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@curtcodein

edgy gross and profane

San Francisco, CA เข้าร่วม Kasım 2012
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dan@curtcodein·
The whole reason for allowing bicycles and cars to share the road was due to bicycles taking up minimal shoulder room space between cars and the sidewalk. these wheelbarrow kid carrying bicycles are doing a bit much.
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slothy
slothy@slothy_420·
hey has anyone seen my gun
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dan@curtcodein·
@_Trapitalism I think she as calling for more cops to come help with the arrest
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based pariah
based pariah@_Trapitalism·
in one of those videos of ICE detaining that little girl at SFO this morning a white woman can be heard yelling out "call the police!" that's whiteness summed up-they think the police is gonna save them from the police
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dan@curtcodein·
It must be a requirement for Zoox drivers to be utter dog shit at their job because what the fuck man
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dan@curtcodein·
Under armor has the weirdest line up of shoes
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dan@curtcodein·
Karaoke DJ’s love to hit you with the “your song was coming up next!” Only after it’s been an hour and you’re about to walk out.
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Big Red
Big Red@BigRedBarOwner·
ON CRACK AT WORK!!!!!!!!!!!🤣
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dan@curtcodein·
@laurenlself Why should poor people get everything
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Lauren Self
Lauren Self@laurenlself·
1 in 5 rent controlled tenants in SF pays less than 50% of market rent Not a little below market. LESS THAN HALF! 1 in 5! A $2,200 studio for $900. A $3,500 one-bed for $1,400. Are these people we know are in need of financial support? No! That is unknowable! Why? Because rent control has absolutely NOTHING to do with how much money you make! It has everything to do with whether or not your unit was built before or after June 1979! This is not affordable housing policy. It’s a lottery. If you signed a lease in a building that has more than one unit and was built before June 1979, you won.
Lauren Self@laurenlself

It is diabolical that rent control is not means-tested. Rent control in SF is determined not by a tenant’s income, but by the building’s structure and the year it was built. Was it built before June 1979? It’s probably rent controlled. If Marc Andreessen or Garry Tan signed a lease in a duplex built in 1978, their landlord would not be allowed to increase their rent by more than 60% of Bay Area CPI/year (1.6% this year) Meanwhile, an elementary school teacher living in a single family unit built just two years later in 1980 can see a 40% annual rent increase. There are no rules against that! 1 in 5 rent-controlled tenants in SF pays less than 50% of market rent. No income analysis. No verification. No one even asks! We means-test food stamps. We means-test Medicaid. We means-test student aid. But the biggest housing subsidy in San Francisco? Yeah, we’re gonna base that one on whether your building was framed before or after June 1979. Unrelated: does anyone know why the rent is so damn high?

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dan@curtcodein·
@RegressivesSF @uhshanti Why is it you people always paint the victim as a brown person? The hell is wrong with you
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dan@curtcodein·
@carlatcole @DanielLurie Nazi’s were far more evil, let’s not downplay their position in history now.
