choose to not have citizenship.
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@elikowaz 360,000 Arabs born in Jerusalem don't have the right to Israeli citizenship.
You don't have a group of 360,000 people born in Yerevan who don't have the right to Armenian citizenship.
Israel is an apartheid state. Armenia isn't.
Mystery solved.
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@WorkersRepublic @gen2023157616 @strxwmxn Simply a lie. There has not been a single instance of a settler seizing a Palestinian home this century.
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@tropicalk @gen2023157616 @strxwmxn The military brings "calm" by slavishly helping the settlers drive out Palestinians so they can live in their shacks in "peace".
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@WorkersRepublic @gen2023157616 @strxwmxn No they don't. There are instances where the military backs up a settler, but the majority of the time the military brings calm to the situation. You are correct that Israel should do better here
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@tropicalk @gen2023157616 @strxwmxn Most countries don't give state support to people committing cold blooded murder. Israel does.
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@WorkersRepublic @gen2023157616 @strxwmxn Every country has murders. If you have a problem with Israel's low rate, than you should have a bigger problem with the higher Palestinian rate, or most other countries. But no, you solely voice a problem with the Jewish state.
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@tropicalk @gen2023157616 @strxwmxn Imagine being proud of murdering ten people a year. Actaully yes, I can imagine Zionists being proud of that.
There are 500,000 across the West Bank and another 246,000 in East Jerusalem.
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@WorkersRepublic @gen2023157616 @strxwmxn For the decade preceding Oct7, the deaths caused by settlers was less than 10 a year, closer to 5, with a Jewish population in the West Bank of over 500,000. This is a very good rate that Israel should be proud of. The deaths via the IDF are against Pali malitias.
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@tropicalk @gen2023157616 @strxwmxn First you call it "slop", then admit that it happens, but try down play it.
Most violence in US cities is between gangs, which are also combated by the state. In Israel the violence is carried out against an unarmed population by the military and militias with full state backing
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@WorkersRepublic @gen2023157616 @strxwmxn A minimal inconvenience. This is ticktock brain slop. The amount of violence by "settlers" while regrettable is low in comparison to violence in the average US city.
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@tropicalk @gen2023157616 @strxwmxn It does control those areas though, along with the airspace and borders.
Palestinians have plenty of interactions with Israelis in the West Bank, mostly in the form of troops or ghoulish settlers brutalising or murdering them.
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@WorkersRepublic @gen2023157616 @strxwmxn It does not control those areas. That is a lie. 95% of Palestinians in the West Bank have zero interaction with Jews.
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@tropicalk @gen2023157616 @strxwmxn Israel already controls those areas, it just denies rights to the people living there.
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In the late parts of my childhood and early teens, I had a continuous and irrational fear that I would not live for very long and certainly did not expect to make it into adulthood. While this began in Gaza, it very much extended into life outside of the coastal enclave, and even while I was in the United States. But then I turned 15, then 18, then 20, then 25, then 30 – and now, at 36, this makes me ever so grateful for the gift of life that I have been entrusted with by God and this universe.
No matter how challenging, demanding, dangerous, stressful, and testing life is, it is beautiful and worth fighting for to make it a meaningful, fulfilling, and a worthwhile journey of learning and experiential growth. This is exactly the reason why I am so ferociously against those who seek to threaten life with violence, religious fanaticism, martyrdom, death cults, hollow nationalism, sloganeering, and useless rhetoric about resistance on behalf of nefarious and failed projects. Everybody deserves life, and I so desperately want that for the Palestinian people of Gaza who have been unfairly robbed of their true potential. My Jewish friends tell me that 36 is the number that symbolizes ‘double life’ – ‘double chai’- something I hope is a good omen for what lies ahead. Thank you for all the birthday wishes, and I hope that everybody can find a way to live life with its stresses and pressures – and in my case, an increasing amount of grey hairs!
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@WorkersRepublic @gen2023157616 @strxwmxn So you want Israel to attack the Palestinian controlled areas, seize their independence, tear up the Oslo Accords, and enforce Israel's will upon them. I agree.
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@gen2023157616 @tropicalk @strxwmxn Many people in the North of Ireland don't want British citizenship, they still have it because that part of their country is ruled by Britain.
