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@labotimy @shane99691 This is philosophy and ethics. A sperm is alive an egg is alive. They touch and they are live. They become a being once they become conscious. Before that they are not a being. They are a potential being.

@baselessassert @shane99691 You understand this distinction you're trying to create is at odds with the general scientific consensus, right?

Imagine not being able to run for public office unless you prove that you eat the dead bodies of slain animals. What a morally backwards culture

@labotimy @shane99691 An animal fetus is not a being yet so I don’t care what you do to them.

@baselessassert @shane99691 Would it be fine to do the same to the animals you wish to protect, maybe the cow that ended up being the steak in that picture? Morally acceptable to abort that cow, but not kill it for food? This is a very strange and contradictory position.

@Nickhasdoubts @Jey6an @39arii I do t want to genocide cows anymore than we genocide horses. I’d like to keep a few around. But this is a stupid amount of cows to have.

@Jey6an @39arii @baselessassert So your plan involves genociding cows.

What should happen to people who decapitate chickens who did nothing to them?

@labotimy @shane99691 It’s not a being yet.

@baselessassert @shane99691 So a non sentient fetus is not an innocent being in your view?

@labotimy @shane99691 Yep

@baselessassert @shane99691 Ahhhh I see. So early into the pregnancy, you would be fine with aborting the fetus, because it isn't yet sentient in your eyes? Is that correct?

@Nickhasdoubts @Jey6an @39arii We may have to kill many since their lives are missable just like we do with stray dogs in cities. What does this have to do with buying meat from farmers?

@Jey6an @39arii @baselessassert There are like 100 BILLION chickens. There's nearly 2 billion cows. 1.3 billion sheep. 1 billion pigs. Like, I'm not talking about making more. I'm asking you: If we stop killing them, what do we do with that avalanche of hungry animals we will not be killing and need feeding?

@labotimy @shane99691 I’m against aborting a sentient fetus.

@baselessassert @shane99691 Okay. I'm asking you. Are YOU pro choice?

@Nickhasdoubts @Jey6an @39arii Every time you buy meat you are telling them to breed more animals.

@Jey6an @39arii @baselessassert And what about the ones that exist right now? The chickens that we've hatched over the last year, ready to be slaughtered, they would require more food than exists in the world just to stay alive for one year. Like, I'm talking about the animals we're ALREADY CREATED.

@labotimy @shane99691 There is a big pro life movement in the vegan movement if that appeals to you.

@baselessassert @shane99691 I bet you're pro choice.

@Nickhasdoubts @Jey6an @39arii This is a really good argument for us transitioning away from Meat since it’s so inefficient.

@baselessassert @Jey6an @39arii Basically, in the first six months the chickens ALONE have eaten all the grain in the world leaving nothing for us.

Dogs aren’t food. Community notes: “Actually dog meat is food”

@Jey6an @Nickhasdoubts @39arii This is a good graphic to show these people when you want to show them how the animals we eat are the most overpopulated due to breeding and meat demand

@Nickhasdoubts @39arii @baselessassert We BREED them dude. We COMPLETELY CONTROL THEIR POPULATION. We should STOP MAKING THEM

@Jey6an @Nickhasdoubts @39arii Exactly. They are now part of the human group just like horses and we have an obligation to care for them.

@Nickhasdoubts @39arii @baselessassert "aren't real animals" what the fuck are you talking about. And the fact that we made them gives us MORE of an ethical responsibility to treat them well, not less.

@shane99691 There is a big anti vax movement in the vegan community. We’ve got plenty of people who are against modern medicine.

@baselessassert I can tell you are vaxxed, but how many boosters did you get? I bet it was a lot.

“Nothing bad happens to animals on farms. People who kill animals for a living are not deranged psychopaths” People who kill animals for a living in their spare time:

@emkenobi Yall do worse to chickens and they didn’t even take anything from you

Send him to the electric chair.

@Rookadee The honey bee is responsible for the extinction of many native bees which is causing environmental issues. Regardless, debates about sweeteners is not an argument for the slaughterhouse.

@baselessassert Honey is ethical.... they can stop being snobs and just eat honey...

Eating animals hurts them btw Remember that vegans exist and eating animals is a choice.

@Rookadee If it turned out the agave cactus was unethical vegans could stop using it…

@baselessassert Dude.... a species of fruit bats started dying out because vegans didn't want to eat honey.... the demand for agave nectar skyrocketed so more forests were cut down to grow more agave trees and then they were over harvested, leaving none left for the bats that needed them, too.

@Rookadee Impossible

@baselessassert More animals die to veganism than the do to those who are not vegan.