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@Evelyn_Club @BradCharles59 @nylawho1 @ThrottlebornYT She would still lose, and probably by a large margin.

@BradCharles59 @nylawho1 @ThrottlebornYT She's a body builder lol.

I’m actually crying this is so fkn funny

@thisreallyis @Big_Mck All said on a platform he owns. There’s something poetic about all of the criticisms on X.

@Big_Mck I personally feel the man is a net negative to society. Worthless is too kind.

This gentleman captures everything you need to know about the latest fabricated trillionaire in town. The most successful capitalist in history doesn't have the capital to continue running the business that’s made him the richest man in the world, so he turns to a Ponzi scheme.

@DavidLcitizen @brivael Enter this into grok and have a nice little read: Was the aid that Elon slashed from usaid righteous? Was money largely used to indirectly aid Democrat interests?

@SScience83 @brivael You’re religious? I guess not a Christian: I read in the bible that Jesus preached kindness and sharing, not slashing US Aid for the poor and making the rich always richer …

Je vais partir du principe que tu es de bonne foi, parce que ton raisonnement est intuitif et que 90% des gens le partagent. Mais il repose sur trois erreurs factuelles, et ça vaut le coup de les regarder calmement. Erreur 1 : la fortune d'Elon n'est pas un tas d'argent. C'est de la propriété d'usines, de fusées et de satellites. "Prendre la moitié de sa tune", concrètement, ça veut dire forcer la vente de la moitié de SpaceX et Tesla. L'argent ne sort pas d'un coffre, il sort des entreprises elles-mêmes, qui passent sous contrôle de fonds étrangers ou d'États. Tu ne redistribues pas du cash, tu démantèles un outil de production. C'est la différence entre récolter des pommes et découper le pommier. Erreur 2 : "ça résout énormément de problèmes dans le monde". Cette expérience a déjà été tentée, en vrai. En 2021, le directeur du Programme Alimentaire Mondial de l'ONU a affirmé que 6 milliards de Musk pouvaient "résoudre la faim dans le monde". Réponse d'Elon : décrivez-moi exactement comment, comptabilité publique à l'appui, et je vends mes actions Tesla immédiatement. Le PAM a publié son plan. Verdict : ce n'était pas "résoudre la faim", c'était nourrir 42 millions de personnes pendant un an. Un an. Puis il faut re-payer, pour toujours. Le PAM avait d'ailleurs levé 8,4 milliards l'année précédente, et la faim était toujours là. Les ONG traitent les symptômes en boucle, jamais les causes, parce que leur financement dépend de l'existence du problème. Erreur 3, la plus importante : tu cherches ce qui sort vraiment les gens de la pauvreté. Bonne nouvelle, on a la réponse, et elle est massive. En 1990, 36% de l'humanité vivait dans l'extrême pauvreté. Aujourd'hui, moins de 9%. Plus d'un milliard de personnes sorties de la misère en 30 ans. Par quoi ? Pas par la charité ni par l'aide internationale (plus de 1 000 milliards versés à l'Afrique en 60 ans pour un résultat à peu près nul). Par l'ouverture des marchés, l'industrialisation, le commerce. La Chine seule a sorti 800 millions de personnes de la pauvreté en abandonnant le collectivisme, pas en taxant ses entrepreneurs. Donc fais le calcul complet. Option A : tu confisques 500 milliards, tu finances quelques années de programmes, l'argent est consommé, et tu as détruit la machine qui produisait les fusées, les voitures électriques et l'internet des zones rurales. Option B : tu laisses le meilleur allocateur de capital de sa génération réinvestir 100% de sa fortune dans des industries qui baissent les coûts pour tout le monde et emploient des centaines de milliers de personnes. L'option A soulage ta morale pendant 18 mois. L'option B sort des populations entières de la pauvreté pour toujours. La pauvreté ne se redistribue pas. Elle se résout par la création. C'est contre-intuitif, c'est frustrant, mais c'est ce que disent 200 ans de données.

@DavidLcitizen @brivael Tell me all about slashing the aid.

@DavidLcitizen @brivael That wasn’t personal. It suggested that you weren’t from America yet are criticizing a place you don’t live in. If you live here, go off then. But yes, you attacked me for being religious and suggested I can’t think rationally. Sad, sad tactic. And yes, you are an angry hater

@SScience83 @brivael Not angry. And btw I lived in the US. And like a lot of Americans, some of whom are my dear friends, I value democracy, freedom and the rule of law. But I thought you said I shouldn’t use personal attacks, that would mean I have zero argument … Funny …

@DavidLcitizen @brivael Stay on topic. He’s innovated and solved global problems. He’s created wreath beyond anyone’s ability. I won’t get pulled into a mud fight that no one will win. Stay objective and honest about the other things he’s accomplished.

@SScience83 @brivael He’s peddling false news and conspiracy theories continuously

@DavidLcitizen @brivael Stay French and angry.

