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Howard described the jurisdiction requirement as full and complete jurisdiction, meaning “not owing allegiance to anybody else”. Senator Trumbull, who helped manage the amendment, said the same thing. Jurisdiction means owing no allegiance elsewhere. If you’re a foreigner, you owe allegiance to your country of citizenship. They rejected absolute birthright citizenship for the children of aliens. That record is in the congressional globe and it’s not hidden or ambiguous.
The people who ratified it understood exactly what they were voting for. You don’t get to change the meaning after the fact without going back through congress and the states.
This dude is absolutely right, the court chose textualism over the recorded intent of the framers and ratifiers. That decision has been treated as gospel ever since even though it directly contradicted what Howard, Trumbull and the rest said when the amendment was fresh ink.
I’m really not sure why people care so much if birthright citizenship is limited to citizens or hell, even legal residents but if you are not a permanent resident within this country there is absolutely no reason for your child to have citizenship as you can’t legally be here to take care of them.
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@peterrocks19 @clarksonlawson_ Yup. But what isnimportant is how it is written. In a way where a law from Congress can clarify.
1) end birth right citizenship
2) the judiciary should not accept cases that alter or change the interpretation provided by Congress.
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@clarksonlawson_ Disagreement over the function is not anti-American. And you would have a better case in your comments if the actual person who wrote the amendment didn't give clarification. Which he did....

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The job of SCOTUS is not to subjectively determine whether a law is stupid. Their job is to interpret the Constitution and rule on whether a law violates it.
If MAGA wants to end birthright citizenship, they should pursue a constitutional amendment.
If you don’t like the separation of powers our Constitution outlines, then leave the country.
Your ignorance is anti-American and incompatible with the principles this country was founded on.
Cryptid Politics@CryptidPolitics
Birthright citizenship is stupid. My son was born in a foreign country. Do you think they gave him citizenship? Of course not. That country isn't dumb like we are. Birthright citizenship has got to be put to an end by SCOTUS.
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@thetimothygavin @clarksonlawson_ I’d prefer Congress pass a law that sets theinttepretation. That way it is not easily waved away.
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@clarksonlawson_ The Constitution is fine.
The interpretation of the 14th is wrong.
Not the amendment itself, the interpretation.
That's why we have a supreme court in the first place.
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@clarksonlawson_ Wrong it takes a law by Congress. Not a full amendment since the question is on an interpretation of part of the amendment. But Congress benefits from this, the left from the destruction of American Culture and the right from a constant political point.
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@RetroFlashbang @BrianAtlas Yup. My friend had his wife walk out leaving him with the two kids and a new car payment. The state does nothing. He has to work way too long to raise them. Her family does nothing, yet wants to see their grandchildren and nephews. Good thing he remarried after a judge signed off
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@BrianAtlas My ex is in child support arrears to me for over $5k and the state literally does nothing to try and locate her. Any location info I’m able to dig up I send to them and they do nothing with it. If the genders were reversed I’d have been in jail years ago.
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@ForwardCarolina @SonofKiese They are in a grey area. Plus I’d say they owe allegiance to. By that I mean one parent is already a citizen. Good thing the left loves to call it a living document. They treat it as such, so the idiot right will too.
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@SonofKiese Because it refers to people with diplomatic immunity. Otherwise, you'd be suggesting that undocumented immigrants are legally immune from U.S. law, which is obviously not the case.
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Here's the thing: if you oppose birthright citizenship, that's an opinion you're allowed to hold. It's a free country.
It means you support changing the United States Constitution, which very clearly and explicitly says anyone born on American soil is a citizen.
But pretending that the U.S. Constitution doesn't say that, just because you don't like it, is a silly child's game. Birthright citizenship is a foundational principle of what America is all about, and no President, no matter how ignorant or delusional, is able to change that with the stroke of a pen. That's just not how America works. 🇺🇸

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@ForwardCarolina Or maybe, have Congress pass a law that clarifies what “under the jurisdiction” implies and what it counts as. It doesn’t need an amendment when it is entirely up to Congress nitwit.
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@TristanSnell Wow the ignorant slippery slope fallacy!
Stating that you can’t be a tourist or illegal invader disguised as an immigrant and give your children citizenship is protecting our “democracy.” Of coursze your side needs them.
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Yet females receive the most support and resources. When will we be “equal”? When 100% of degrees go to women?
Zarathustra@zarathustra5150
Degrees conferred by postsecondary institutions, by level of degree and sex
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@LisaBritton For to many woman it is not equality it is instead about sovereignty over themselves and men. Most important is over men. To many act and their rhetoric display a great deal of hate.
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@Lukewearechange Way longer than they plan. The Iranian people are worse than Iraqi in many ways. This could have worked but it was always more at risk of being a quagmire.
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How long do you think this actual war will go on for?
Graham Platner for Senate@grahamformaine
We've heard it all before.
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@brookstweetz Nah bro, he’s fixing damage for decades of globalist rule.
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It’s going to take the next administration years to fix all the damage done by the current regime
Pop Base@PopBase
Donald Trump says he is “strongly considering” pulling the U.S. out of NATO. (telegraph.co.uk/world-news/202…)
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@StephanieMuma @Geniustechw I saw, but better to practice and play with safely in mind.
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@Geniustechw All of you people worried about the girl in front getting shot... look at the video closer there are no bullets in the magazines 🤦♀️. Good job to the parents of those children!
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@sircalebhammer Of anywhere needs it the CA is the state. That would be an economic boom
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@Lika021222 @tanomuzeA The massacre was two way. We were better armed, equipped and less forgiving.
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