Wibb20

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Wibb20

Wibb20

@debunkdafunk

3rd rock from the sun เข้าร่วม Temmuz 2022
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@GrahamAllen When did you lot become such a bunch of whingey pricks? Fucking hell it's tiresome listening to you lot belly aching away. If you want to go, just go. Pack up your bases, and leave. You clearly have no fucking clue what NATO is, so it's probably for the best.
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Graham Allen@GrahamAllen·
Not a single American dollar should go to NATO or Ukraine again…
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@Artemisfornow No you didn't hear that correctly. Weird then that your first response was to run to social media.
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Bernie
Bernie@Artemisfornow·
Have I just heard this correctly? Starmer has stated the UK is effectively going back into the EU? Using “not our war” as an excuse? … it’s an emergency so we don’t get a say? Speechless 💣
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@princess_kim_k Love America. Hate what your government is doing to the US and to the world.
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Haters_gonna_hate@princess_kim_k·
Are there any countries that like us right now or are we all alone?
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@AVGirl4Life Show us where in the NATO agreement, there is any clause that requires members to pile in after you start a war of choice? If Latvia went and picked a fight with China, are you ready to send your kids to fight China? That's what you are asking us to do. Not a chance.
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@Sadie_NC @eroyor So you didn't sign the Budapest Memorandum then? Pledging your security assurance in exchange for Ukrainian nukes? Your ignorance to the facts, doesn't change them Sadie.
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Sadie@Sadie_NC·
@eroyor Not our issue, but we stepped up. The US is everything and more of what you listed; Ukraine is in NATO.
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Sadie@Sadie_NC·
DONALD TRUMP: "Germany said, 'This is not our war.' Well, Ukraine wasn’t our war either, but we stepped up and helped you anyway!" NATO is quick to reach out with its hands open for American money and protection, but the moment we need them? They vanish. And they’ve just proven it again. After we poured hundreds of billions of dollars into Ukraine to shield Europe’s own backyard, they won’t even let our aircraft fly over their airspace or use their airfields. These Iranian missiles aren’t a threat to the American homeland, but they are absolutely within range of Europe. Right now, the United States is the one out there taking them out and protecting Europe, and Europe’s response is still, “This is not our war!” It is not acceptable.
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@Sadie_NC I take it Trump never heard of the Budapest Memorandum then.... Just like he doesn't seem to have read what NATO is either. 🤦
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@MJRebelAngel80 @MustainCharles @mishtal Maria, you have got this so very wrong. You asked for these bases. The largest military airport outside the US. The most advanced military hospital on earth. Missile defence sites that keep the US mainland protected. Air lift and refueling bases. All at your request. So niave.
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David Collier
David Collier@mishtal·
Our government is torching our most important strategic alliance. This disaster should be understood in context. The U.S. did not ask us to choose between friends. It asked for help degrading a mutual enemy, a toxic regime that has actively attacked us. And we said no.
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@MJRebelAngel80 @MustainCharles @mishtal The bases you ask for and now beg to use. So deluded. Your global reach is down to allies. Lose your allies, and you become a regional power. You can't even fly to the middle east without Europe. You are gifting China your place in the world. All because Israel told you to.
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Maria Johnson
Maria Johnson@MJRebelAngel80·
No we are just asking you to do what you were supposed to do decades ago. The US does not want your bases- not the US people. We want you to take over your own bases and own security like you were supposed to after WWII- yep that’s his long we have been waiting for you to do what you were always supposed to do. It seems like our president is just using not helping with Iran as an excuse for something the American people have cured for decades.
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@MJRebelAngel80 @gatomontunox @mishtal And yet here you are breaking international law to wage a war that you had no plan for. Read the room. Why is it not a single country has stepped forward to help you? Doesn't the possibility that you are acting illegally, cross your mind?
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Maria Johnson
Maria Johnson@MJRebelAngel80·
@gatomontunox @mishtal How many times did the US initiate military action in any of these instances? Acting against terrorists and those breaking international laws is not terrorism but thanks for playing
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@MJRebelAngel80 @gatomontunox @mishtal You are the threat. You've threatened to take sovereign land from NATO members. You've attacked 7 counties in the last year alone. You've started a war thousands of miles from home because Israel told you to. Where on earth has benefited from your "freedom"?