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Carl Cole
Carl Cole@carlatcole·
Hey @DanielLurie ICE agents arrested a mother and child at your airport yesterday, Nazi
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Archaeo - Histories
Archaeo - Histories@archeohistories·
In 1984, a cult carried out the largest biological attack in U.S. history by spreading salmonella on food and doorknobs in a town in Oregon. The goal was to make people too sick to vote so the cult could win a local election and take control of the town. To do this, commune leaders contaminated salad bars at ten restaurants in The Dalles with Salmonella enterica Typhimurium. The attack sickened 751 people and hospitalized 45, but fortunately caused no deaths. The idea was to make enough residents too ill to vote so that Rajneeshee-backed candidates, supported by newly registered outsiders, could take over the local government. Instead, the attack sparked outrage and mobilized the community to vote against them in greater numbers. It also drew national attention to the vulnerabilities of public health and the dangers posed by fringe groups willing to use dangerous tactics for political gain. Investigators from the Oregon Public Health Division and the CDC traced the outbreak to the Rajneeshee commune. In 1985, two senior leaders, Ma Anand Sheela (the group’s spokesperson and close aide to guru Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh) and Ma Anand Puja, were indicted for their roles in the attack. Sheela and Puja both fled to Europe but were arrested in West Germany in 1986 and extradited to the U.S. They pleaded guilty to charges related to the bioterrorism plot and to separate crimes involving wiretapping and attempted murder within the commune. Sheela served about 29 months in federal prison; Puja served about two years. The Rajneeshee movement itself rapidly collapsed in Oregon soon after. Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh was arrested on immigration charges, deported, and eventually returned to India. The ranch was abandoned, and the group never regained the political or social foothold it had sought in the U.S. © Reddit #archaeohistories
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Rob Bensinger ⏹️
Rob Bensinger ⏹️@robbensinger·
@ingridemantilla @Aella_Girl Hence the call for an international agreement to ban superintelligent AI. Bring China and Russia to the negotiating table. It's costless to try. x.com/robbensinger/s…
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Hundreds of scientists, including 3/4 of the most cited living AI scientists, have said that AI poses a very real chance of killing us all. We're in uncharted waters, which makes the risk level hard to assess; but a pretty normal estimate is Jan Leike's "10-90%" of extinction-level outcomes. Leike heads Anthropic's alignment research team, and previously headed OpenAI's. This actually seems pretty straightforward. There's literally no reason for us to sleepwalk into disaster here. No normal engineering discipline, building a bridge or designing a house, would accept a 25% chance of killing a person; yet somehow AI's engineering culture has corroded enough that no one bats an eye when Anthropic's CEO talks about a 25% chance of research efforts killing every person. A minority of leading labs are dismissive of the risk (mainly Meta), but even the fact that “will we kill everyone if we keep moving forward?” is hotly debated among researchers seems very obviously like more than enough grounds for governments to internationally halt the race to build superintelligent AI. Like, this would be beyond straightforward in any field other than AI. Obvious question: How would that even work? Like, I get the argument in principle: “smarter-than-human AI is more dangerous than nukes, so we need to treat it similarly.” But with nukes, we have a detailed understanding of what’s required to build them, and it involves huge easily-detected infrastructure projects and rare materials. Response: The same is true for AI, as it’s built today. The most powerful AIs today rely on extremely specialized and costly hardware, cost hundreds of millions of dollars to build,¹ and rely on massive data centers² that are relatively easy to detect using satellite and drone imagery, including infrared imaging.³ Q: But wouldn’t people just respond by building data centers in secret locations, like deep underground? Response: Only a few firms can fabricate AI chips — primarily the Taiwanese company TSMC — and one of the key machines used in high-end chips is only produced by the Dutch company ASML. This is the extreme ultraviolet lithography machine, which is the size of a school bus, weighs 200 tons, and costs hundreds of millions of dollars.⁴ Many key components are similarly bottlenecked.⁵ This supply chain is the result of decades of innovation and investment, and replicating it is expected to be very difficult — likely taking over a decade, even for technologically advanced countries.⁶ This essential supply chain, largely located in countries allied to the US, provides a really clear point of leverage. If the international community wanted to, it could easily monitor where all the chips are going, build in kill switches, and put in place a monitoring regime to ensure chips aren’t being used to build toward superintelligence. (Focusing more efforts on the chip supply chain is also a more robust long-term solution than focusing purely on data centers, since it can solve the problem of developers using distributed training to attempt to evade international regulations.