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@RepGesAuto_NieR Natural law: You aren't allowed to kill other people. Positive law:

補足。 人間が作った法律（実定法）よりも先に、宇宙の秩序や人間の理性に根ざした普遍的な道徳法則（自然法）が存在する、という価値観が欧米では根底にあります。 道徳が法律を明確に上回るんですね、欧米では。まあかなりキリスト教的価値観なんですが。

@OGchan_JP @BuschidoEra @tamamo_fgo Terms of service are not laws. The only thing breaking terms of service can really do is get your account banned... but if the game is EOS then your account is already deleted.

@BuschidoEra @tamamo_fgo アプリの利用規約において、アプリの使用手段に関する制限について同意していたはずの利用規約に違反しています スクエニは対策済みです

海外勢の著作権の甘さは大昔から何度も言われてるけど普通にサ終したゲームのサーバーを勝手にこじ開けて勝手にプレイしてるなんて何十年も前からあいつらやってるのは本当にそう

That sounds like a miserable way to go through life, constantly worrying if other people paid more or less than you do. Would a Japanese customer feel bad if a store owner gave their friend free food 'on the house' or is just anime, manga, and video games that get this special rule?

日本人には「他人がタダで使っているのに自分がお金払っているのは損をしている気持ちになる」という人が大変多く、企業が海賊版を黙認すると、この企業はタダで遊んでいる人を容認していることになり、お金を払うユーザーとの信頼関係が崩れるのです。サービスひとつだけでなく、顧客との関係損失。

@RepGesAuto_NieR Maybe look at the history of what copyright was meant for instead of what it was turned into? Everything protected by copyright was supposed to be used to enrich civilization and copyright was only a short term monopoly on an idea.

ゲームの「アーカイブ化」、西側が非常にこだわるのはなぜなのだろう？と考察したところ、どうやら彼らはアレクサンドリア図書館の消失が民族的トラウマとなっているフシがある。

A western person might have objects that they cherish, maybe a keepsake of a parent or a grandparent. They might use their things carefully, because being careless will force them to buy new things. Though there is no concept that god will punish you for using metal utensils in a non-stick pan.

@SensOfKnowledge @eYwIhjbuX524629 @pjtqg @azukiglg 成熟した日本人は、例え信仰心が薄い人でも（自身を無宗教だと認識している人でさえ）大切に使った物体にはそれぞれ魂が宿っていると感じることが多いですし、物を粗末に扱えば神々から罰せられると考えます 神道とキリスト教の違いなんでしょうかね… 西洋の人々のことを考える際には重要な情報ですね

企業じゃなくて、「作者に敬意を払え」 が、なんで通じないかなあ。 日本では、著作権は「作者個人」にあるんだよ。 作者を蔑ろにしておいて、その作者の作り出した価値をただで楽しむのって、自分を顧みて恥ずかしくならないの？

@akira4170 It's just another cultural difference probably, so let's change the question to find out. Is it okay for a fan to make multiple accounts on amazon and give many 5 star reviews? Should a fan make 100 youtube accounts to leave 100 likes?

@SensOfKnowledge 貴方が思っている以上に日本人は好きな作品を複数冊買います 貴方の想定では何故良い作品にだけ複数買うファンが少なくなるのですか？ 日本ではお金を落とし市場全体を大きくして経済効果を産むことでより良い作品が生まれてきました 同じ条件なので石油王にでも支援されない限り駄作は当然淘汰される

@kurumizawa_eu @_mAKE_mE_mAD_ That is naive and your country is being destroyed by foreigners that break into vending machines as we speak as. All because of immigration laws created by the same type of people that ruined other countries.

@SensOfKnowledge @_mAKE_mE_mAD_ 法律の成り立ちって国によって異なりますよね。 貴方の国はその誰かが得をする為に法律ができたかもしれないですけど、日本の法律は主に秩序が保たれる為に存在するんですよ。 貴方が日本に干渉しないのなら気にしません。 但し日本のコンテンツを無断で搾取しようとするのなら阻止します。

日本の治安が何故良いのか 外国の治安が何故悪いのか もうこれで答え出た感じあるわ

@supercollider_x @JapanAnon The minimum length for copyright is 70 years (assuming the author dies on the same day they release something). Do you you have all your stuff from 70 years ago? You didn't lose a single thing right?

@JapanAnon the media isn't lost it's copyrighted content controlled by the owners

I'm normally on Japan's side for the majority of its divides with the West, but their ideas on copyright and rigid control of media is where I can't take their side. Anybody who would rather see cultural works become lost media than lose control of them is not my kind of people.

@JapanAnon @nega_antiposi @Franzise2 Spoiler: They aren't.

@nega_antiposi @Franzise2 This, of course, means that whoever writes laws and whoever controls the process of changing laws are the most powerful people in the world. I hope these are good, wise, and trustworthy people.