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Maria Johnson
Maria Johnson@MJRebelAngel80·
Oh and I’m part native, part recent immigrant and part European Right now the US does equal world peace but we shouldn’t be that only one. No one else has been willing to step up and help ensure presence on a world stage to deter terrorists and those that can’t acknowledge inherent human rights. We are and have been asking for partners and allies in this for awhile now - are there any others willing to actually do the job?
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@ProfessorPape As sad as it makes me feel, this is alarmingly true. Trust has been broken. My hope is, future US administrations repair the damage and rebuild the trust lost. The only winners in this would be China and Russia. Trump has given them more than they could have dreamed of.
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Robert A. Pape
Robert A. Pape@ProfessorPape·
Many are asking what Trump might say about NATO tonight. The real issue isn’t whether the U.S. formally leaves NATO. It’s this: NATO is already dead We are now just writing its obituary
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Bjrn Wltr@bjrnwltr·
@SmileyPatriot76 @LangmanVince Hehe, you are on the right way to a new 3rd Reich. You blindly follow a dictator without giving it a thought. He bends laws to suit his needs, abuses decrees only for his own, and uses every opportunity to enrich himself. You are no longer a nation to be admired
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@Kitch63Mk @MonaBaran @Libertine583767 @LangmanVince If Moldova picked a fight with China, would you be ready to put boots on the ground to join their war? That's what you are asking. NATO is a defence alliance, not an extension to the US military. Article 5 only applies to mainlands and defensive actions, not a war of choice.
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@Libertine583767 @DonovanTim @MonaBaran @LangmanVince I love my US brothers and sisters. Watching damage being done to your country and to your standing in the world is awful. It's way worse than any of us dared to fear. I hope the US sees sense befire it's too late, but sadly with wounds this deep, the scars will take ages to fade.
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Libertine@Libertine583767·
I'm not going to say we need to invoke the 25th but you are 100 percent right regarding how he treats are allies and MAGA is too stupid to realize the long term consequences there. Trump crying like a baby that nobody is helping with the straight further weakens the Presidency for our great nation. He's a retard..
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@MonaBaran @Libertine583767 @LangmanVince So why does Donny keep crying everytime he is told no? If you don't need us, whats the issue? NATO is a defensive alliance. You can't start a war, not consult your allies & then demand we join in. You & Donny seem to think you have some unilateral right over us. You don't.
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Mona Baran@MonaBaran·
@Libertine583767 @LangmanVince You fail to realize that we are not asking NATO for planes, troops, money anything of substance. . To not allow us to use a NATO alliance airspace is ridiculous. No, they do nothing for us.
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Wibb20@debunkdafunk·
@CWayneIII @johnkonrad Waiting for your explanation of your claim Wayne. Where you basically fund all of NATO, when you pay the same amount as Germany. So...? 🤷
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Wayne@CWayneIII·
@debunkdafunk @johnkonrad The USA tax payer basically funds all of NATO. That is money coming out of my paycheck so Europe can provide insane amount of social benefits while shitting on us. Americans can shit on Trump. He is ours to shit on. You can, but expect us to take it personal
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John Ʌ Konrad V
John Ʌ Konrad V@johnkonrad·
“It will hurt America’s economy too” Dear Europe: Most Americans love you. Most Americans don’t care how you govern yourselves. Most Americans (especially the center and left) don’t even care that our taxes pay for your security. I warned a year or two ago that Americans will shrug off insults for years and just roll our eyes…. until we don’t. That’s how the American psyche works. We don’t care until we do. Then we all get pissed off at once and do something irrational. I don’t know why. It just is. The entire left and big portions of the right aren’t pleased that we hit Iran. Many would agree with the points you’re making. But at the end of the day, we are Americans. We will give you a long leash, but when it runs out, we jerk the chain back hard. NOBODY wants the Strait of Hormuz to remain shut. Nobody, or at least very few, want Europeans to suffer a massive energy crisis. But frankly, we are fed up with the rhetoric. And if you don’t think we’ll cut off our nose to spite our face, you don’t know Americans at all. You can push and jeer and mock and scorn us for years, even decades. But when Americans snap, it will happen quickly and without warning. And we are very close to the breaking point.
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@johnkonrad I understand your point, but a sustained oil price spike is going to shock the US economy, maybe not as bad as other parts of the word, but it will happen. I am not arguing for ground invasion of Iran, or anything, but just walking away seems dicey,