⁷) Q: But won’t AI become cheaper to build in the future? Response: Yes, but — (a) It isn’t likely to suddenly become dramatically cheaper overnight. If it becomes cheaper gradually, regulations can build in safety margin and adjust thresholds over time to match the technology. Efforts to bring preexisting chips under monitoring will progress over time, and chips have a limited lifespan, so the total quantity of unmonitored chips will decrease as well. (b) If we actually treated superintelligent AI like nuclear weapons, we wouldn’t be publishing random advances to arXiv, so the development of more efficient algorithms and more optimized compute would happen more slowly. Some amount of expected algorithmic progress would also be hampered by reduced access to chips. (c) You don’t need to ban superintelligence forever; you just need to ban it until it’s clear that we can build it without destroying ourselves or doing something similarly terrible. A ban could buy the world many decades of time. Q: But wouldn’t this treaty devastate the economy? A: It would mean forgoing some future economic gains, because the race to superintelligence comes with greater and greater profits until it kills you. But it’s not as though those profits are worth anything if we’re dead; this seems obvious enough. There’s the separate issue that lots of investments are currently flowing into building bigger and bigger data centers, in anticipation that the race to smarter-than-human AI will continue. A ban could cause a shock to the economy as that investment dries up. However, this is relatively easy to avoid via the Fed lowering its rates, so that a high volume of money continues to flow through the larger economy.⁸ Q: But wouldn’t regulating chips have lots of spillover effects on other parts of the economy that use those chips? A: NVIDIA’s H100 chip costs around $30,000 per chip and, due to its cooling and power requirements, is designed to be run in a data center.⁹ Regulating AI-specialized chips like this would have very few spillover effects, particularly if regulations only apply to chips used for AI training and not for inference.¹⁰ But also, again, an economy isn’t worth much if you’re dead. This whole discussion seems to be severely missing the forest for the trees, if it’s not just in outright denial about the situation we find ourselves in. Some of the infrastructure used to produce AI chips is also used in making other advanced computer chips, such as cell phone chips; but there are notable differences between these chips. If advanced AI chip production is shut down, it wouldn’t actually be difficult to monitor production and ensure that chip production is only creating non-AI-specialized chips. At the same time, existing AI chips could be monitored to ensure that they’re used to run existing AIs, and aren’t being used to train ever-more-capable models.¹¹ This wouldn't be trivial to do, but it's pretty easy relative to many of the tasks the world's superpowers have achieved when they faced a national security threat. The question is whether the US, China, and other key actors wake up in time, not whether they have good options for addressing the threat. Q: Isn't this totalitarian? A: Governments regulate thousands of technologies. Adding one more to the list won’t suddenly tip the world over into a totalitarian dystopia, any more than banning chemical or biological weapons did. The typical consumer wouldn’t even necessarily see any difference, since the typical consumer doesn’t run a data center. They just wouldn’t see dramatic improvements to the chatbots they use. Q: But isn’t this politically infeasible? A: It will require science communicators to alert policymakers to the current situation, and it will require policymakers to come together to craft a solution. But it doesn’t seem at all infeasible. Building superintelligence is unpopular with the voting public,¹² and hundreds of elected officials have already named this issue as a serious priority. The UN Secretary-General and major heads of state are routinely talking about AI loss-of-control scenarios and human extinction. At that point, the cat has already firmly left the bag. (And it's not as though there's anything unusual about governments heavily regulating powerful new technologies.) What's left is to dial up the volume on that talk, translate that talk into planning and fast action, and recognize that "there's uncertainty how much time we have left" makes this a more urgent problem, not less. Q: But if the US halts, isn’t that just ceding the race to authoritarian regimes? A: The US shouldn’t halt unilaterally; that would just drive AI research to other countries. Rather, the US should broker an international agreement where everyone agrees to halt simultaneously. (Some templates of agreements that would do the job have already been drafted.