Tyler Birkey

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Tyler Birkey

@TylerBirkey

Born Again Christian (Reformed Baptist)

เข้าร่วม Temmuz 2018
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Tyler Birkey
Tyler Birkey@TylerBirkey·
@JimSanoBC79 @rickbrennanjr "You see thousands of Protestant ministers looking deeper and finding the truth in Christ’s one apostolic Catholic Church" So much delusion to believe that's happening.
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Jim Sano@JimSanoBC79·
@rickbrennanjr @JoshuaTCharles You try too hard to argue the narrative that divides Christ’s Church. You see thousands of Protestant ministers looking deeper and finding the truth in Christ’s one apostolic Catholic Church. You don’t see priests or informed Catholics doing this in any number.
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Rome2Reformed@rickbrennanjr·
It is a serious overstatement to claim that most Roman Catholics who become Protestant were poorly catechized—especially the claim made by @JoshuaTCharles that “in every single case” they “knew nothing.” That assertion simply misrepresents reality. Many who leave have read the Catechism carefully and wrestled with it at length. Their departure is not rooted in ignorance, but in theological conviction based upon where they believe the teachings of the Roman Catholic church diverges from Scripture. Sadly, the critique made but Joshua Charles is a common accusation made by Roman Catholic apologists online. However, if that claim is going to be made, it deserves to be tested. So let’s move beyond caricatures. What would you like to discuss from the CCC? And more importantly, why do I find a number of its teachings to be in tension with Scripture? I was catechized through the Baltimore Catechism—from Volume 1 in early elementary school through Volume 4 in Jesuit-taught theology—and have since engaged in substantial independent study of Catholic theologians and the current Catechism while in Protestant seminary. On that basis, I challenge the claim that those who leave are not well catechized. I am more than willing to engage directly and demonstrate that many who become Protestant do so not out of ignorance of the CCC, but out of conviction shaped by careful study of Scripture, early church history, and Roman Catholic doctrine. @ErickYbarra3 @Trent_Horn @RealMattFradd
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I have meet at least 50 former Catholics in the non-denom church I’ve been a part of. 100% of them were not catechized even halfway. Examples include not knowing the Catholic Bible had more books, why we pray to saints, or even that the Catholics claim to be the one true church.

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Tyler Birkey
Tyler Birkey@TylerBirkey·
@JimSanoBC79 @5Solas2 "These three did not agree on doctrine or interpretation - only individual determination of truth without authority or grace" Sounds just like your "fathers" that you put all your trust in.
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Jim Sano@JimSanoBC79·
@5Solas2 The “reformation” brought division and confusion. These three did not agree on doctrine or interpretation - only individual determination of truth without authority or grace.
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5 Solas@5Solas2·
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𝕄𝕚𝕤𝕤𝕪@yesiwetmyplants·
The epistle to the Hebrews says faith is assurance, not uncertainty. Assurance gets labeled by many as pride and some even call it a sin to presume we’re saved. So according to them, faith means trusting Christ completely but never being sure He actually saved you? Make it make sense
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Jim Sano@JimSanoBC79·
@TylerBirkey @yesiwetmyplants I’ve read for many decades wyn the grace of the “breaking of the bread.” Why do you believe you don’t need grace to see what the disciples could not?
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Tyler Birkey@TylerBirkey·
@JimSanoBC79 @yesiwetmyplants Apparently YOU haven't read. If you had, you'd give me the verses instead of repeating the same stuff you always say ad nauseum.
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5 Solas@5Solas2·
The church father's writings are NOT inspired.
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Tyler Birkey@TylerBirkey·
@ChrisRojas4081 @5Solas2 @sincead33 I didn't say you guys don't quote Scripture. I said that your go to when trying to prove Catholicism is the "fathers". Your eucharist, bishops, apostolic succession, the office of pope, Marian dogmas, etc., almost always the go to is a "father".
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Tyler Birkey@TylerBirkey·
@ChrisRojas4081 @5Solas2 Who's that? I was expecting Charles or Horn or Akin. Again, you treat them as infallible when you use them to prove your positions. If you said "this verse says x, and this writer agrees", that would be one thing, but that's not what you guys do. You use their quotes alone.
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Chris Rojas 🇻🇦✝️@ChrisRojas4081·
@TylerBirkey @5Solas2 Kevin Fernandez. But I don’t think you understand what my point is, so I will state it: Catholics don’t think the church fathers are infallible, nor that they are above Scripture, so your point does not make much sense
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Tyler Birkey@TylerBirkey·
@JimSanoBC79 @yesiwetmyplants Unbelievable. I ask for one verse with no bloviating, and all I get is bloviating and no verses. If I didn't know you were a real person, I'd think you were a bot.
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Jim Sano@JimSanoBC79·
@TylerBirkey @yesiwetmyplants Witness. You guess at what the Church was in its fulness. You guess at the Eucharist as taught by Christ and the apostles. You guess at Christ’s teachings on eternal life and Peter’s unique role. You claim infallibility in your personal interpretation that is seriously biased.
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Jim Sano@JimSanoBC79·
@TylerBirkey @yesiwetmyplants I haven’t seen any evidence that you want to know, that you seek truth no matter what, you don’t put anti-Church narrative above actual truth, or treat others as Christ. Winning isn’t the goal. I keep you in my prayers.
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Tyler Birkey@TylerBirkey·
@JimSanoBC79 @yesiwetmyplants Wait, so I need these books to get insight into Scripture, but it's not in Scripture where I find that I need to trust in your organization? Which is it? You have years of education. The verses that say I need trust in your organization should roll right off your tongue. Sheesh.
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Jim Sano@JimSanoBC79·
@TylerBirkey @yesiwetmyplants They give you insights into Scripture and the Church. If you read Scripture, you would know the full Word of God isn’t recorded in Scripture and you wouldn’t reject Christ’s pillar of truth. Come back when you’ve spent serious time seeking truth over narrative.
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