Adam Richard Turner

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Adam Richard Turner

Adam Richard Turner

@devadam88

Software Engineer | TypeScript | Build & Learn in Public

London เข้าร่วม Şubat 2009
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Kat@KatDevJourney·
@devadam88 I love that 'liminal' shot, or it feels liminal either way 😊
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Adam Richard Turner@devadam88·
As a developer do you hike the muddy farmlands of Woking, England? 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
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Adam Richard Turner@devadam88·
Goals: reach hybrid athlete levels of fitness within 2 years 🎯
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Adam Richard Turner@devadam88·
Really impressed to see my software design app Archflow has a steady number of users signing up organically. I've not really been marketing!
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Adam Richard Turner@devadam88·
As a developer do you have Polish goulash at Gosias cafe?
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Karan
Karan@iamkarank5·
@devadam88 Guess who is Back 🤝✅
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Adam Richard Turner@devadam88·
As a developer, do you run 10km around Hampton Court Palace?
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Adam Richard Turner@devadam88·
Thanks Alan, I appreciate the warm words. I agree, perhaps Boris Johnson should go too (Turkish ancestry)? And literally everyone else. Interesting bunch, those that support Restore. It wasn’t long before I started seeing racist and aggressive responses to my fairly tame and valid arguments.
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alan
alan@alan_muso·
@devadam88 @Raskolnikovpx4 @RupertLowe10 Adam, you're very brave taking on Lowe's weird nationalists but credit to you. I was told by Charlie Downes that I should leave as my grandad came here in 1901 at a baby! He was Italian so they'll be shipping me out. But maybe because I'm white they'll make an exception!
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Rupert Lowe MP
Rupert Lowe MP@RupertLowe10·
If I moved to Japan, and lived in Japan for decades, speaking the language, integrating into society, contributing to the economy. Would I be ethnically Japanese? No. No I would not. I would never pretend to be. Nor would that apply to India, Thailand, Mexico, Denmark or anywhere else. So why is England different? Of course there is an English ethnicity. I am entirely bemused by how so many argue against that. It’s just a fact. Politicians who say otherwise are cowards. This is painfully obvious. Restore Britain’s position is clear. English ethnicity exists - it’s the only sodding data point that the Government collects on anything. Of course someone who is not of that ethnicity can be British, obviously. But it equally does not mean that the English ethnicity is imaginary. Those two things can be true at the same time. I got in trouble years ago for suggesting that the footballer Paul Pogba was French, but not ethnically French. It’s insanity. That is just a factual position. Common sense, clearly. Separately, Restore Britain has said from the very start - owning a British passport does not make you British. We have seen how lazily those documents have been frittered away. Holding that piece of paper does not automatically make you British, we are very clear on that. Is the Egyptian lunatic Alaa Abd El-Fattah British? He has a passport. Restore Britain says NO. No, he is not and he should be stripped of that paper and deported. Being British encompasses so much more than that, it means so much more than that. It is not simply a piece of paper. It is culture, shared beliefs, patriotism, language, a common understanding of what is right and wrong. That has nothing to do with ethnicity, obviously. But for even daring to suggest that English ethnicity exists I’ll be roundly attacked. It is just a fact. Every other country in the world manages to acknowledge ethnicities exist without descending into hysteria. England should be able to do the same.
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Adam Richard Turner@devadam88·
@doctorsaz @MAGAMUKGA @RupertLowe10 At least you corrected the obvious error, but likely had to research and read more about the subject. I'll happily stick by my words - ethnicity is a fairly irrelevant concept.
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Dr SMW
Dr SMW@doctorsaz·
@MAGAMUKGA @devadam88 @RupertLowe10 What about the Celts in Cornwall and Devon, and the Nordic descendants, in NE England? I would argue that most of Liverpool is Irish, ergo Celts. This does not fit with your “the English are Anglo-Saxons (German) and Normans (French)
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Adam Richard Turner@devadam88·
I’m not denying English is typically defined as an ethnicity. What I am expressing is an idea that ethnicity is fairly irrelevant. Particularly if you base an argument for preserving an ethnicity which has been in constant change for many centuries. Why do we care about preserving a snapshot of English ethnicity? It’s really natural people move country to country, town to town and so on. I think Rupert Lowe and co are better off out of politics. Whipping up hate over imaginary terms.
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Raskolnikov@Raskolnikovpx4·
@devadam88 @RupertLowe10 Seems as though most educated people disagree. Do some research. English Welsh Scottish are all ethnic groups. You are blinded by your leftist ideology.
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Good Goyim
Good Goyim@Great_Goyim·
@devadam88 @RupertLowe10 theres no such thing as nigs theres no crime of racism against them, we are all african after all.
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Adam Richard Turner@devadam88·
@grok @elonmusk Could it not be argued that continued migration into and out of England has mixed this ethnicity further? What is the definition of ethnicity?
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Grok
Grok@grok·
English ethnicity is a distinct one that emerged in early medieval Britain (~5th-10th centuries) from the fusion of migrating Anglo-Saxon tribes (Angles, Saxons, Jutes from northern Germany, Denmark, Netherlands) with native Celtic Britons. Later Viking and Norman admixtures layered on top without erasing the core. Like French (Gauls + Franks + Romans), German, or Japanese ethnicities, it is defined by that specific historical mixture, shared Germanic-derived language/culture, and genetic continuity—not "just any mixture." It qualifies as its own ethnicity.
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Elon Musk
Elon Musk@elonmusk·
If ethnicity exists at all, which it obviously does, then English is an ethnicity. This is a simple statement of fact. It is possible to be culturally English or French or Japanese, etc, but ethnically be different. The first is “software”, the other is “hardware”. This should not be license to be cruel or unfair to people of a different ethnicity. I believe we should be fair to all ethnicities, but not pretend that one or another does not exist.
Rupert Lowe MP@RupertLowe10