¹³) Governments can create a deterrence regime by articulating clear limits and enforcement actions. It’s in no country’s interest to race to its own destruction, and a deterrence regime like this provides an alternative path. Q: But surely there will be countries that end up defecting from such an agreement. Even if you’re right that it’s in no one’s interest to race once they understand the situation, plenty of people won’t understand the situation, and will just see superintelligent AI as a way to get rich quick. A: It’s very rare for countries (or companies!) to deliberately violate international law. It’s rare for countries to take actions that are widely seen as serious threats to other nations’ security. (If it weren't rare, it wouldn't be a big news story when it does happen!) If the whole world is racing to build superintelligence as fast as possible, then we’re very likely dead. Even if you think there's a chance that cautious devs could stay in control as AI starts to vastly exceed the intelligence of the human race (and no, I don't think this is realistic in the current landscape), that chance increasingly goes out the window as the race heats up, because prioritizing safety will mean sacrificing your competitive edge. If instead a tiny fraction of the world is trying to find sneaky ways to build a small researcher-starved frontier AI project here and there, while dealing with enormous international pressure and censure, then that seems like a much more survivable situation. By analogy, nuclear nonproliferation efforts haven’t been perfectly successful. Over the past 75 years, the number of nuclear powers has grown from 2 to 9. But this is a much more survivable state of affairs than if we hadn’t tried to limit proliferation at all, and were instead facing a world where dozens or hundreds of nations possess nuclear weapons. When it comes to superintelligence, anyone building "god-like AI" is likely to get us all killed — whether the developer is a military or a company, and whether their intentions are good or ill. Going from "zero superintelligences" to "one superintelligence" is already lethally dangerous. The challenge is to block the construction of ASI while there's still time, not to limit proliferation after it already exists, when it's far too late to take the steering wheel. So the nuclear analogy is pretty limited in what it can tell us. But it can tell us that international law and norms have enormous power. Q: But what about China? Surely they’d never agree to an arrangement like this. A: The CCP has already expressed interest in international coordination and regulation on AI. E.g., Reuters reported that Chinese Premier Li Qiang said, "We should strengthen coordination to form a global AI governance framework that has broad consensus as soon as possible."¹⁴ And, quoting The Economist:¹⁵ "But the accelerationists are getting pushback from a clique of elite scientists with the Communist Party’s ear. Most prominent among them is Andrew Chi-Chih Yao, the only Chinese person to have won the Turing award for advances in computer science. In July Mr Yao said AI poses a greater existential risk to humans than nuclear or biological weapons. Zhang Ya-Qin, the former president of Baidu, a Chinese tech giant, and Xue Lan, the chair of the state’s expert committee on AI governance, also reckon that AI may threaten the human race. Yi Zeng of the Chinese Academy of Sciences believes that AGI models will eventually see humans as humans see ants. "The influence of such arguments is increasingly on display. In March an international panel of experts meeting in Beijing called on researchers to kill models that appear to seek power or show signs of self-replication or deceit. A short time later the risks posed by AI, and how to control them, became a subject of study sessions for party leaders. A state body that funds scientific research has begun offering grants to researchers who study how to align AI with human values. [...] "In July, at a meeting of the party’s central committee called the 'third plenum', Mr Xi sent his clearest signal yet that he takes the doomers’ concerns seriously. The official report from the plenum listed AI risks alongside other big concerns, such as biohazards and natural disasters. For the first time it called for monitoring AI safety, a reference to the technology’s potential to endanger humans. The report may lead to new restrictions on AI-research activities. "More clues to Mr Xi’s thinking come from the study guide prepared for party cadres, which he is said to have personally edited. China should 'abandon uninhibited growth that comes at the cost of sacrificing safety', says the guide. Since AI will determine 'the fate of all mankind', it must always be controllable, it goes on. The document calls for regulation to be pre-emptive rather than reactive." The CCP is a US adversary. That doesn't mean they're idiots who will destroy their own country in order to thumb their nose at the US. If a policy is Good, that doesn't mean that everyone Bad will automatically oppose it. Policies that prevent human extinction are good for liberal democracies and for authoritarian regimes, so clueful people on all sides will endorse those policies. The question, again, is just whether people will clue in to what's happening soon enough to matter. My hope, in writing this, is to wake people up a bit faster. If you share that hope, maybe share this post, or join the conversation about it; or write your own, better version of a "wake-up" warning. Don't give up on the world so easily.

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Aella@Aella_Girl·
We should prob stop racing to superintelligent ai
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Davis Themann
Davis Themann@Davis_TheMann·
@LFauexProd @CAgovernor Individuals of Mexican heritage would surely prefer to park on the front lawn.
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HowlingMutant
HowlingMutant@Howlingmutant0·
Gently confronting the bull on blowing blunt smoke in my kids face and getting smacked so hard all my rings fly out like sonic the hedgehog
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Carl Cole
Carl Cole@carlatcole·
@KimChiSpicey I dropped out of high school and sold my mother's car to be in SF. This is the future. I am the future.
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