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7 golfers are tied for the lead (-3) at the PGA Championship
How does the sportsbook payout 1st Round Leader winners at @BetMGM?
Dead Heat Rules
▪️ Divide odds by the number of winners
▪️ Example: Scottie Scheffler was +1600 to be 1st Round Leader
▪️ +1600 / 7 = ~ +229 odds
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The Massachusetts Gaming Commission unanimously approves a new regulation which will require sports betting operators to notify users who are being limited, why they are being limited, and what markets they are limited in.
It's the first ever regulation regarding limiting.
RLinnehanSR@RLinnehanSR
Massachusetts Gaming Commission discussing options for new regulations for sports betting customers who are limited. 1. Requiring operators to provide notice to users that they are limited 2. Provide timely notice, reason why limit is in place, and what markets they are limited
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Can’t even be in a K hole in the bookies anymore without someone taking a picture!
Games gone
Dan Frankcom@DFrankcom
Just popped in to the bookies to pick up the cash and this fella has been like this for at least 5 minutes… What a state 🤣
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@AFrantzie @jesselearmonth Can any lawyers out there explain how the relevance of section 230 to this?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_2…
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Will prob get called a poor for tweeting this amount of money but idc it's the principle - in August I was listening to a @BettingStartups pod where @jesselearmonth was interviewing @Trent_Hoerr from @Bullrushcomp & they were promoting a $100k guaranteed NFL 'survivor' pool
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@PlusEVAnalytics Yeah idk only people who reached out on here or discord were still alive. Would be shocked if they paid elim entries. Getting conflicting info on if the 3x to live is even entirely true (which is inflated anyway since it includes stake back). Regardless doesn’t make any of right.
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@AFrantzie @Trent_Hoerr You might not know, but did they pay the 3x to all entries or just the ones that are still alive?
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Craziest part of these insane excuses is that they were all true prior to the contest starting. You simply could have cancelled prior to the start rather than pulling the rug halfway through.
Thankfully for the defrauded though, no one is more disappointed than you! @Trent_Hoerr
AF@AFrantzie
Will prob get called a poor for tweeting this amount of money but idc it's the principle - in August I was listening to a @BettingStartups pod where @jesselearmonth was interviewing @Trent_Hoerr from @Bullrushcomp & they were promoting a $100k guaranteed NFL 'survivor' pool
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This is a bonkers ending to a bonkers thread. @Bullrushcomp should be out of business and @Trent_Hoerr belongs in prison
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@jesselearmonth There are several ways they've mishandled or outright committed fraud in this situation, but I'll leave you out of the rest of the discussion as it's not your concern or fault. Last thing I'll say is the T&C that "allowed them to cancel" has no relevance here & will not stand up.
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@FerrisB_86 Lmao damn beat me to it. “It was a very very very tough decision and no one is more disappointed than I” said the man defrauding his customer base and saving himself a measly one hundred thousand dollars
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Now here’s a company that just gets it. Some may see this as a half-ass attempt at making things “right” after screwing over contestants, but you have to consider their third ‘very’ when weighing how tough of a decision it was.
Jesse Learmonth@jesselearmonth
@AFrantzie Heard back from them and they said I can share this. Sounds like all entry fees were returned 3x? That doesnt seem awful, but the situation still sucks all around.
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@jesselearmonth There are several ways they've mishandled or outright committed fraud in this situation, but I'll leave you out of the rest of the discussion as it's not your concern or fault. Last thing I'll say is the T&C that "allowed them to cancel" has no relevance here & will not stand up.
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@jesselearmonth Genuinely appreciate you reaching out & also following up. Will have to agree to disagree on "that doesn't seem awful" part given they returned max ~$7k in credits to contestants rather than the $100k+ guaranteed. Receiving $100 on $1.4k in implied value (on low end) is awful.
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@bronerp4p @BettingStartups @jesselearmonth accounts still exist but just immediately untags from any mentions and blocks/mutes. wouldn't be surprised to see full on deletes in next few days though. real tough look @Trent_Hoerr @Bullrushcomp
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@AFrantzie Do they actually UN tag themselves too? This is some disgusting shit
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@AFrantzie @BettingStartups @jesselearmonth you did a great job laying out this fuckin scam from @Bullrushcomp
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@jesselearmonth Appreciate the message Jesse & appreciate you reaching out to them as well. If you could let me know if you receive a response or if there's a better way I can get in touch with Trent that'd be great. I've tried via here & discord but am being muted/blocked & my comments deleted.
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@AFrantzie Hey, I'm sorry to see this, super frustrating to say the least. I do my best to vet guests, but obvs impossible to project what companies/people might do in the future. I've reached out to BR to see if they can provide add'l context. thx for tuning into the pod nonetheless 🫡
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@AFrantzie @jesselearmonth Got introduced to this contest the exact same way as you. Remember the specific comments in that interview about the guaranteed prize pool and how much overlay opportunity there was. DM me if you don’t mind please. Want to see what response you’ve gotten
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Guarantee has to mean Guarantee in gambling. Should be the kiss of death for this operator imo.
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Will prob get called a poor for tweeting this amount of money but idc it's the principle - in August I was listening to a @BettingStartups pod where @jesselearmonth was interviewing @Trent_Hoerr from @Bullrushcomp & they were promoting a $100k guaranteed NFL 'survivor' pool
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@goldenpants013 100% and thanks for amplifying GP much appreciated. Had the stink of a scam from the start but was amplified by enough trusted people and clear rules/terms were spelled out via many avenues so joined and hoped for the best. CEO even shilled it on LinkedIn for christ sakes lol
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