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Osarseph 𓀲 𓁟

Osarseph 𓀲 𓁟

@Osarseph0

Eclectic Catholic into Philosophy, History, Perennial Wisdom and Religion. Sojourner in Egypt. Twice-Born. Augustinian.

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Osarseph 𓀲 𓁟
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John of St. Thomas has cured me of any Sede temptations. A man who rejects a universally and peacefully accepted Pope is a schismatic / heretic (pic 1). Just as a heretical Bishop or Priest retains power and jurisdiction and remains in the Church, so it is with a heretical Pope, who may have ceased to be Pope, Christian and member of Christ quoad se, but continues to be quoad nos until juridically deposed by the Church (pics 2-3). Finally, the 10th canon of the 8th Ecumenical Council excommunicates those, laymen included, who separate themselves from their Patriarch prior to a canonical investigation by a synod (pic 4). The result? Pope Leo is Pope, even if suspect of heresy, but no one has rebuked or canonically warned him, and the Church hasn’t deposed him, but we can be infallibly certain he is the true Pope as it concerns us, and to separate from him and go to a non-una cum Mass is schismatic and heretical as far as I’m concerned. Does this mean that the post-Conciliar Popes are devoid of all suspicion and vindicated in every degree? No. But prudence dictates we not separate ourselves until the Church has spoken. We could be in a Honorius situation. Many people, including St. Maximus, defended him until the anathema was announced. This is how I will now ride the crisis forward. I feel peace.
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@forsman_josh @Real_Rye_Bread The same St. Cyprian held a council where he said none of them makes himself a bishop of bishops, and corresponded with Bishops who acted like Pope Stephen was an utter madman
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Joshua 🍁
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@Real_Rye_Bread Cyprian “the chair of Peter is one and the dignity of the episcopate is one” of Carthage
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Peter John Olivi on the Antichrist and the Ecclesiastical Deception: “The pseudochristians and pseudoprophets will cause the cupidity and carnality or earthly glory of the secular beast to be adored by all, and will offer great signs to this end: First, of its ecclesiastical authority, contradiction of which will seem to be disobedience, contumacy and schismatic rebellion; second, of the universal opinion of all its masters and doctors and of the whole multitude or common opinion of all, contradiction of which will seem foolish, insane, and even heretical; third, of arguments and falsely twisted scriptures, as well as of some superficial, ancient and multiform religion confirmed and solemnized through long succession from antiquity. Thus with these signs they will seem to make the fire of divine wrath descend on those who contradict them, . . . and will decree that whoever does not obey should be anathematized, ejected from the synagogue, and, if necessary, turned over to the secular arm of the former beast. They will make the image of the the beast - that is, the pseudopope raised up by the king of the first beast - adored in such a way that he is believed in more than Christ and his gospel and honored as if he were the god of this world. sourcebooks.fordham.edu/source/olivi.a…
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@Graham1719780 I think it has plausibility, but so does the idea (which is very well-attested in Patristic sources) that the Antichrist is the 'Messiah' that the apostate Jews are waiting for, who will rebuild the Temple, etc.
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Graham
Graham@Graham1719780·
@Osarseph0 Do you hold with Olivi that the Antichrist will be a Pope?
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Osarseph 𓀲 𓁟 รีทวีตแล้ว
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''When Francis of Assisi kisses festering wounds and does not even kill the bugs that bite him, but leaves his body to them as a hospitable home, these acts (if seen from the outside) could be signs of perverted instincts and of a perverted valuation. But that is not actually the case. It is not a lack of nausea or a delight in the pus which makes St. Francis act this way. He has overcome his nausea through a deeper feeling of life and vigor! This attitude is completely different from that of recent modern realism in art and literature, the exposure of social misery, the description of little people, the wallowing in the morbid - a typical ressentiment phenomenon. Those people saw something bug-like in everything that lives, whereas Francis sees the holiness of ''life'' even in bug.'' - Max Scheler, *Ressentiment*
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Pymander's ghost@pymandersghost

The Bible is a book that is laced with a fundamental thread of resentment. This only became more apparent to me over time, with an increasing, and then eventually eclipsing, familiarity with classical antiquity. In this process-- also his-- I see that Nietzsche was right.

