@Verratus_Speaks @sleepy_devo @ChibiReviews buddy I know it's hard to believe me but so, so many of the blue pushers do not hate you
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DeusWombat
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If there's one thing this situation proves is that suicidal empathy is a real thing
Anyone in a real scenario like this. Would almost certainly press Red
Jack@depression2019
It is actually disturbing how dumb the average person is Red gives you a 100% chance of living, you literally get nothing beneficial out of choosing blue
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@cloud__alter I don't trust the blue people to actually press blue. Virtue signalling
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Everyone presses blue = Everyone survives
Everyone presses red = Everyone survives
Most people press blue = Everyone survives
Most people press red = Red survives, but straight up all the blues get killed
Red is beneficial to only you, you don't even save anyone by choosing it
MrBeast@MrBeast
Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@firstphas3 @ACMEngineer @FrogeLole @scarlettscarlia I would in this thought experiment. I wouldn't outside of it because I wouldn't be in an all or nothing game and could safely extend my altruism throughout my whole life
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@DeusWombat @ACMEngineer @FrogeLole @scarlettscarlia why don’t you do that now? nothing is stopping you.
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Red pushers cannot fathom taking individual risk for collective good
Jack@depression2019
It is actually disturbing how dumb the average person is Red gives you a 100% chance of living, you literally get nothing beneficial out of choosing blue
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@ACMEngineer @firstphas3 @FrogeLole @scarlettscarlia Would you risk your life for those who are at risk through no fault or failing of their own?
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@DeusWombat @firstphas3 @FrogeLole @scarlettscarlia I wont risk my life trying to save dumb people who put their life on risk.
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@ACMEngineer @firstphas3 @FrogeLole @scarlettscarlia It means that innocent people who never made a choice will be placed in blue and that the only way to save these people is to vote blue. So, of course, I'm voting blue.
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@DeusWombat @firstphas3 @FrogeLole @scarlettscarlia You cant count the unintentional votes because it means nothing.
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@Thy_Planet @TheExCount @doxntme I'd still be voting blue because I value altruism over cynicism, and I'm aware that people are not as terrible as you think they are.
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@DeusWombat @TheExCount @doxntme You missed the point... Random pushers end up 50/50 so they can be ommited. The world population is greatly outnumbered by low iq self serving people who will push red. This greatly increases odds of you simply dying. This makes you suicidal if you decide to gamble your life.
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What is it with red button pushers rewriting the question, like you're presenting an entirely different scenario
Rock Solid@ShitpostRock2
Dumbest fucking hypothetical ever posted
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@firstphas3 @ACMEngineer @FrogeLole @scarlettscarlia Yes, lol. I would risk my life to save the people who unintentionally and inadvertently had their lives put to risk.
I guess its just me being crazy to you but it's a pretty simple decision for me.
I don't envy you
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@DeusWombat @ACMEngineer @FrogeLole @scarlettscarlia “there’s people who don’t know what they’re doing when they press the buttons so you should press the button that might kill you”
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@Sugzza @Silver_Maggie64 @Mccoy_Labadsy potentially losing 49% of the population isnt a good outcome lol
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@DeusWombat @Silver_Maggie64 @Mccoy_Labadsy The best possible outcome requires risking billions of lives, and isn't guaranteed.
Any good outcome from red requires no such risk.
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@DavidV37552056 @Mccoy_Labadsy @WorldDomStudios You are dodging the question by altering the scenario lmao
what an asshole
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@Mccoy_Labadsy @WorldDomStudios Don’t try to dodge the question. The choice can be anonymous but nothing in the hypothetical said that you can’t talk to family and friend before they make the choice. The question is whether you ask you kids, family and friends to gamble with their life by picking blue
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A person with a high enough IQ would realise society in general operates on community and cooperation. Kids,kind people, People who believe in goodwill and the people with "low IQ" would all probably choose blue, choosing red is strategically leaving them to die.
Mark Elevate@mark_elevate
@rojalita25 @FondOfBeetles Blue button doesn't put the group first. It's an IQ test and you're failing it. There is no group benefit to pressing blue. If there were an outsized reward for everyone if blue won, that would be different. But it's not how the question is written.
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@ACMEngineer @suited_summoner Well hey you could have just admitted it from the start buddy
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@suited_summoner There will always be someone who picks Blue.
Exactly why I vote for red.
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“Everyone.” Children. The elderly. The otherwise incompetent. Those who press red are selfish. Rational, yes, but selfish. In an ideal world, where everyone was rational, everyone would indeed pick Red. But that’s never gonna happen. There will always be someone who picks Blue.
MrBeast@MrBeast
Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@MarcyBelowFloor I wouldn't. I'd love to be able to selectively take pain but to absolutely take it all effectively removes pain as a consequence, good or bad.
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You are given a device that would instantly take the pain of every human on earth and free them of it. In exchange, you will experince all human pain from past , present and future in a single second and remember it as your own. You cannot die until you are 100. Use it?
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@Silver_Maggie64 @Mccoy_Labadsy "We must reach the best outcome at all costs" is also not a part of the hypothetical.
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@ACMEngineer @firstphas3 @FrogeLole @scarlettscarlia can't vote sincerely. That describes them as capable of taking the action of voting without full understanding of what the vote is. Different from being literally unable to vote
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@ACMEngineer @scarlettscarlia or the senile, or the mentally handicapped
The thought experiment is clear with its use of "everyone". You are adding new parameters that change the scenario. Its obvious, disingenuous and embarrassing.
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@DeusWombat @scarlettscarlia Babies only smash button, they are not capable to cast a vote.
Artifical scenario denied.
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@Thy_Planet @TheExCount @doxntme They're always relevant to the problem, which is that there are innocent blue voters. The only way to save those innocents is to vote blue, an even greater imperative now that you've pointed out that we need to offset randomized red votes as well
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@DeusWombat @TheExCount @doxntme If they didn't chose then you have to also assume an equal amount will press red so you can take them out of equation as it will be 50/50.
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@ACMEngineer @firstphas3 @FrogeLole @scarlettscarlia *like* babies, they are just one of many subsets of humanity that can't vote sincerely.
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@DeusWombat @firstphas3 @FrogeLole @scarlettscarlia You think babies can vote? How cute.
All they do is smash buttons.
Irrelevant.
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@ACMEngineer @scarlettscarlia Again, "everyone" means babies. Or the senile, or the mentally handicapped etc etc. There will always be a significant number of unintentional blue voters
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@DeusWombat @scarlettscarlia unintentional blue voters?
no such a thing.
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@ACMEngineer @firstphas3 @FrogeLole @scarlettscarlia Sorry but no. "Everyone has to vote" means that there will always be millions of non culpable blue voters like babies. The scenario is asking if you are willing to risk your life as the only way to save these people
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@DeusWombat @firstphas3 @FrogeLole @scarlettscarlia and that blue voters think with emotions, not facts.
bridge is already built for blue button pushers.
nope they want to feel special.
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@Yatoplayz you can generously assume that they do not realize that there will be millions if not billions of unintentional blue voters
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Am I high why are people saying red when picking blue saves everyone
MrBeast@MrBeast
Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@ACMEngineer @scarlettscarlia The original post makes it pretty clear that there will be unintentional blue voters, this bridge analogy doesn't apply.
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@scarlettscarlia Just use the fucking bridge.
Why make it harder for yourself.
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ACME@ACMEngineer
@notsoErudite Blue button pushers wont use the bridge that was built for everyone.
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