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@kilianhekhuis @banmeagain7 @TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler Let me help you out. Demand outstrips supply, and is projected to keep doing that...for decades.

@BustinChops7 @banmeagain7 @TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler Ok, so one can't have an opinion about what "the market will decide"?

Phil says this is stupid because radiators are a "solved problem" but then stops short of extrapolating what that means. The radiator surface area they specify is about the right size for the math to check out. You can make pretty much any physics "work" if you scale the right values on paper. The feasibility isn't about physics, its about economics. For a moderately sized 100MW "data center" you'd need a fleet of close to 700 satellites to match its earthly alternative. That's an ISS's worth (the most expensive single structure ever built by humanity) of radiators, 700 times over, for a single "data center". To put that into perspective that's about 73,000 m² or roughly 14 football fields worth of surface area The costs to build such a fleet is insane compared to the the earthly alternatives we have yet to exploit and it assumes a lot of things that might not continue to hold true - like wattage per op staying constant. It’s like someone looking at room-sized computers in the 50s and extrapolating that we are going to have a land crisis and starts imagining large floating sea platforms to host our computing future

@banmeagain7 @TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis If they have years of delays on earth projects, and they know just how expensive energy is going to get in the next 10-20 years, I don't see the problem of addressing the demand with orbiting options. It's weird that you do. The market will decide.

@BustinChops7 @TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis The difference is that "putting a satellite for internet access" was already done before and it make sense on paper. The only reason nobody bothered with putting "thousands" of them previously is because of cost-benefit analysis. Government contracts changed this calculation

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@TwitCensors @TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis You should ask AI.

@BustinChops7 @TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis This is a simple question what major cost factor becomes cheaper when in space? Aside for land every single component and process is more expensive when building for space .. every one You could literally build in Antarctica cheaper

@TwitCensors @TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis It's not crazy when they're planning ten years ahead.

@BustinChops7 @TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis Wtf has that got to do with tbe exponential cost of putting it in space Ai suggests is more than 1000 times more expensive. No permit process is going approach that no matter how hard you try . The launch cost could be ZERO and you are still looking at multiples higher

@TwitCensors @TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis If there's no use, why does demand outstrip supply? And why is the number of delayed land projects growing rapidly?

@TBestig @BustinChops7 @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis There is no use case at all Unlike starlink.. which they love to reference

@TwitCensors @TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis As the article says, US production capacity falls very short of demand. The cheapness of solar doesn't change that fact.

@BustinChops7 @TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis Ground solar is still cheaper They can build their own power plant and still come out way ahead

@DschlopesIsBack Oh, wow, you don't get it has nothing to do with the force, and everything to do with the behaviour? Wow.

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@TBestig No, you can't read or comprehend. That quote is talking about the ISS, not earth based data-centres. You dumb fuck.

@TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis Nobody, anywhere is saying it's cheaper. I think you have mental issues.

@BustinChops7 @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis Are you fucking illiterate? This is about WHETHER IT IS CHEAPER TO BUILD DATA CENTERS IN SPACE THAN ON THE GROUND. IT IS NOT. “Erm ackshually nuclear power is cheaper than solar panels” has jack shit to do with this discussion, because WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SPACE VERSUS GROUND

@TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis What? The fact that they can't build them on the ground quick enough is kinda relevant. You "Just build them on the ground. Look, anywhere!" Them: "We can't, at least not to the level of demand." You: "But, just do it!" Them: "Um..."

@BustinChops7 @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis “They laughed at Galileo, but they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.” VERY SIMPLE QUESTION NOBODY HAS YET ANSWERED: WHAT IS THE ADVANTAGE OF PUTTING DATA CENTERS IN SPACE THAT CANNOT BE OBTAINED BUILDING THEM ON THE GROUND? Your first attempt was “grid capacity”. That was false.

@TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis

@BustinChops7 @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis I’m not saying it is? Are you actually reading what I’m saying or are you just doing word association? I am saying IT IS CHEAPER TO BUILD SOLAR ON THE GROUND THAN TO BUILD SOLAR IN SPACE, SO YOU DO NOT GO TO SPACE TO AVOID GRID CAPACITY PROBLEMS

@TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis That exact same thing was said -for years- about his plan to put thousands of satellites in space for internet access.

@BustinChops7 @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis I’m not proposing a solution. I don’t give a shit about AI data centers, it’s not my problem. I’m just explaining why putting them in space is laughable and an obvious attempt to pump up valuation with bullshit promises. I am DESCRIBING the fact that almost anything is cheaper

@TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis Sorry, to be clear, solar isn't the solution.

@BustinChops7 @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis I didn’t say they were. Where did you get the idea that I did?

@TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis What's your solution? Just build them anywhere, despite local concerns?

@BustinChops7 @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis Those delays exist because they are cheaper to deal with than building data centers in places with no such regulatory delays, which would in turn be cheaper still than putting the data centers in space.

@TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis The delays are not because of solar panels.

@BustinChops7 @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis If your ground-based data center can’t secure an electricity hookup, you can install solar panels and batteries on the ground. Much cheaper than putting all of that in a rocket and launching it into space.

@TBestig @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis No doubt it's expensive, but the growing backlog of delays doesn't reduce demand.

@BustinChops7 @rikarends @DanFessler @kilianhekhuis The reason data centers on the ground use grid capacity is because it is cheaper and easier than producing all their electricity on-site. There is zero grid capacity in space, they’re using attached solar panels instead, which is more expensive per watt than a power line is.

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