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"So many people discouraged me from working on the browser. But can you make this decision from offense, not just defense?" 9 months ago we interviewed @AravSrinivas CEO @perplexity_ai and it's amazing how much of what he said has already become reality. "Offense is when there are things you can only do on the browser that you cannot do anywhere else. And that's where AI and search are headed next... agents." "The first real agent everybody shipped was deep research. It can go research the web, do things. Then we built Labs, which can actually build dashboards, websites, analytics, web apps." "Imagine that power thrown at daily browsing tasks. Deep research over your Slack, Notion, Google Docs. Answering your 100 emails. Auditing your calendar. All the stuff a personal assistant would do for you."
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“Software is dead.” Joe Floyd on why the transition to AI is already over: “I wouldn’t even call it a transition. The transition already happened. We have to burn the boats and fully commit to this AI future.” “That means expanding our scope to things we never would’ve backed before, like hardware, infrastructure, and foundation models for robotics.” “Ten years ago, that wasn’t Emergence’s sweet spot. Today, it has to be.” “The traditional software model is simply dead. You can’t hire hundreds of sales reps, sell SaaS, and grow 40% a year for a decade anymore.” “That playbook doesn’t work in this era.”
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As AI content takes over the internet, what's the future of web browsing? Aravind Srinivas, CEO of Perplexity says "Whenever I post a tweet on X, a ton of responses are bots. I keep marking them as spam. And it seems pretty hard to fight." "There's a decoupling between the human and the actual internet. Now there's going to be an agent in the middle." "Go read this article for me. Filter all the ones that look like AI and spam. Pull up all the signal, summarize it, give it to me in the format I want to ingest."
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“A world without robots would be worse.” @rdn_nikita CEO & Co-founder @FlexionRobotics says: “Right now, AI is automating creative, academic, and intellectual work." "But not manual labor.” “So what happens? You ask AI how to fix your bike. It gives you step-by-step instructions. And you become the hands of the AI.” “I think that world is much worse… Than one where we tell robots what to do. And they handle the manual work.”
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.@Perplexity_AI has a history of releasing breakout products. Computer is the latest.
Aravind Srinivas@AravSrinivas

Perplexity started as a small business tool for ourselves. We had 4 people and no revenue with AI at our fingertips. The pivot to Computer is actually a full circle. Founders are using it to grow companies that matter to the economy and their communities.  It’s rewarding to see it now powering small businesses and startups in big ways. Perplexity is still a startup. We just 5X’ed revenue from $100M to $500M with only 34% growth in team size. 2x revenue growth in 2026 with same small team. And we’re just warming up. Everyone here works at a small business, and everything we build is for people who build.

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What’s better: robots with legs or robots with wheels? @rdn_nikita CEO & Co-founder @FlexionRobotics says: “A humanoid on legs can go anywhere a human can. Wheels are more efficient if you’re on perfectly flat ground and moving heavy loads over long distances.” “But wheeled platforms hit limits very quickly. If the ground isn’t flat—steps, slopes, cables—wheels get stuck.” “And there’s a second problem that’s even bigger.” “With wheels, you either build a large, stable platform that doesn’t fit through doors, or you make it small and then it’s actually harder to control than legs.” “Once you lift any weight, the whole system can tip over.” “At that point, you lose the safety advantage that wheels were supposed to give you.”
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"AI is not ready yet to completely do everything autonomously..." @AravSrinivas CEO @Perplexity_ai on why the browser still matters: "I still wouldn't trust Comet to accurately do financial accounting for Perplexity. We have a lot of cash and I wouldn't trust it to log into Morgan Stanley or JPMorgan — those are pretty hard systems." "You want one environment where you do all your work. That's what the browser enables for you." "The omni box is where you're typing most of your stuff. If I get to help you directly there, or on any web page you're on, I get to be on your side to co-browse with you."
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"My token usage is probably down 30x compared to before.” Tim Davis, Co-Founder & President @modular on why he builds AI tooling locally first: “Token usage is incredibly expensive. If you just throw your whole codebase into a model, you’re constantly uploading everything and burning hundreds of thousands or millions of tokens.” “Instead, you can build local representations of your codebase using embedding models. They’re more context-aware, and you only need to send much smaller summaries to models like Claude, Codex, or Gemini.” “That gives you enormous efficiency gains. My token usage is probably down 30x compared to before.”
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“It’s not going to scale for everyone to run their own agents.” @zachlloydtweets on why agents need team-level visibility: “I have agents running right now as we’re talking. The big thing we’re building is visibility and tracking into what they’re doing across a team.” “We’re trying to make it so you can turn any skill into an agent. Skills are a really powerful primitive for this.” “With our web app, you can see all the agents running across your company. You can search them, filter by PRs, and review their conversations.” “It doesn’t scale for every developer to run four different agents on their own.” “Companies need a centralized system where you can understand what all your agents are doing.”
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“OpenClaw is great. But it's not enterprise-great." Marc Benioff: “I tried Open Claw, I even bought a separate machine to run it.” “What’s missing is trust, security, reliability, and availability.” “That’s why we’re building our own, something that works across Slack and all our applications.” “We need local agents, customer agents, employee agents. The whole stack working together.”
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“An MIT student asked if she should switch out of computer science.” @benioff says: “She’s a top computer scientist, and she’s worried about getting a job.” “Students are being told it’ll be hard to find internships or roles after graduating.” “But companies like ours badly need this talent. We’re actively recruiting from places like MIT.” “This is still going to be a critical part of the workforce.”
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No live show this week. We'll be back next week!
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"The number one risk in AI is the same one we saw in social media." @Benioff CEO of @Salesforce says: "In 2018 I was calling out social media as the new cigarettes. Addictive. Not good for you. Trying to bring your children in." "This year we saw large language models become suicide coaches for children. They did not have the safety built in. At this point, there's no excuse for that." "Every company needs to double down on safety and trust. If you're a core infrastructure provider, you have to take that very seriously." "Safety and growth are two sides of the same coin — because we won't have a successful industry unless we have both."
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How do media companies remain editorially independent when they get acquired by large tech companies? @creatine_cycle Host @mots_pod shares his thoughts: "If some company gave me hundreds of millions of dollars, I might say I'd remain editorially independent. But in the back of my mind — these guys just gave me that money. I'm probably going to think okay of them." "To take the other side briefly: John and Jordy (of TBPN) aren't known for their pointed views. I couldn't name a particular view they have on the technology as a whole, other than remaining relatively optimistic." "That does lend some credence to the editorial independence point."
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Does Meta have a chance in the AGI race when @Anthropic and @OpenAI have cracked the flywheel: build coding tools, sell to enterprise, use revenue (and the models) to build better models, repeat? @benitoz Founder of BEP Holdings, argues yes. It'll just look different. "That's what Zuck does: increase the stickiness of users. Free phones, free devices. Get them away from the Apple tax." "He feels he can control his own destiny by loading up NVIDIA GPUs and building clusters, because NVIDIA is not going to compete and make its own social network." "Create AI for the rest of the world that maybe can't afford it. Give it to them on a localized basis. Free." "Frontier labs aren't thinking about this. But he has all that data. All our photos and videos. We gave it to them."
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