I have seen some people on the jp side say that if the author wants their work to end then it should end. However I think they are unaware that copyright and patent laws were intended to incentivize creation of new things and build a public body of works. Public domain is a fundamental part of copyright and patent laws. Copyright holders have extended this many times throughout the history of the USA and distorted the purpose of copyright laws. The argument from the jp side is BY FAR the most opposite to the intended purpose of the copyright system. At no point did any reasonable person think a book that was copyrighted for X years should be destroyed in year X-1 so it could make room for a new book but that is what modern right's holders have mutated the law into.

海外のみんな！ 「道徳的に正しい盗み」と言うのは悪手だと思う。道徳の話じゃないんだよ。 そうでは無くて、企業によるその収益化が終わりサービス終了後にもサルベージされて広く公開できる方が、公益的な価値があると考えられていると、きちんと言うことが大切だよ！

@izayoidami @arnar7153 @LUNAR__Melody If the author asks everyone to forget their work are you obligated to forget?

@arnar7153 @LUNAR__Melody 保存や継続利用の利益に関して権利を有してるのは作者サイドでは？ なんでなんの関係もない第三者が勝手に作者サイドの意向を無視してやっていいってなるの?

日本人だけどこれが炎上してる理由があんまり理解できない 言いたいことはわかるよ、でも守るメリットのないルールを守る意味ある？ 自分がプレイしなくても誰かがプレイするんだよ、自分は関与しなくてもプライベートサーバーは作られるんだよ 誰もいない赤信号を渡らずに待つの？

@LUNAR__Melody I wonder if the Japanese people are aware that copyright law got changed by the TPP and it's now the same as the USA. Owners' life+70 years. If following "the law" you could only attempt to preserve these games after about 150 years from now, after everything has turned to dust.

あと守って何になるのかわかんない そりゃ法律と規約は作品を守ってもらってって感じだけどうーん

@RepMikeTurner North Korea is a nuclear state, it's crazier than Iran and it doesn't affect me at all. Gas prices on the other hand...

No one is willing to trade lower gas prices for Iran becoming a nuclear state.

@Gaigous @LIGHTANGEL_EX Which is ironic considering how many isekai are about black company employees working themselves to death.

@LIGHTANGEL_EX They seem to have a unique set of very strong labor laws which have resulted in a totally different corporate culture, it is almost unheard of for a company to fire someone as we understand it, and since people don't have to fear being fired the creators are very highly valued.

There seems to be an interesting cultural difference between The West and Japan with regards to game ownership and unethical business practices such as GAAS.

Seed potatoes? You guys are trying way too hard to push this idea that people playing a game that isn't being sold any more somehow results in the creators having less money to make something else. If someone in Argentina goes to the landfill and picks up a broken chair it won't cause a furniture store in Tibet to go out of business.

海賊版のアレは遵法精神がないとかよりも、先を見据えた行動ができない愚かさを感じた。 種いもを植えずに食べて「次の芋をくれ」とか言う感じ。

これはハンバーガーですがXで言語の壁がなくなった今はハンバーガーから世界中の人間と友達になれるツールになりました。 ですが私はチーズ警察なのでこれを食べる人は逮捕しなくてはなりません。

@syosin_kai No, because the consumer would want as much content to be added before the EOS. Rival businesses would be the ones who want their competitors to EOS as soon as possible but that is already the case.

もし 「サービスが終了したものは企業の損害にならないのでコピーは悪いことではないよね」 という意識が一般化するとですね、 「1円もサービスに金を使わず、早期サービス終了を願い、終了と同時にハックしてただで利用する」 という行為が消費者的に最適解になってしまうんですよね

@depression1203 If you believe in human goodness then you do not need strict laws, because people are good and will do the right thing on their own. On the other hand bad people are often very good at following the letter of the law while breaking the spirit of the law. Politicians for example.

いまの日本、 性善説で生きることに限界を迎えてませんか？

@tmgtmg88 @anchel_michel @DingusTheStrix AI is more widespread than piracy. If piracy is an anthill then AI is Mt Fuji, why pay attention to the anthill instead of Mt Fuji.

@anchel_michel @DingusTheStrix 海賊版と生成AIの問題点はどちらも「著作物の無断使用」「制作者への対価が支払われていない」という点です。海賊版には厳しくAIには寛容という姿勢はダブルスタンダードで、日本が改善すべき姿勢だと思っています。 それとは逆で、海外でAIがNGなのに海賊版には寛容なのは、何か理由があるんですか？

The Japanese are usually pretty based when it comes to culture, but when the concept of copyright is involved, they tend to go to the extreme in favor of the corporation. This is just something the West and Japan will simply not agree on.

Honestly if a creator makes something and they stop selling it the IP rights should just automatically go into the public domain after about 6-12 months and this whole issue wouldn't exist. The idea of owning an abstract 'thing' was already unrealistic so we shouldn't entertain it if they abandon that thing.

とりあえずお前ら、作者や企業に何か還元してますの？ わたくしたち一般客は、商品にちゃんとお金を支払うことで作者や企業に還元しますし感謝も捧げてますわ お前らは無料で違法に楽しんで、一切還元しない せめて楽しんだ分還元してるならともかくそれもない奴は乞食としか言えませんわね役立たず