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Desdanovas
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Desdanovas
@CommieInaBox
AntiCapitalist, AntiImperialist, AntiCop, AntiRacist, Apocalyptician | Free Palestine Kill the part of you that cringes, not that part of you that is cringe
เข้าร่วม Eylül 2021
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@ScottBennet0245 @PeppermintSw @mask_bastard I never said socialism, I said communism, but I was being glib, I dont care what you call it, but God commanded you to sell all your possessions and give it to the poor, youre gonna have to tell God why you didnt do that, not me.
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@CommieInaBox @PeppermintSw @mask_bastard Doesn’t sound like socialism either. Your attempts to misrepresent scripture doesn’t work on me. I love how you completely dodged the horrors of socialism to continue pointing your finger.
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@ScottBennet0245 @PeppermintSw @mask_bastard Then why does God let infants be born with congetianl defects? Why did God design our bodies to fail painfully before we die? Cancer? Auto immune? You tell me we were intentionally created, then I say our creator is evil.
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@CommieInaBox @PeppermintSw @mask_bastard You’re really reaching now buddy. Who’s the say the infant sinned? Are there any possible causes of malady aside from sin? Try to be less deceitful.
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@KromerHarry @BeardedPresby @TansuYegen "all who believed" did the thing, doesnt sound very voluntary to me, you must not believe.
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The context is it was voluntary. It was a narrative of what some did. There's another passage where this is more explicit in Acts 5 (see excerpt below): where Ananias sold property but held back part of it, yet claiming he donated it all. He lied about the actual proceeds wanting to appear righteous. Yet the Apostle Peter clearly says: "4 While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control?"
There was no obligation or command for them to sell property and donate all or a portion. It was all voluntary by some wealthy members who sold some of their possessions to help the needy within their church. To turn this into a command for everyone would overturn everything else the Bible says about working, saving, etc. It is ignoring every other clear teaching of scripture. It's known as cherry picking one verse to build a doctrine while ignoring everything else.
Acts 5
But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession. 2 And he kept back part of the proceeds, his wife also being aware of it, and brought a certain part and laid it at the apostles’ feet. 3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? 4 While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.”
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@BeardedPresby @KromerHarry @TansuYegen I mean, he literally did, but okay, like I said, youre the one gonna have to explain yourself to your God, not me.
It doesnt really matter, your willingness to do violence against non violent people makes you the monster I believe you to be.
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@CommieInaBox @KromerHarry @TansuYegen What part of “God never commanded us to do that” arent you getting??
You really are stupid, arent you?
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@ScottBennet0245 @PeppermintSw @mask_bastard How has an infant born with a congenital heart defect sinned?
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I openly condemn sin: murder, jealousy, adultery, theft, deceit, taking the Lord's name in vain, and so on.
Christians are not called to accept the sin but to accept the sinner, because we are all sinners. We are to love others as Jesus loved us. This charge is a humanly impossible one.
If you think the "right Christians" or the "good ones" are those that condone sinful lifestyles as "good" or "acceptable", then you found something other than those who honestly pursue Christ. My approach to a homosexual friend is not to tell him "you're going to hell", but "Jesus loves you as he loves me. We are all sinners. I am here to help you if you want help staying accountable." --This is something many men do regarding a plethora of sins... including men who fall into heterosexual adultery or who fall into the addition of pornography or drugs.
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@ScottBennet0245 @PeppermintSw @mask_bastard Well, I dunno about you but "sell all your possessions and give the proceeds to people who need them" sounds pretty explicit and "all who believed" doesnt sound voluntary, to me.
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Hi Desdanpvas, you made some really good points and I wanted to share my understanding of things. I know I haven’t fulfilled all of God’s commandments. I don’t think anyone has. We have all sinned. The purpose of following Jesus is not to set a legalistic “I must obey every commandment” but to be born again. It’s in knowing that Jesus (God in human form) chose to suffer the punishments we deserve, while He Himself is perfect and did not sin.