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Angelo of Clareno, Spiritual Franciscan, writing in the 14th century to Pope John XII, denies that he is a Sedevacantist: "I would never doubt the existence of papal authority, even if angels and apostles supported by miracles claimed otherwise. The same holds true for such declarations as that Boniface [VIII] was not the true pope, or that authority has long since left the Church and resided in us until the Church could be reformed, or that we and those like us were true priests, or that priests ordained by papal and episcopal authority were not truly ordained, or that the Eastern Church is better than the Western. I have never been so light-headed, foolish, or stupid as to allow myself to hear such things from anyone"
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Careful eyes will notice that Dominicans stand behind the Antichrist and the Devil whispering into his ear in the Orvieto Cathedral's 1501 "Fresco of the Deeds of the Antichrist" by Luca Signorelli
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Osarseph 𓀲 𓁟@Osarseph0·
@Catholic8941 @b0rtcask1 Ah, a kindred spirit. I am not as deep into this stuff as you are, but I had just been planning recently to delve deeper into the Hermetic corpus again.
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Gopala the Elephant
Gopala the Elephant@b0rtcask1·
Not going to open the can of worms of migration but many Catholics stick with it due to a sunk cost fallacy. If you don't like contemporary Catholicism, just dump it. You have no idea how easy it is. Little of the stuff happening in the Church at this point is supernatural.
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Strict Augustinian
Strict Augustinian@Catholic8941·
@Osarseph0 @b0rtcask1 I keep the basic Catholic/Biblical worldview (particularly fallen nature of humanity, sacraments, decalogue, original sin, tendency towards evil etc.) and drastically extend my spiritual life with esoteric metaphysics. I ditched the Court of Rome over 10 years ago.
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Konrad von Marburg
Konrad von Marburg@JustinusRomanus·
They're getting creative with the slander, I'll give them that.
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Yeah for me it's mostly a matter of history, but the sad part about if I were ever have to go East again (I was a catechumen for a year), is that I'd lose out on so much of the Western particularities. The Western tradition has so much strangeness and uniqueness that the East seems to lack
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Gopala the Elephant
Gopala the Elephant@b0rtcask1·
@Osarseph0 I recommend people go to Orthodoxy if they absolutely have to be in a historic church. Otherwise if you can be content with it Pastor Bob's strip mall church with The Chosen Pizza Night is probably fine. Shout out to Anglicans too I mess with them.
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Osarseph 𓀲 𓁟@Osarseph0·
@Newlearn35 @ThirdDoclean St. Thomas says that one can consent to *betrothal* at the age of 7, but marriage was canonical after 12 for girls and 14 for boys. I never said this was a problem in theory, either.
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🇦🇱 Dukagjini 🇦🇱
🇦🇱 Dukagjini 🇦🇱@ThirdDoclean·
In the Catholic Church a 14 year old can get married
Osarseph 𓀲 𓁟@Osarseph0

It can clearly be seen in interactions with pagans that Logos has no place in their thought. They have thus even abandoned the original Enlightenment project that originally tried to brush aside Christendom for some sort of irrational and atavistic form of paganism. And it’s not even real paganism, which was the result of a lived spiritual experience and traditions stretching hundreds of generations and generations, the worship of ancient deified kings, superstitions, and myths. It’s a reconstructed enterprise, not something organic and real. You can’t revive a dead tradition. The whole worldview of these people is hating Christianity because it’s foreign, or because some heretical sects of Christianity are pro-Israel, or because the Vatican preaches about migrants in a way that is harmful to European interests. Is the faith thus disproven? Did Christ not rise from the dead? Is Christ not the Son of God because He was a Jew? All of this is absolutely foolish. Reason plays no part in it. And it’s no surprise given how they worship Friedrich Nietzsche. Myths about Zeus raping Ganymede or Egyptian creator gods masturbating reality into existence are not going to revitalize the Western spirit. The traditions are dead, nigh incomprehensible to modern minds, and really have no leg to stand on when compared to the Christian intellectual tradition.

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This is to be compared with other Spiritual Franciscans such as Ubertino of Casale (c. 1259-c. 1330), who held that Pope Boniface VIII's election had been invalid due to unlawful resignation by Pope Celestine V
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Osarseph 𓀲 𓁟@Osarseph0·
@b0rtcask1 Bailing is always an option, but honestly, there is nowhere else really to go for Christians than the Catholic Church.
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Gopala the Elephant
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And your pretending that it is is making you sound bonkers. It's all just politics & guessing. "Davos / the WEF at prayer." Guess what? You can bail. You can literally just do stuff.
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“NOBODY has ever gone “Hey I think the Hindus may be right on this” Speak for yourself.
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Lord Miles@Lordmiles

Whats funny about Hinduism… Everyone has doubts of faith. Atheists, Christians etc. but nobody, and mean NOBODY has ever gone “Hey I think the Hindus may be right on this” Because their monkey blue 20 headed elephant God with poop throwing festival is so laughable. Do you know a single non Indian who has converted to Hinduism? Exactly.

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Osarseph 𓀲 𓁟 รีทวีตแล้ว
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One thing that isn't realised enough is traditional Islam views prophets as theophanies of their version of the Logos, which they call various things: the Breath of God, the Perfect Being, the Reality of Muhammad, the Light of Muhammad, etc. There are traditions where Muhammad says ''I was a prophet when Adam was between water and clay'', or things like that. It's not exactly like a Christian Logos Christology and it isn't very incarnational, it's more akin to a combination of Arianism and Nestorianism where the Muhammadan Light is the mirror of God and the locus of His 99 Names and then this Light is subsequently mirrored again in theophanic human prophets, consummately Islam's founder, Muhammad. You wouldn't know about this tradition, tho, because the Muslim personalities that get the most press online are Salafis somehow connected to Saudi money or some such. 🐯
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Osarseph 𓀲 𓁟@Osarseph0

More enlightened than all of these is the way of the Tishbite. You accept that that abominations are being perpetrated daily in the Temple of God, you are filled with zeal for the LORD of Hosts, but you know that God has preserved a remnant by grace, and you wander around in the wilderness, living a life of holiness, but not associating too much with apostate Israel, even while accepting its Temple and Priesthood as legitimate.

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