@johnwalker_1986 problem with 1 is.. does anyone actually saw the wire in that video?
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Stephanus Surya Jaya
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Fifa Technology 👀
Its very clear to everyone with working eyes that:
1. It hits the wire
2. Trajectory of ball changes
3. All Norwegian staff seen it happen
They are hiding behind this ball technology which clearly isnt working properly & even worse, was used to chop off a Croatia goal that we also could not see any evidence of the player touching the ball
Football is unique, its a flowing game, get the technology less involved and make the refs control a game again 🙏
FIFA Media@fifamedia
Before England’s goal in minute 45+2 against Norway, the sensor in the Connected Ball showed no peak in the 'heartbeat of the ball' when in the air, and therefore no evidence that the ball touched the overhead wire and changed the movement of the ball.
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@Gust_2319 @Alonso_GD this is in fact the second time the newly expanded rules has been used for yellow cards wrongly issued because of diving in this tournament.. the first time was Tim Ream in USA vs Paraguay..
if IFAB want to make any statement, they would have make it back then
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@Stephanus_SJ @Alonso_GD Has IFAB made an official statement though? Right now the rules are in fact ambiguous.
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Look I can make the legal case as to why VAR Guidelines do not support revising a yellow against Argentina and turning it into a yellow for Switzerland instead. I can. But the key issue here is I’ve seen Argentineans dive in other matches and get no card or VAR check at all
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@BouafifNour the only reason VAR didn't intervene to give red card here is because the ankle didn't bend..
but surely that looks like two yellow card offense, lol
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Switzerland should've finished this game with two red cards.
I swear, in any other game this gets given as a red, if it wasn't for all the criticism and pressure refs have been getting lately for Argentina games, he would've 100% shown the red.
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@AG_Oladepo @Shephin_Mathew that being said, that was post match, no? not sure if VAR could intervene post match
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VAR widening the definition of “mistaken identity” and making it about “mistaken offence”. The yellow can be overturned, but a new offence of simulation can’t be registered.
That is re-refereeing the game.
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@ChristinaUnkel and cable's position at that time should be known, right? or at least could be determined by camera's position.. so let's start from that..
if cables are away, then search other explanation
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@ChristinaUnkel anyway, video wasn't really conclusive because there could be other explanation aside from hitting cable such as sudden gust of wind, or some Jabulani situation (been hearing the quirckiness of this ball), or Jedis and Siths in the audience 👀
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Re FIFA connected ball technology. Sensor inside ball continuously measures movement. Clarify it is NOT limited by how high ball is above pitch.
FIFA reports connected ball data found no indication of contact with cable, that becomes objective info + the video review for refs.
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@D_Thon could be wind.. or quirk of thd ball that cause it to change direction unexpectedly.. jusy like thd infamous Jabulani in 2010
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Det betyr enten:
A) Teknologien funket ikke.
B) Sensoren registrerte at ballen traff vaieren, men FIFA lyver om det nå fordi de ikke sjekket det før de satte i gang spillet etter scoringen og tenker det er «beste utvei» av situasjonen å lyve vs. innrømme en komplett skandale.
FIFA Media@fifamedia
Before England’s goal in minute 45+2 against Norway, the sensor in the Connected Ball showed no peak in the 'heartbeat of the ball' when in the air, and therefore no evidence that the ball touched the overhead wire and changed the movement of the ball.
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@sazzyLM8 @TouchlineX people like to stir things up to farm engagements
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@TouchlineX Most obvious dive ever it’s a second yellow why are people complaining
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🚨 𝗕𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚: Full explanation!
Leandro Paredes was first shown a yellow card for a foul on Embolo.
VAR then told the referee to review the incident after spotting that Embolo had dived.
After watching the replay, the referee overturned Paredes' yellow card and instead booked Embolo for simulation.
As Embolo was already on a yellow card, it became his second yellow and he was sent off.
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@SuperMutantt @Ldeezee @markpougatch the ball has similar problem with the infamous Jabulani, mainly because they both use few panel..
but Jabulani is more pronounced because the World Cup back then were played in place with relatively lower air pressure I believe
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Too late for conspiracy theories- it didnt hit the wire!
FIFA Media@fifamedia
Before England’s goal in minute 45+2 against Norway, the sensor in the Connected Ball showed no peak in the 'heartbeat of the ball' when in the air, and therefore no evidence that the ball touched the overhead wire and changed the movement of the ball.
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@Ldeezee @markpougatch I've read that because this ball only uses 4 panel, it is smoother and prone to unexpectly change direction, like knuckleball, that is hellish for goalkeeper.. I believe it's Joe Hart who said that
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@markpougatch It obviously hit the cable. The ball stops and reverses direction...
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@centrist_ok @AlgerianFooty allowing goals that's only possible as a result of a foul from the attacking team is against the spirit of the game too
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@centrist_ok @AlgerianFooty the spirit of the game is you shouldn't foul the other player to gain possession
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@g5xaf yes, no handball
not deliberate, close range, no chance to move, normal hand motion
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今の場面、ハンドやと思うけど…🤔
あれがなければ、こぼれ球がルカクに繋がってた可能性あった気がする。
ハンドなら決定機の阻止級。でもVAR介入なし。
これ、ノーハンドの判定でOKなん？
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@Akrambtw the handball was not deliberate, it was a quick bounce and hand was in natural motion..
and you are supposed to play to the whistle, not complaining while the other team is attacking.. that's their own fault..
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I know we lost fair and square to this amazing french team, but it still amazes me that you gotta have the VAR on your side while you have a monster team, Mbappe clearly dove mazraoui didnt even touch him and the var did nothing, rabiot touches the ball so the players complained and stood still while the counterattack was happening, like they were gonna win anyway but its kinda unfair
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The question is not if France will win World Cup.
The question is how France can lose this World Cup
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@DrFattyMcButter @markgoldbridge I'm pretty sure these accounts understands that but are just fishing engagements from the ignorants..
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@markgoldbridge Accidental handball in buildup followed by a defensive clearance with another buildup is never reviewable.
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So the viewer doesn't get to see if it might have been a handball in the build up then? We're literally being censored
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