Socialism is an ideology of greed. It believes “we deserve what you have”. It demands. The opposite of charity. It facilitates oppressive regimes that has family members inform on each other to the government for (not following the state’s commandments). Are you getting the picture? The rich man went away sad because of Jesus’ parable in that he would have to sell his possessions. The man isn’t saved or condemned by collectivism but because of his personal actions. Jesus knows you and me. He personally chose to die for you and me. Cast away the ideology of “the People are God”. God’s grace isn’t found in a socioeconomic policy of socialism or capitalism. He’s much greater than that.
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@BeardedPresby @KromerHarry @TansuYegen You said the context was about taking care of people in your church. Okay, so have you sold all your possessions and given the proceeds to people in your church who need help? Listen man, youre the one not doing as your God commands you lol
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@CommieInaBox @KromerHarry @TansuYegen Context matters. Thats why you cant understand scripture. God never commanded us to sell everything. What part of that dont you get?
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@_jonbowlin Which part of a free market economy is when the president signs an executive order demanding private telecommunications companies what they have to broadcast and when?
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@Taylor_A_Eaton Why did God design us to get cancer and auto immune disease? Why did God intentionally give us bodies that attack and kill themselves?
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@DSPetolicchio Religion is stupid and it makes you stupid.
You can't change my mind.
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@KromerHarry @BeardedPresby @TansuYegen So did you sell all your possessions and give to the needy people in your church? It doesnt matter what "context" you think its required, you're still not doing it lol
Do you think Jesus would be a Capitalist? Or a Republican? lol
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I've read that verse but in context of it's own passage and also of the rest of scripture, it is is no way commanding socialism or communism as the ideal economic system. Some points to consider:
1) Acts 2:44-45 is about christians within the church supporting other needy christians in their church. I'm not aware of any church that let's their needy widows or orphans starve.
2) it was members voluntary giving of one's own wealth to help needy believers, not unbelievers. No one was forced to sell their possessions and redistribute through government taxation (the definition of socialism and communism)
3) God clearly commands "anyone who does not work should not eat"
2 thess 3:10-12
10 For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat. 11 For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies. 12 Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread.
4) a lot of poverty is the result of not desiring to improve oneself through work, education, learning a trade, marrying a spouse (2 are better than one), -- alcoholism and drugs a contributing factor.
5) It's difficult to help those who refuse to take steps to positively improve their lives and God established a world with real consequences for sin. We all have limited resources. We should be judicious in how we use our excess wealth to help the truly needy, not waste it on those who continue a lifestyle of destruction and profligacy.
Factor in all these biblical principles when helping others in your local church and community.
Socialism is evil because it is forcibly confiscating the property earned by some to give to others who did not earn it. Stealing is one of the sins of the 10 commandments. Socialists conveniently ignore that sin in their destructive tendency to make everyone equal.
What Does the Bible Say about Private Property? share.google/ZPsObqaZV6InOW…
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@BeardedPresby @TansuYegen I gave you the scripture with the command. You ignoring it is the problem.
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@CommieInaBox @TansuYegen God never commanded us to do that. I dont know how many times i have to explain that to you so you understand it.
You could teach a brick wall a few things about being hard headed.
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@russianspybot @InsaneCope I dont care what people look like. What the fuck are you talking about? lol
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@BeardedPresby @TansuYegen Your God commanded you to sell all your pocessions and give it to people in need, you'll have to explain to him why you ignored that, not me. Not my problem if you disobey your God, is it?
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@CommieInaBox @TansuYegen I do follow my religion, but you’re too stupid to understand what its saying.
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@BeardedPresby @AiG Well, the fact that you are willing to do violence to me but I'm not willing to do violence to you tells me everything I believe about Christians and their God is true.
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@BeardedPresby @AiG Okay. Well, the fact that you choose violence over explaination kind of proves to me that you and your God are evil. I would never choose violence, ever.
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@CommieInaBox @AiG He is your enemy. You’re of the devil, and God will pour His judgment out on those who hate Him.
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@BeardedPresby @TansuYegen lol you dont even follow your own religion but think you have the right to demand other people do? Fucking pathetic.
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@CommieInaBox @TansuYegen Good thing i didnt ask you then.
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@BeardedPresby @AiG Why cant you answer my questions? If God is real, at this point, I would view them as my enemy.
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@BeardedPresby @TansuYegen "selling all their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all"
Thats pretty explicit if you ask me.
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@CommieInaBox @TansuYegen That was never God’s command.
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