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Andrew Bridgen@ABridgen·
Europe is facing energy lockdown’s, does the deliberate destruction of the Gasprom Nord Stream pipeline in Sept.’22 make sense now ? Does the deliberate closure of UK North Sea oil and gas fields and refining capacity in the name of the Net Zero scam make sense now? All planned.
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LHGrey™️
LHGrey™️@grey4626·
Fucking Finally. The Lion of Mar-a-Lago has roared with that signature, unfiltered lethality, and the message slices through the European delusion like a Tomahawk through a command bunker: the age of American subsidy for your parasitic cowardice is fucking over. To the sniveling, jet-fuel-starved cock-suckers of the United Kingdom and its spineless continental cohorts...listen the fuck up. For eighty years we have bled treasure, blood, and industrial supremacy to underwrite your decadent existence. From the Marshall Plan’s reconstruction of your war-ravaged empires to the carrier battle groups that have patrolled the Persian Gulf since the Tanker War of the 1980s, America has been your unpaid mercenary, your nuclear umbrella, your global logistics backbone. NATO? Nothing more than the North American Tribute Organization...where the United States shoulders over sixty-five percent of the alliance’s actual spending while your militaries have atrophied into hollow parade-ground husks, underfunded, undermanned, and equipped with yesterday’s gear because you chose cradle-to-grave welfare states and green virtue-signaling over steel and resolve. Geopolitically, the Strait of Hormuz is no academic footnote: it is the jugular vein of the world economy, funneling twenty-one percent of global petroleum liquids...nineteen million barrels a day...through a narrow chokepoint that asymmetric Iranian tactics...mines, anti-ship missiles, speedboat swarms...were designed to threaten precisely because they knew direct confrontation with American naval power was suicide. We and our Israeli partners have done the hard kinetic work...the precision decapitation of their leadership structure. The heavy lifting is finished. Now these same European freeloaders, who lacked the spine to commit forces when it mattered, dare complain about disrupted sea lanes? Decades of Pax Americana have bred in you a terminal strategic infantilism: a learned helplessness wrapped in smug moral superiority. You lecture the world on the “rules-based order” while outsourcing your survival to American sons and daughters. History is merciless on this point...from the Suez Crisis of 1956, when your imperial twilight exposed the limits of European power projection without U.S. backing, to the present. Your elites are psychologically castrated by comfort; your populations softened by entitlement. You forgot that freedom of navigation is not a birthright...it is enforced by gun, steel, and the will to use them. President Trump’s directive is surgical in its venomous precision: Number One, buy the fucking fuel from us...we have plenty. Number Two, grow some long-overdue balls, reconstitute what remains of your navies, sail into the Strait, and TAKE IT. No more American taxpayers dying to keep your fighters in the sky and your economies from freezing in the dark while you backstab and virtue-signal. The parasite has fed on the host long enough. The era of the United States as Europe’s security guard, banker, and scapegoat is closed. Fight for your own oil or learn to live without it. Adapt or wither. The choice is yours, but the protection racket is finished. Grow a fucking spine or don't. We don't give a fuck anymore. 💀🗡️⚖️
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Floro S.
Floro S.@sflorimm·
USA has ChatGPT USA has Grok USA has Claude USA has Gemini USA has Llama USA has Copilot China has DeepSeek China has Qwen China has Ernie China has GLM China has Kimi China has MiniMax Europe has?
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