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@gospel_lens @stackerco You really need to study more philosophy and religion if that's the best you've got.

@yjacket1 @stackerco Thinking a human into existence knowing their entire future in advance knowing they will inflict harm or go to hell while having the ability to choose not create that human is what kills free will.

These younger Mormon apologists are coming from a completely different environment. A different Mormonism really. They’ve grown up shaped inside apologetics and polemics, so these reinterpretations feel normal to them. They haven’t really experienced lived Mormonism as it was, what you might call Bruce R. McConkie Mormonism of certainty and hard claims. They haven’t lived through the church calling things anti Mormon that turned out to be real history. Instead, they’ve inherited something thinner, more flexible, more abstract, more surface level where they can ignore deep doctrines and past teachings and prophets that teach things they don’t like. And that’s all they know. They are trained to creatively resolve problems instead of confronting them. Their informative years were based on “doubt your doubts” while we were raised with Hugh B Browns’ “We must be willing to give up cherished beliefs if evidence and truth require it.” So when contradictions show up, the instinct isn’t to question the system like it was for many of us Gen Xers. Their instinct is to reframe it. That’s what they believe is the best way to find truth. The Stick of Joseph podcast is an example. A couple guys in their 20s. If you watched that interview with John Dehlin, it’s hard to miss the combination: confidence without context and arrogance. But it’s not just indoctrination. This social media thing has given them more incentive. In-group platitudes and shallow statements get likes and views and praise. Their identity, platform, and status are tied to defending the system so their reasoning is motivated, not neutral. They haven’t had a chance to think for themselves. And now with social they cannot. You can see these apologetics have changed from guys like Hugh Nibley to apologetics that just try to soften problems. Ward Radio, Stick of Joseph, all these shows have zero depth. They’ve shifted from Hugh Nibley claims to how do we create ambiguity so anything could be allowed to be true? It’s the only way to survive modern scrutiny, by making everything unfalsifiable. So now they’re arrogant. They think they’ve figured it out better than us old guys. Because they’re “more nuanced” and “intellectually mature” than the past generations. They don’t get caught up in minor things like polygamy, race in the priesthood, anachronisms, Book of Abraham translations like us old idiots do. And it’s our fault we didn’t research this stuff and just believed the church when we were growing up. Really the generations have grown up in entirely different religions and cultures. And while we may have been trained to think more black and white, the younger generation has been trained against thinking critically.

@gospel_lens @stackerco You got it! You and your big brain have figured out the answer that better men than you have.

@Radbot13 @itsanotherjon @leevalueroach Lol tell that to the people who lost their house in the 08 crash when I bought it for less than what it sold for in the 80s.

@yjacket1 @itsanotherjon @leevalueroach You dont just lose the house after 20 yrs of paying because you lost your job, wtf

A 30-year fixed mortgage is basically a long-dated call option on inflation. You borrow dollars today, lock the rate, and repay in nominal terms. If inflation explodes, your debt evaporates in real terms while your house price soars. You’re long the house, short the dollar.

@gospel_lens @stackerco You are creating a logical fallacy.. just because you state something doesn't make it so.

@gospel_lens @stackerco How does it kill free will?

@GrumpierBTDay @leevalueroach Until you lose your job.

@leevalueroach This is *exactly* why I bought way more house than I could afford. hashtag valueinvesting hashtag inflation hashtag endthefed

@itsanotherjon @leevalueroach Or lose your job. Welp sucks to have paid 20 years only to lose it in the end.

@leevalueroach Your debt evaporates in real terms, but it’s irrelevant. Unless your income tracks inflation, your ability to pay off the loan remains unchanged. Even worse, if your earnings *don’t* track inflation, and costs do, it becomes *more* difficult to pay off the loan.

@gospel_lens @stackerco Sure man. Nominally yes caveat being I don't entirely know your definition of each word. LDS have totally different definitions for the same words.

@yjacket1 @stackerco No let's talk about it. Does your God create the rules of reality, is he all powerful, is he all knowing, and does he create from nothing? I assume you would say yes to all of those but correct me if I’m wrong.

@gospel_lens @stackerco ??? Because human beings can disobey? Such a sophomoric argument.

@yjacket1 @stackerco Nah that rendition of God still has the problem of Evil.

@gospel_lens @stackerco Try Eastern Orthodox.

@stackerco Or you guys are just mad that your arguments don't really affect us anymore. It’s not because we aren’t critically thinking. It’s because the apologetics are just...good. Younger saints realize it's logically the only realistic religion. Critics are mad the church is winning.

@Timcast This makes me so angry. I can’t even read about this case. I just start losing my shit. Why are we letting lesbians foster children when we have such good data on the fact that they are violent and mentally ill?

@pdoel @Katy_Faust

@yjacket1 @Katy_Faust I don’t use dental dams. I’ve never had an std. I’ve been in a stable relationship for 29 years. Why are you obsessed with the sex lives of strangers?

Question for you all. What was your position on #GayMarriage ten years ago? What is it now? If it changed, why? What content or stories did you encounter? What reasoning resonated with you?

@pdoel @Katy_Faust 😂😂😂😂 says the guy who has to use dental dams.

@yjacket1 @Katy_Faust I haven’t encouraged anyone to do anything. What people do in their bedrooms is none of my business. According to your theory that anal sex causes cancer and is therefore abusive, proves that vaginal sex is also abusive as it has the same risks. Why do you abuse women?

@pdoel @Katy_Faust Sodomy is abusive. Any dude who is having anal sex with a woman is abusing her. You queers have encouraged everyone to be as sick as you.

@yjacket1 @Katy_Faust Straight couples have anal sex. You’ve proven that heterosexual is abusive since it increases the risk of HPV and cancer.

@pdoel @Katy_Faust Dental dams and butt plugs are just for aesthetics... Dude you are a very sick individual. Sick in soul and body. You need God.

@pdoel @Katy_Faust Only a queer can seriously make the delusional argument that the garbage shoot should be used as a sexual receptacle and that is healthy! The demons are strong with homosexuals.

@pdoel @Katy_Faust Nothing will suffice because you are so stepped in it you are past feeling.

@yjacket1 @Katy_Faust So seems like an incredibly weak argument against same sex couples having children.

@pdoel @Katy_Faust Read Health Hazards of Homosexuality. What you do is degenerate, absolutely disgusting, abusive to both body and soul. Lord Have Mercy!

@yjacket1 @Katy_Faust Quick google search shows the only added risk for anal sex is HPV, which is also a risk for regular sex. So there’s no extra risk in it, compared to conventional sex. And not all same sex couples have anal sex, and not all there are heterosexual couples who have anal sex.

@pdoel @Katy_Faust Do you deny that using the rear as a sexual release leads to cancer and need to use a bag?

@yjacket1 @Katy_Faust Say you’re an uneducated, homophobic psycho without saying you’re an uneducated, homophobic psycho.