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@Pawe___1 What does intra-european imperialism even mean? I'm saying that it's unavoidable that more powerful regions will dominate and that remains true in a federal EU

@xccfghkr That's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about intra-european imperialism. Also, federalism exists for a reason.

Maybe this will be seen as heresy by some fellow eurofeds, but I don't want european nations dominating over the rest of Europe (especially France), not even as a lesser evil. Saying the opposite is essentially telling euroskeptics that they're right about eurofederalists.

The MAGA frustration with France on this platform is now reaching 2003 levels of vitriol. Which is of course the sign that France’s position is correct.

To comment on HU politics you should have to pass a test which involves describing what the Professzorok Batthyány köre is, the nature of Hernadi's and Csányi's (OTP guy not the actor) beefs w/ the socdems, who András Knopp was, & what is meant by 'Schmidt Mária ante portas'.

@EuroFrontier Yeah, I thought so. Amazing

@xccfghkr Lol. Hungary is a good place for you.

There are many people who are fluent in tech-aligned right-wing discourse, but have no scientific understanding or rigour. This is how you produce sentences like "AGI will have no patience for these games" appended to a random genomic graphs. Holy larp

@EuroFrontier If you don't have a technical argument you should shut up. Don't use terms you don't really understand.

@xccfghkr I get to see things you don’t 🙂

@EuroFrontier On what basis are you inferring the nature of AGI? Keep larping.

@xccfghkr You just don’t like what’s coming for you, but that isn’t my problem.

Israel needs to be denuclearized. The ultra-orthodox voting bloc will become a majority and their politics is only going to become less rational. Sooner or later they will find themselves in a losing war

Tyler Cowen was right when he said that Paul Krugman (a Keynesian) is the Milton Friedman of our generation

@kurtkreuger @GaryMarcus @MinuteMovies3 @DKokotajlo You're correct, but when I imagined a neurosymbolic system, I thought of one with symbolic reasoning integrated into the architecture itself. Not an LLM with symbolic scaffolding. This feels like stretching the definition a bit.

@xccfghkr @GaryMarcus @MinuteMovies3 @DKokotajlo Certainly math provers and logic verifiers are symbolic, so that with neural nets is neurosymbolic. For coding, I guess linters are symbolic engines, so using those in coding pipelines with LLMs is probably neurosymbolic.

LMAO. Last year most of Silicon Valley was predicting AGI in 2027 (which, spoiler alert, ain’t gonna happen). Now the most prominent former advocate of AGI in 2027, @DKokotajlo, says 2029, and Groks writes it up as “AI forecasters shorten timelines for AGI”, when on net Daniel has moved his mean projection back by two years. @eli_lifland is as 2033, but the headline kind of obscures that, too. Even @grok knows that panic sells; nuance doesn’t.

every time I simplified a complex problem to this bad boy over there I won

Although I think it is often shameful how the provincial nations sabotage core EU interests the solution to this isn't regime change in the periphery. It's for Germany and France to sort themselves out and the rest will follow. It's a downstream effect of west EU incompetence.

@GaryMarcus @MinuteMovies3 @DKokotajlo In what ways is Claude Code neurosymbolic?

@MinuteMovies3 @DKokotajlo Claude Code is suprisingly good. BUt also pretty clear neurosymbolic, not a pure LLM (which is what i have advocated for decades). my beef is with pure LLMs, not neurosymbolic approaches.

AGI emerging in 2020s USA is like Weimar Germany inventing nukes. I don't know what that means for the world, but I'm sure it's not good.

Libertarianism, as a political movement, should die. Austrian economics has been wrong on key issues, and its continued survival through ideological fervor makes it only harder to advance evidence-based economic policy.

In Hungaristan if you have above room temperature IQ the only way to avoid getting recruited by a secret agency is to have a very public and very schizophrenic twitter account

@collapsologist @ForecastFire As for interdisciplinary research: we should probably have more of it and it is increasingly becoming more popular. But we didn't not have interdisciplinary work for any nefarious reasons

@xccfghkr @ForecastFire From what i gather the only institute in the west that is actually doing systems and complexity theory is the Santa Fe institute, i don't think there is really much truly interdisciplinary work going on, people mostly stay in their lane, but i'm not in academics so idk

Great Q. The modern western left's relationship to cybernetics fits three buckets: 1. "what's that? robot arms?" -- by far the most common. I thought this too. Most people have simply never encountered the word outside of sci-fi. 2. "behaviourist 💥 [vine boom], technocratic 💥, positivist 💥, unmarked universalism 💥, reductionist, 💥, totalizing 💥 , scientistic, 💥, mechanistic, 💥, Cartesian, 💥 panoptical 💥, managerialist, 💥, neoliberal. 💥💥💥" — Mx. Actual Critical Theory Degree. - Honestly, this ain't wrong. The cybernetic concepts that dispersed and thrived in the US are the managerial/engineering cybernetics. Cybernetic concepts fed directly into scientific management, operations research, and the kind of systems optimization language that corporations love. 3. "this is the knowledge we need to manifest [insert preferred governance structure] or harness and steer existing structures". xenofeminists, cryptanarchists, soviet revivalists, Beer-heads, Bookchin-pilled municipalists, and so on. IMO, cybernetics naturally attracts anyone involved in serious attempts at new forms of coordination. Cybernetics is largely forgotten by everyone, not just the left - yet it was arguably the hottest trans-disciplinary scientific movement of the mid-20th century. The Macy Conferences (1945-55) brought together people from neuroscience, anthropology, mathematics, psychology, and engineering to ask foundational questions about information, feedback, and communication. It had ENORMOUS buzz for decades, and its fingers are in every little pie. Unfortunately, the field fractured. Cybernetics is more of a meta-framework like "the theory of evolution", not a domain-specific discipline like geology. The parts that were easiest to operationalize split off and became their own disciplines, like: AI, computer science, control theory, cognitive science, systems engineering. The harder philosophical questions ("what does it mean for an observer to be part of the system they're studying?") led to second-order cybernetics, which was intellectually rich but institutionally homeless. The Biological Computer Lab, the leading cybernetics research center in the US, got defunded in 1969 when the Mansfeld Amendment cut military support for research without direct weapons applications, and Heinz von Foerster refused to reframe his work to fit. No undergrad programs were ever established, and the movement lost its center. Even still, concepts born from cybernetics are everywhere: neural networks, feedback, black box, information theory, homeostasis, self-organization, even the prefix cyber- itself. Sadly, almost nobody recognizes they came from the same intellectual tradition, or WHY they emerged together. source: Stuart Umpleby's 6-hour lecture on the fundamentals and history of cybernetics is the best single resource i know of: youtube.com/watch?v=obvzUj…. For a book, check E. W. Kuppers' A Transdisciplinary Introduction to Cybernetics (2023)

@collapsologist @ForecastFire That's not true as many other institutions pursue it. In my opinion, the truth is that new research in that field is not very interesting or useful. Beyond developing a systems-level perspective, it's just abstract math. (also system theory != complexity theory)

@collapsologist @ForecastFire I was taught systems theory and I don't feel like it's some kind of secret sauce. I mean, it's an advantage, but it's an advantage that almost every STEM major possess.

@collapsologist @ForecastFire Every engineer implicitly or explicitly learns systems thinking. Systems theory is thriving and interdisciplinary fields, especially with the advent of AI are highly popular. Can you give an example of the kind of research you think is missing?