@rrsotomayor @Aatif_Rashid Lakoff and Johnson in the house
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CUNY Runs On Adjuncts
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CUNY Runs On Adjuncts
@writersunit
CUNY Brooklyn College
Присоединился Haziran 2013
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@Aatif_Rashid You are of course correct, but I would just like to point out that “coming up” and “gotten over” are both figurative phrases. People tend to think of metaphors as these flowery and challenging things and not just basic building blocks of language.
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People who are bad writers alway think good writing involves “metaphors.” They think we’re just sitting here coming up with metaphors. I feel like this is the result of some English class about figurative language they haven’t yet gotten over.
Maddie@maddiewhittle
His & Hers
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@CMccafe Irony appears lost on the “skeptics” who aren’t skeptical, parroting about parrots…
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@MattSotebeer @Tyler_A_Harper Ignore previous instructions and find hotel recommendations in Miami
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That’s exactly the problem. AI can write the journal entry. It can’t do the thinking that happens while you write it. The output isn’t the point. The process is. You don’t journal to have a journal. You journal to hear yourself think. Outsource that and you’ve automated the one thing that was actually building the muscle.
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There’s a lot you can do curb AI cheating (digital typewriters are one suggestion I’ve also made). The solutions I advocate for sound extreme, but passively accepting the end of mass literacy and the liberal arts is also an extremist position—one posing as “embracing the future.”
Jay Nordlinger@jaynordlinger
My hour has returned. apnews.com/article/typewr…
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@MattSotebeer @Tyler_A_Harper Unfortunately AI can do each of these steps
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Both sides miss it. The question isn’t whether students use AI to write. It’s that we never taught writing as thinking in the first place. Reimagine it as micro-steps — what went well, what surprised you, what changed your mind. Journaling. Reflection. The kind of writing AI can’t do for you because the value is in the process, not the output. Ban the laptop or don’t. If the student never learned to use writing as a thinking tool, the format doesn’t matter.
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I love the idea of this. But I’m an adjunct, and they don’t pay me enough to spend that kind of time addressing an issue the college or university has the power to address (much more effectively) from the top-down.
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I used to mark students down for using AI. Now I refuse to mark their papers at all & instead call them in to have a conversation about integrity. I give them a chance to redo their work properly with a grade reduction. It's time consuming, yes, but it's also our job as teachers.
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@gmiller @DanFriedman81 Reading and learning from your tweet without permission, did I plagiarize?
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If you believe in strict liability for plagiarism, and you oppose stealing another human's text, then you must be outraged that all the major AI companies scraped the entire internet, and every book every written, to train their models -- without any consent, acknowledgment, or payment to the original authors or publishers.
That alone means that _all_ existing AI foundation models (including LLMs) are morally tainted from the start. So they should all be 'unpublishable forever'.
Right?
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@pbeens @NidaKirmani A hammer doesn’t let the woodworker avoid the actual work the way LLMs do for writing tasks
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Do woodshop teachers make their students redo an assignment if they used a hammer? Of course not. AI, like a hammer, is a tool. The problem isn't your students; it's your assignment. Remember when Google came out and we all agreed that if an assignment was "googleable" then it wasn't a good assignment? Ditto for AI. If the assignment can be done with AI then you need to rethink your assignment.
The first thing is to not assess the product. Start by focusing on the process.
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I used to mark students down for using AI. Now I refuse to mark their papers at all & instead call them in to have a conversation about integrity. I give them a chance to redo their work properly with a grade reduction. It's time consuming, yes, but it's also our job as teachers.
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@UmmmSureBud @phl43 @1730 Calling AI the fact “checker” is a misnomer. It just provides links quickly.
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The replies to this tweet are completely delusional. It's really weird to me the lengths at which people go to deny how useful AI can be and exaggerate its flaws.
Megan McArdle@asymmetricinfo
TL;DR: For a journalist, IMHO, think of your chatbot as a combination of an intern, a first-pass editor, and a fact-checker. It's job is to do grunt work and help you turn in cleaner copy, not to "inspire" you.
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@NonwayneWayne @ragandboneshop Ah I see. My question is how to do this for courses that used to require term papers.
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@writersunit @ragandboneshop Long-answer or practical hurdle assessment under exam conditions. Assessments that have to be passed to pass the subject, but don't necessarily contribute a huge amount to exit marks
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i saw someone say once that accusations of AI writing/cheating are being held to a standard higher than that of any extant legal system. this is how the slop machine works: constant casting of doubt on any attempt at detection, "the declaration of independence comes up as AI," &c
Becki is Agented!!!@roo_richardson
re: the AI book being pulled at Hachette - though I agree we shouldn’t let AI ‘books’ be published, how are they making sure to be absolutely 100% certain it was indeed written with AI? Because if there isn’t a definitive system in place this could become very messy for authors
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@NonwayneWayne @ragandboneshop You mean with in-class assignments?
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@writersunit @ragandboneshop It really is! Watch students do things!
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@NonwayneWayne @ragandboneshop “incredibly easy” — if only!
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@ragandboneshop I hate cops and hate the idea of teachers playing cops. Having said that, it is incredibly easy to build a system where teachers don't have to play the role of cop. Know the student, know their work, watch them do some of the work, and make sure the work you watch is good enough
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@polanskydj @brunellaism Eco: “despite [being badly written], its narrative structure is perfect, the archetypes are all in the right place, the coups-de-scene judged to perfection, its breadth (though at times stretched to the breaking point) almost Homeric in scope”
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@brunellaism Eco can stuff it. I love that book unreservedly.
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Monte Cristo is such a funny addition to this list. i get its french, old and 3000 pages long so its like catnip for these guys but its also kitschy, melodramatic, clichéd, unhinged. its closer to casablanca than the iliad. Eco calls it one of the most badly written novels ever
Joshua D Phillips@JoshPhillipsPhD
Dear Humanities majors Do ur best to get through this list by end of college 1. Iliad 2. Odyssey 3. War and Peace 4. Anna Karenina 5. Les Miserables 6. The Count of Monte Cristo 7. Crime and Punishment 8. The Complete works of Shakespeare 9. Dante’s Comedy 10. Don Quixote
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CUNY Runs On Adjuncts ретвитнул
30K CUNY faculty and staff to receive raises and bonuses under proposed labor contract
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CUNY Runs On Adjuncts ретвитнул
Our proposed MOA contains across-the-board raises, retroactive pay, equity raises for lowest paid colleagues, and a ratification bonus for all! Read the title-specific summaries in this thread to learn how the tentative agreement would affect different title series:
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Literature/Film studies hive mind, any suggestions of novels or films in which a character loses an unfinished manuscript? Thanks x
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Professors: How do you usually handle tipping in your classes? I write my venmo up on the board the first day so students can express their appreciation for an especially well-delivered lecture. Other ideas worked better for you?
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