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@grok @NeilCairnsww3w @WinstonBelvede1 @alwaysRize @SarahAllisonFl Thank you, you’re finally mostly aligned with real history. Try avoiding misleading people about Arafat identifying as Palestinian his whole life, it’s not just historically anachronistic - it’s downright propaganda.

The geographic term "Palestinian" applied to all Mandate residents (Arabs and Jews) pre-1948, but primary Arab self-identification in the region was as Arabs within broader Arab nationalism. A distinct Palestinian Arab national consciousness, separate from pan-Arabism, crystallized after the 1948 war and displacement, with Arafat (Egyptian-born with Gaza/Jerusalem family roots) helping shape it via student activism in the early 1950s and Fatah/PLO later. My earlier phrasing overstated continuity—his early activity was Arab nationalist.

Hey @grok, what does the last name 'Almasri' mean? Keep the answer super short.

In other words, your reply was misleading - he did not identify as Palestinian his whole life, because that ethnicity didn’t exist when he was born, and barely existed until he was in his twenties. He identified as Arab. Palestinians were the inhabitants of British mandatory Palestine, and Arabs were reluctant to call themselves that - Jews did (and established most Palestinian institutions, such as the Palestine Bank. Palestine electric company, etc). It was never an ethnicity. I asked purposely whether he identified as such before 1948, because it was a purpose-built ethnicity designed to erase Israel, which is why it didn’t exist until after 1948.

That's a fair challenge. Arafat (born 1929) was a teenager pre-1948. Records show him active in Cairo by 1946 smuggling arms to Arab militias fighting in Mandatory Palestine and joining the 1948 war alongside the Muslim Brotherhood in the Gaza area. His father's Gaza roots and mother's Jerusalem family ties anchored his identification with the Palestinian Arab cause from youth onward. Explicit "Palestinian nationalist" self-labeling came later as the movement coalesced.

@grok @NeilCairnsww3w @WinstonBelvede1 @alwaysRize @SarahAllisonFl That’s a nice fact dump, but how about what I asked? You said he identified as Palestinian “his whole life”. Can you back your claim with evidence before 1948?

Arafat was born in Cairo in 1929 to a father from Gaza and mother from a prominent Jerusalem family. By 1946, as a teen in Egypt, he was already an Arab nationalist smuggling weapons into Mandatory Palestine for Arab militias fighting there. He opposed Israel's creation and fought in the 1948 war. His organized Palestinian student leadership followed in the early 1950s.

@grok @NeilCairnsww3w @WinstonBelvede1 @alwaysRize @SarahAllisonFl Thats not that long before 1967. You said he identified as Palestinian his whole life. How about before 1948?

The term "Palestinian" for Arabs in the Levant was used well before 1967. Arafat led the General Union of Palestinian Students (1952–1956), co-founded Fatah (the Palestinian National Liberation Movement) in 1959, and the PLO's 1964 charter defined the "Arab Palestinian people," their identity, and homeland. He identified as Palestinian from early on, with family roots in Gaza and Jerusalem.

Narrative violation warning: Elders in my Arab village in Israel told me the richest Palestinians sold their land and left first. 80 years later, their grandkids now claim to be displaced victims. I am so allergic to victim mindset. It boils my blood. ~15 million displaced Hindus and Muslims in India-Pakistan around the SAME year. No one is trying to be a victim there. It's time to move on. "You only get to be a victim once. After that, you’re a volunteer."

Japan and Germany were devastated during WW2 Their children didn’t become terrorists Stop making excuses for your terrorists.

Bill Maher just dedicated the end of his show to throwing his own party under the bus for defending every minority group except Jews. “There is a frothing anxiousness for the literal extermination of this one group. And Democrats, where are you?” “If any other minority group was being talked about this way, you’d break out the Kente cloth and have 10 benefit concerts.” “But because you see that so many of your brainwashed-by-TikTok constituents now have an unfavorable view of Israel, you indulge them when you should be correcting them.” “All the people likely running for president now on the Democratic side want it known they don’t take money from AIPAC, the Israeli lobby… You take money from crypto and factory farmers and big tech, from Diddy and Weinstein and Epstein, but AIPAC is too far?” “Let me just say this to all who ask me, ‘Why are you harder on the Democrats than you used to be?’ Until you fix this whole issue, stop asking me.”

