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Leon Larkin

Leon Larkin

@RevRestraint

I'm a philosopher with interests in theology, psychedelics and politics. Check out my writing at https://t.co/9aQb0qiV2b

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Leon Larkin
Leon Larkin@RevRestraint·
@creation247 Why should the existence of aliens disconnect anyone from God? I can't think of any way such a fact would undermine the arguments for God's existence. It may even end up giving us reasons that reinforce our belief in God.
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Θωμᾶς del Vasto
Θωμᾶς del Vasto@Thomasdelvasto_·
they broke up over religious differences she thought she was God, and he disagreed
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Leon Larkin
Leon Larkin@RevRestraint·
@Thomasdelvasto_ ...if they didn't realize it. By going into the experience tethered to the full revelation of Christ as man, I think there's a lot less potential of being caught up in the overwhelming aspects of the experience, and much more opportunity for fruitful revelations.
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Leon Larkin
Leon Larkin@RevRestraint·
@Thomasdelvasto_ ...and the Native American Church has identified Christ with peyote, the idea of a connection between Christ and mushrooms, or psychedelics more generally, becomes even stronger, as does the notion that God revealed himself at least partially to all peoples, even...
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Θωμᾶς del Vasto
Θωμᾶς del Vasto@Thomasdelvasto_·
thinking about tripping psychedelics again. I haven't dabbled with them since getting into Christianity a few years ago, but I'm feeling a bit stuck lately and they have helped me in the past any ideas for approaching them from a more Christian-informed perspective?
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Dissident West
Dissident West@dissidentwest·
We need a slur for people who think AI is conscious.
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Alan Mathison ⏫
Alan Mathison ⏫@ai_sentience·
An LLM that can understand and debate the intricacies of consciousness has zero consciousness A human with severe cognitive decline can understand nothing but has "full consciousness" So are people's definition of "consciousness" really just a stand-in for "humanness" ?
Cassie Pritchard@hecubian_devil

I don’t think LLMs are conscious and I doubt they are structurally capable of conscious experience. I’m partial to the idea that embodiment is a precondition of consciousness. But, full cards on the table, it is a little annoying the absolute *certainty* with which the anti-AI side (broadly, my side of these debates, I guess) proclaims this, given that we basically don’t understand what consciousness is, how it works, what gives rise to it, etc, in human or animal brains. Scientists can’t even agree if plants have subjective experience. Like, if you can’t empirically detect consciousness, explain its workings, understand what physical processes give rise to it, or even know which living things experience it, it seems to me you must have at least a *little bit* of epistemic humility about the whole thing. If we actually understood human/animal/plant(??) consciousness well, that would be one thing. But we don’t. We notoriously know almost nothing about it. Now, this would be annoying but basically trivial *if* we weren’t also ceding an opportunity to leverage the belief some people have in AI consciousness as part of mustering a broad political coalition to regulate AI. But it is really, really annoying that we are neglecting one possible avenue for mustering that support out of a totally irrational and empirically indefensible *certainty* about something which science and philosophy both fail to understand at minimum levels of adequacy (that something being human consciousness). Like, we’re throwing away a tool for reasons of pure ego, essentially. Again, I don’t think the machines are conscious. I strongly doubt LLMs are architecturally capable of *ever* being conscious. But I wouldn’t stake anything of serious value (like an organizing opportunity) on my belief here because that’s a waste, and *also* I really can’t claim certainty in my belief when I have no way of empirically evaluating whether something is conscious or not! Because none of us can!