@SScience83 @brivael And even if you are right that he is an exceptional industrialist, he’s still an awful man, supporting the extreme far right, fighting democracy and free speech, being racist and believing in a superior race based on IQ. Nasty person by any account

@DavidLcitizen @brivael I’m religious and proud, btw, but I’m also a registered independent. Your asssulptions only make you look more ignorant.

@SScience83 @brivael You’re not an independent thinker. You’re a religious zealot, and Elon is your idol. Not sure you can talk much rationally

@DavidLcitizen @brivael Objectify, Elon has created more wealth than taken. Objective, he has solved some major problems. You just don’t like rich guys. You haven’t made any cogent points. Nothing you say has stood under scrutiny, so now you’ve resorted to personal attacks- Signs of losing.

@DavidLcitizen @brivael The point of saying he had created FSD at level 2 is to point out that he’s done more than scale. You made that point, I refuted.

@SScience83 @brivael Nothing exceptional there. Google does it. The Chinese also. Don’t really get your point

@DavidLcitizen @brivael He invented a reusable rocket (yes, that’s new). He has provided internet across the globe. He didn’t just scale up Tsla, he revolutionized energy storage and data collection for FSD. He has solved problems that no one else was solved and has spear headed industries.

@SScience83 @brivael Can you read? I said he was good at scaling up! Btw, did he invent the electric car, the rocket, the satellite, IA LLMs, humanoid robots? I want to know. Yes he improved rockets! That’s it

@DavidLcitizen @brivael His cars drive themselves hands free now som in not sure what you’re arguing. He’s done what he said he would do and will likely continue to do it. All of his govt loans were paid off in record time btw.

@SScience83 @brivael BS. He’s just good at scaling up. He didn’t invent anything. Bought Tesla and got rid of the guy who created it. Built spaceX with public subsidies. Bad at self driving cars. Bad at AI. Nasty guy. Anti-democracy. Racist. Peddling fake news. Mean man

@okayestpoet @DigitalSamIAm It’s a cute cartoon for sure, but I’m failing to see how spaceX is chewing up and slitting out the average citizen? If anything, it’s savaged the tax payer billions while creating thousands of new millionaires. Everyone has benefited from this company, directly or indirectly

@DigitalSamIAm How you look

Can we debunk this nonsense? Elon Musk was awarded (note: not given) cost-per-result contracts to perform a service for the US government. The total of those for SpaceX specifically is ~$22B, which includes repaid loans, state tax incentives, etc. The deal was simple: put stuff into LEO at or below a set cost. If SpaceX does it below the set cost, SpaceX keeps the difference. If it doesn’t, the company is responsible for the overrun. End result? SpaceX & Elon lowered the cost of getting 1 kg into LEO by 95-97% vs what NASA was paying previously. And for the record, every other company around at the time was offered the same opportunity to bid on the contract - Musk/SpaceX just took it. The handout narrative implies the taxpayer is the patron and SpaceX the dependent. The cost data shows the opposite: before SpaceX, NASA paid Russia’s Soyuz $80-86M per seat; SpaceX delivered at ~$55 million. SpaceX saved the US taxpayer $300M-$465M each year on that alone (the US sends 12-15 astronauts to space each year) On the lunar lander, NASA estimated SpaceX’s fixed-price bid saved $20B-$30B vs the Boeing-preferred cost-plus approach. So: SpaceX saved the US taxpayer more than the total value of contracts it earned on a single project, PLUS provided the US government with the requested services (put stuff in LEO) at the best possible price.

@AlexJediMasta @meechelleb22 I’m guessing the 4000 newly minted millionaires at spaceX don’t feel exploited, but what do I know?

@meechelleb22 You’re pushing billionaire propaganda. Wake the fuck up. There’s no actual way to gain that much wealth without exploiting people. Look at how unaffordable everything is. There’s a direct correlation between how expensive everything is and how rich people like him are

Why are people mad that Elon is rich? He earned his money, right? If I make $50/hr and my neighbor makes $10/hr.... do i owe my neighbor some of my wealth because I earn more than him? Someone explain this to me like I'm 5, because I don't get it. Envy i can understand. But hating Elon and expecting things from him because he has more money than everyone else? I don't get it.

@jungleasianfc @meechelleb22 I think that’s what starklink, spaceX, Tesla, and neurolink is all about… solving problems for our neighbors and their children.

@meechelleb22 You do owe your neighbor….dont you care about the children?….(am I doing this right?)

@louielogics1984 @N0RINCO @adjustleft @meechelleb22 You’re forgetting the very convenient fact that all spacX employees making wages below union averages just became millionaires because of the company’s inherent value. Ask grok if unions are able to replicate that.

@N0RINCO @adjustleft @meechelleb22 Baker, look closer. While non union wages have increased at a slightly higher pace recently Union jobs still have a 10-20% higher wage in all sectors. Pennies on the dollar flow from my local to the international union—I know the numbers because it’s completely transparent.

@DavidLcitizen @brivael Apparently. You can hate what he stands for and still agree that he’s solving some of the worlds biggest problems. You can also agree the money he’s earned is probably better left in his hands given his track record with it VS the government.

@SScience83 @brivael I hate this guy and everything he stands for.