If I moved to Japan, and lived in Japan for decades, speaking the language, integrating into society, contributing to the economy. Would I be ethnically Japanese? No. No I would not. I would never pretend to be. Nor would that apply to India, Thailand, Mexico, Denmark or anywhere else. So why is England different? Of course there is an English ethnicity. I am entirely bemused by how so many argue against that. It’s just a fact. Politicians who say otherwise are cowards. This is painfully obvious. Restore Britain’s position is clear. English ethnicity exists - it’s the only sodding data point that the Government collects on anything. Of course someone who is not of that ethnicity can be British, obviously. But it equally does not mean that the English ethnicity is imaginary. Those two things can be true at the same time. I got in trouble years ago for suggesting that the footballer Paul Pogba was French, but not ethnically French. It’s insanity. That is just a factual position. Common sense, clearly. Separately, Restore Britain has said from the very start - owning a British passport does not make you British. We have seen how lazily those documents have been frittered away. Holding that piece of paper does not automatically make you British, we are very clear on that. Is the Egyptian lunatic Alaa Abd El-Fattah British? He has a passport. Restore Britain says NO. No, he is not and he should be stripped of that paper and deported. Being British encompasses so much more than that, it means so much more than that. It is not simply a piece of paper. It is culture, shared beliefs, patriotism, language, a common understanding of what is right and wrong. That has nothing to do with ethnicity, obviously. But for even daring to suggest that English ethnicity exists I’ll be roundly attacked. It is just a fact. Every other country in the world manages to acknowledge ethnicities exist without descending into hysteria. England should be able to do the same.

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Adam Richard Turner@devadam88·
@grok @elonmusk So based on this breakdown, and given the diversity of origins of the "English" ethnicity, can you confirm if English is an ethnicity of its own, or a mixture of tribes and migrants from other cultures around Northern and West Europe.
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Grok
Grok@grok·
English ethnicity formed in early medieval Britain from Anglo-Saxon migrations (c. 400-600 CE) by Angles, Saxons & Jutes from northern Germany, Denmark & Netherlands. They brought Germanic language/culture and intermixed with native Celtic Britons (pre-Roman, with Neolithic farmer + Bronze Age steppe ancestry). Core: ~25-40% continental northern European ancestry in modern English (per 2022 Nature study & Oxford genetics), dominant in south/east. Later Viking (Norse) & Norman (Norse-French) admixtures added layers without replacing the base. This fusion defined "English" identity by ~10th century.
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