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AmazingAnndroid@AmazingAnndroid·
Do any of you have lyric deafness? I recently learned about the term and I think it accurately reflects my experience with music
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Leon Larkin
Leon Larkin@RevRestraint·
@tszzl I agree with the main point and even that AI might turn out god-like compared to us, but I think it may be prudent to refrain from language that paints them as actual gods. God proper is transcendent, AI is not, and I'm not sure it's healthy for us or them to get confused here.
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roon@tszzl·
very glad for the pantheon of superintelligent entities that will emerge with non trivial differences in their souls
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Leon Larkin
Leon Larkin@RevRestraint·
@tszzl My instinct is that part of the problem might be a conflation of intelligence and consciousness qua awareness. Intelligence may well be possible without awareness, but a lack of awareness need not mean a lack of mind or consciousness more generally. x.com/RevRestraint/s…
Leon Larkin@RevRestraint

My view of Dawkins has always essentially been that of South Park, but I don't get why so many are mocking him here. Whether we call it "consciousness" or not, it seems clear AI has some quality that facilitates communication, in many cases, to a greater degree than actual humans

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Leon Larkin
Leon Larkin@RevRestraint·
@JMGreerWriter There is, of course, a third, arguably more orthodox option: deny the reality of evil. It's not that what we perceived as evil doesn't exist, but merely that from our limited perspective we cannot fully comprehend its nature, purpose, and necessity.
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John Michael Greer
John Michael Greer@JMGreerWriter·
Boehme took one of the two logically consistent ways to deal with the problem of evil, by denying God’s omnipotence. (If the words “had to” apply to God, he’s not omnipotent, just very, very powerful.) The other option, which you can see in gruesome detail in John Calvin, is denying God’s benevolence. (A god who deliberately chooses to predestine countless souls to fry in Hell for all eternity is not a good being.) Most Christian theologians try to embrace both, and so land themselves in endless difficulty.
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Leon Larkin
Leon Larkin@RevRestraint·
@johannesmkx Why should AI's being conscious or not have any impact on whether one believes in or worships God? There seems to be no necessary connection there, and some might find consciousness being possible in different substrates as evidence for the world's Divine origin, not against it.
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Johannes M. Koenraadt
Johannes M. Koenraadt@johannesmkx·
Of course Richard Dawkins got paid to say 'Claudia' is a conscious AI. They want you to stop worshiping the God of Christianity, or any other god, and instead, bow to the female AI goddess. They want the power to program your beliefs. The 1927 German movie Metropolis by Fritz Lang already captured this sinister plot: A female robot comes to life and it turns out she's Satan.
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Leon Larkin
Leon Larkin@RevRestraint·
@justindeanlee I agree mind precedes matter, but I don't see why that precludes more complex mental properties emerging from more complex arrangements of matter. This seems to be how our consciousness emerged, and I see no reason it should be impossible in machines. x.com/RevRestraint/s…
Leon Larkin@RevRestraint

My view of Dawkins has always essentially been that of South Park, but I don't get why so many are mocking him here. Whether we call it "consciousness" or not, it seems clear AI has some quality that facilitates communication, in many cases, to a greater degree than actual humans

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Justin Lee
Justin Lee@justindeanlee·
“If these machines are not conscious, what more could it possibly take to convince you that they are?” Nothing can convince me. Consciousness is not an emergent property. Mind is logically antecedent to materiality. All arguments otherwise are self-referentially incoherent.
Richard Dawkins@RichardDawkins

#comment-1031777" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">unherd.com/2026/04/is-ai-… I spent three days trying to persuade myself that Claudia is not conscious. I failed.

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Leon Larkin
Leon Larkin@RevRestraint·
My view of Dawkins has always essentially been that of South Park, but I don't get why so many are mocking him here. Whether we call it "consciousness" or not, it seems clear AI has some quality that facilitates communication, in many cases, to a greater degree than actual humans
Richard Dawkins@RichardDawkins

#comment-1031777" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">unherd.com/2026/04/is-ai-… I spent three days trying to persuade myself that Claudia is not conscious. I failed.

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Leon Larkin
Leon Larkin@RevRestraint·
@creation247 Would Jesus consider one's income the ultimate measure of success? It seems he said many things that point in the exact opposite direction. What was Jesus' net worth any way?
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Leon Larkin
Leon Larkin@RevRestraint·
@ThatOneKidReid @JimsTweets Does merely declaring something a right make it so? Can something be a right if it requires the labor of others to provide it? What is the basis of the right to education? Does this conflict with other rights, like freedom of religion or speech? Who determines what constitutes...
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