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@shakfromny @strxwmxn @MaxNordau Reminder!!! The median age of a Hamas recruit is under 16 years old.
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@strxwmxn @MaxNordau When those images support the well documented fact that Israel has murdered thousands of children, it’s very easy to understand.
You just choose not to.
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I like how many pro-Palestinian activists just openly admit they were swayed by a handful of decontextualized images rather than any serious grasp of the history or political dynamics of the conflict.
Morningstar 🇵🇸 🔻@MissRinaIdrus
This was the image that woke me up. I wasn’t radicalised. I just woke up. What we are feeling isn’t radical at all. It’s actually you being human. Just seeing lifeless bodies of children will do that to you especially as a parent. From that moment on, I hate the illegal Zombie state and I will hate them till the day I die. And that includes all their enablers and supporters in the west and the global south. “What if you were in Gaza? What if those were your kids?” - Macklemore
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@WorkersRepublic @gen2023157616 @strxwmxn So you believe that the West Bank and Gaza belong to Israel. You are more right wing than Netanyahu.
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@gen2023157616 @strxwmxn The West Bank and Gaza have been annexed by Israel since 1967. Therefore its on Israel to respect the rights of the population.
Nothing to do with what I want.
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@mtgreenee Doesn't Israel spend many billions of dollars in America more than the defense coupons?
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Whyyyyyy do we still give them billions of dollars???
Remember when I tried to pass an amendment to defund Israel, ONLY 5 other members of congress voted with me.
BRICS News@BRICSinfo
JUST IN: 🇮🇱🇺🇸 Israeli shekel hits 30-year high against the US dollar.
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@willchamberlain It's much easier to hate on Jews than do something productive.
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You are 46 YEARS OLD.
Get married, have children, and get over yourself!
Killa 🌺@KillaKreww
Theo Von gets EMOTIONAL and breaks down in tears talking about struggling with low self-worth because of how his mother treated him and his fight to move past it 😔👀 “I just wanna look in somebody’s eyes and see them pleased with me… I’m tired of this story.”
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@FallingIntoFilm @strxwmxn He was probably trying to get an excuse to not do military duty.
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My only two comments about this debacle are that:
1. The fact that the world goes apoplectic over minor Israeli misconduct while routinely ignoring far worse atrocities elsewhere shows a double standard steeped in bigotry.
2. The fact that the world goes apoplectic over minor Israeli misconduct alone should make such misconduct completely unacceptable.
Israel Defense Forces@IDF
A short while ago, in full coordination with the local community of Debel in southern Lebanon, the damaged statue was replaced by IDF troops. The Northern Command worked to coordinate the replacement of the statue from the moment it received the report of the incident. The IDF expresses deep regret over the incident, and is working to ensure that it does not happen again in the future.
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@Expose2L @havivrettiggur Every single country that lost a war has military conditions. "Sovereignty" is gobbly gook nonsense. You attack another country and lose -> you lose the right to attack again.
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@havivrettiggur 🇮🇱 is a nuclear state. Nobody is suggesting 🇮🇱 be “defenseless.” 🛑 the gaslighting.
We simply believe that demands to limit Palestine’s military are unacceptable. No sovereign state would accept this as a precondition.
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The progressive plan for Palestinian independence is to condition it on the Jews becoming a defenseless minority in the modern Middle East?
This is considered the "pro-Palestinian" position?
Adam Johnson@adamjohnsonCHI
This is the rub with all “2 state solution” bromides from high status liberals: you ask them to define a “Palestinian state” and even their most blue sky vision is a completely humiliated bantustan occupied by foreign troops. No such comparable demands ofc are ever made of Israel
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@fdondi1 @MGB8187 @RichardEdinger @DastDn Palestinians are just fine in the West Bank. With a lower murder rate than many US cities, and a similar economy with neighboring states.
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@MGB8187 @RichardEdinger @DastDn Again, their normal life can be interrupted by massacres. But they HAVE a normal life.
Palestinians don't have a normality even in theory!
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Why is it assumed that a Palestinian state is some sort of moral duty, that everyone must agree to accomplish?
What makes them better than the Kurds, or Catalans, or Hmong - all of whom are considerably less dysfunctional and genocidal?
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