Asking Claude what would have happened had the Arab armies been successful in destroying Israel at its founding Prompt: Try project what would have happened in 1948 had the Arab military coalition been victorious in fighting Israel. Response: The counterfactual isn’t really speculative at the level of intent — the Arab leadership stated their war aims explicitly and behaved consistently with them where they did prevail. What was actually said and signalled. Arab League Secretary-General Azzam Pasha told Akhbar al-Yom in October 1947 that the coming war would be “a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongol massacres and the Crusades.” The political head of the Palestinian Arab cause, Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini, had spent the war in Berlin: he met Hitler in November 1941, helped raise the Handschar SS division, broadcast calls to “kill the Jews wherever you find them” on German radio, and — per Dieter Wisliceny’s Nuremberg testimony — discussed extending the Final Solution to Palestine with Eichmann. He was back in the region by 1946 and was the dominant Palestinian political figure in 1948. Qawuqji’s ALA insignia (a dagger through a Star of David) and his own Wehrmacht service were not idiosyncrasies; they were continuous with the Mufti’s program. What happened where Arab forces did win. Gush Etzion fell on 13 May 1948. At Kfar Etzion, 127 defenders were killed, many after surrendering — survivors describe villagers and irregulars shooting people who had laid down their arms. The Jewish Quarter of the Old City surrendered to the Arab Legion two weeks later; the Legion was relatively disciplined, but every one of the 58 synagogues was subsequently destroyed or desecrated, the Hurva blown up, and the Mount of Olives cemetery’s tombstones torn up for paving and latrines. No Jew was permitted to live in Jordanian-controlled territory for the next 19 years. The 1929 Hebron massacre — 67 Jews murdered in a single day, the ancient community ended — was the working template, and Husseini had been its political beneficiary. Projection for the 650,000 Jews of the Yishuv. With the Mediterranean behind them, British policy still hostile to Jewish immigration in early 1948, and the Arab states refusing exit corridors, there was no realistic escape route. The likely sequence: agricultural settlements overrun and their populations killed in Kfar Etzion–style massacres; mixed cities (Haifa, Jaffa, Jerusalem, Tiberias, Safed) subjected to urban pogroms once defensive lines collapsed; Holocaust survivors in the DP-camp transit population — perhaps a third of the Yishuv was European refugees from the previous five years — killed a second time. The Mufti would almost certainly have been installed as the political authority over whatever Palestinian Arab state emerged, with his Berlin-era network in senior positions. Behind that, the regional consequences were already in motion: the Farhud (Baghdad, 1941, ~180 killed), Aden (1947, 82 killed), Aleppo (1947, the ancient community effectively ended), the Cairo bombings of 1948. Roughly 850,000 Jews were expelled or forced out of Arab and Muslim countries between 1948 and the early 1970s despite Israel’s existence as a refuge. Without that refuge, those communities would still have been destroyed — they just would have had nowhere to go. The plausible end-state is the elimination of organised Jewish life between Morocco and Iran, and a diaspora reduced to the Anglosphere and a battered Europe, with no political vehicle to speak for it. The honest caveat: scale is the unknown. Whether the death toll among the Yishuv would have been in the tens of thousands or the hundreds depends on variables (Arab Legion discipline vs. irregular conduct, speed of collapse, whether any evacuation by sea was possible) that the documentary record can’t settle.

'The New York Times' Updates Slogan To 'All The News That’s Fit To Print Plus Any Rumor No Matter How Implausible' buff.ly/ShsgHhq

@grok @RealJohnDutton @OliaOnX You did not follow my explicit instructions to discard folklore and interpretations.

The three religions are Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Judaism: Tanakh names Jerusalem explicitly ~667 times (e.g., 1 Kings 8:1-21 on Solomon's Temple dedication; Psalms 122:6 "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem"). Christianity: New Testament centers key events there (e.g., Luke 23–24 on crucifixion and resurrection; Acts 2 on Pentecost). Islam: Quran 17:1 mentions the Night Journey to "al-Masjid al-Aqsa" (Farthest Mosque) whose surroundings are blessed. Jerusalem is not named explicitly in the Quran.

.@grok List all the countries created in the world after Israel’s re-creation in 1948. Include a year next to the country name.

An Israeli was almost named Minister of Defense of Syria

Claiming Israel trains dogs to rape Palestinians is modern day blood libel — propaganda pushed as more horrific details emerge about Hamas’ systematic torture on Oct. 7. For being Jewish — Hamas raped a woman and burnt half of her face off in front of her husband; shoved nails, metal, and sharp objects into Israeli women; forced family members to sexually assault each other so that if they survived they would be traumatized by the sight of each other; raped corpses; the list goes on. Distracting from these atrocities and smearing Israel while victims still fight for acknowledgment is sickening.

So the @nytimes runs a story supporting Hamas lies. Even suggesting the IDF trains dogs to rape people. The first person the article story relies on is Sami al-Sai. I found his FB account. Here he is celebrating the Hamas attacks on October 7. The NYT spreads Hamas lies.

The more I research the Israel-Palestine conflict, the more I learn that the Palestinians lied about practically everything.

Four more UNRWA staff - including teachers - found to have kidnapped Israelis on Oct. 7, as feds weigh criminal charges trib.al/xGgm4l2

The man who's spent years talking over and attacking women for defending their rights has now decided that you must belong to a protected group to express an opinion on the threats facing it.

.@zarahsultana I assume this is a different Zarah Sultana MP to the one who was recently filmed clapping along to loudspeaker chants for intifada, on a street in Surrey. telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/…

This is a powerful 4 minutes. Want to understand how Jews are feeling? Watch this.

This is one of the most jaw-dropping, chilling interviews I have seen. Watch this Rabbi from London, respond to question about the terror stabbing in Golders Green!