Vic Park_The Band

@jonobri Great thread. I thought the planner (and their manager) gave excellent answers to inane questions. Impressive that they kept their cool. They also had to contend with passive aggressive nature of the objectors. Imagine how fast this appeal will win at VCAT. Total waste of funds.

I cannot emphasise how unfairly the Council’s planners are being treated tonight by these elected non-professionals. It’s meetings like this that typify and strengthen calls for councils to have their planning powers stripped away entirely.

I’ve attended and watched a great deal of council meetings, and @CityofDarebin is the most cursed I’ve ever seen. Aggressive councillors and a bizarrely large turnout—all over a two-home subdivision in an area zoned for three storey medium density. Darebin has a NIMBY problem.

@TheMuellerName @FOXFOOTY Sorry Ross - this makes absolutely zero sense.

@FOXFOOTY when every player and coach gets paid the same $, then you can all have medals too. amazing how socialism is suddenly popular for the club that cut john noble before the finals

“It’s ridiculous that the industry just sees me as the reason. That cup is representative of all our staff. Players get medals and win premierships, but staff set them up to succeed.” foxsports.com.au/afl/its-ridicu…

@rhettrospective @MichaelCWillson @masonsixtencox Woops - sorry for the typos. May have been quite a few beers deep at this point!

@rhettrospective @MichaelCWillson @masonsixtencox Watched from a grand final at a bar in San Fransisco. Safe to say he (and the Pies) have a lot of support over here. Enormous club, and an incredible player with sun even better story.

Cracking image by @MichaelCWillson, of Mason Cox, long after 2023 Grand Final.

@HowardFMaclean I recommend reviewing proposals that are lodged with either council or the Minister. Prior to reaching notice stage, these applications are often terrible in every aspect (internal amenity, external impacts etc).

The problem with arguing that we need to make planning laws more complex and expansive to make for more liveable cities, when the easiest way to do this is to just to allow more housing in inner city areas - and planning law complexity prevents this. theconversation.com/planning-laws-…

@Mattys123 @CollingwoodFC Didn’t think we got a rough end of the umpiring - it felt pretty right to me. Jamie was definitely limited after that ankle (basically no lateral movements), but other than that, what injury news is there? Awesome win and very proud!

No right to win that. Umpires. Injuries. Everything against us. That's a gutsy win @CollingwoodFC #GoPies #AFLPiesDees

@dnp3075 @KosSamaras Planning application numbers for apartment developments are way down. They’re simply not being lodged. Almost non existent except for a few good developers in a handful of locations. So planning restrictions aren’t the main problem - the economy is.

@KosSamaras keep in mind you can only get a construction permit (as measured by ABS) if you're able to get a planning permit in the years prior. Lots of new planning restrictions on high density & apartments in Vic is part of the story. Opening up the system for more apartments is vital.

ABS figures. Only 137 apartments were approved for construction in Victoria last Feb. Combination of low buyer capacity, low levels of industry confidence. What gets approved today gets built eventually in a few years. So we if think the housing attainment crisis is dire now - it's going to peak in 2026. realestate.com.au/news/victorian…

@SCP_Hughes Interesting. I’ve noticed period reproduction or ‘mock heritage’ is generally accepted in lots of US cities. Not the case in Melbourne. Huge cringe to that style (often neo-Georgian rubbish). Wondering how other places do it without offending every architectural sensibility.

The town South Bend in Indiana has pre-approved a set of standard house designs. This aims at lowering the planning costs of simple, attractive infill development. Apparently this happens fairly often in the USA. southbendin.gov/bsb/preapprove…

@lesstenny That this guy misheard that Whitlams lyric, but got the general vibe.

What the first thought that comes to your mind after seeing this clip?

@hasumpstuffedup Pies obvs on the rough end at least six times at critical points in the last quarter (think DeGoey x3, Murphy, Johnson, Tex Walker). Crows obvs on the rough end three times in earlier quarters. Pretty poor effort from those umps all round.

#AFLCrowsPies was possibly the worse Umpired game I can remember in my time running these accounts. Will have more to say in coming days Well done to Adelaide and Collingwood for a great game when we let it down.

@bloodiedwombat @mivalworld In this case the Greens and Labor Crs voted in support. Socialists and Independents voted to remove a level. The other Dods St application it looks like all Crs were unanimous in voting against. Different circumstances for each proposal.

@jp_klipspringer @mivalworld What actually goes through these people's heads??? "Officers recommend support, we have only four objections - mostly about carparking, it's social/affordable housing, we are the Greens ... so ... REJECT!!" 🤪🤪

An absolutely absurd outcome - Council only received 4 objections, and what ACTUAL difference does the extra storey make to the urban realm? 6 storeys is 7 storeys is whatever, yet just look at the pap they'd already approved next door... ab.co/3n4L9ZX

@mivalworld @bloodiedwombat Officers recommended support. Councillors voted for their own outcome.

@bloodiedwombat Was this officer recommendation or did council get their hands on it?

@SellerPanic @sirswampthing @AFL @MCG @Richmond_FC Great points. And Coventry if he played in an era where teams kicked more than five goals a game.

@sirswampthing @AFL @MCG @Richmond_FC How many would Dunstall have kicked if the Hawks played at the MCG instead of that windswept hell hole

Most goals at a V/@AFL ground 679 GCoventry at Victoria Park 565 JDunstall at Waverley 471 JTitus at Punt Road 464 MRichardson at MCG 461 MLloyd at MCG 452 NRiewoldt at Docklands 413 DWade at Kardinia Park 400 MPavlich at Subiaco 400 JACK RIEWOLDT @MCG @Richmond_FC

@MessengerAndrew @grugstan Merri-bek officers have worked very hard to improve these excellent projects where possible and get them across the line. Councillor and community support fluctuates, but expert planners see the merit and have supported at least half a dozen of these apps. They’re not prohibited.

@heritage_why This is a ripper. Merri-bek generally get it right with this stuff, and push developers for improvements far more than other councils IMO.

Reality vs objectors: A 20-home 'terrace house' apartment development in Brunswick. thedesignfiles.net/2023/03/homes-…

@heritage_why That particular development is a shocker on so many levels. The wedding cake siting, the commercial-style alucobond cladding that takes us right back to a 2001 medical centre, the basement ramp onto Brunswick St. No thanks.

Our heritage and character policies are forcing wedding-cake-style apartments, and I feel like it is not great. This one in Fitzroy North was in an area designated for high density but still had to 'respect' the two-story heritage houses all around it.

@heritage_why This pocket of Brunswick has many apartment buildings (the newer builds and current proposals generally of a high quality - some older ones pretty terrible). I’d say Merri-bek has comparatively fewer heritage overlays than other inner LGAs and does well with density.

So...it would be good to allow apartments to replace these single-family homes next-door? Right? 🤔

This newish apartment building in Melbourne has ~10 units and retail at the bottom. It would be BAD to demolish and replace it with one single-family home, right?

@pies_man_greggo @Cal_UpTheTigs @ozphonix @beetgordon_ Unfortunately the reality is that 2022/23 Grundy is a C+ player. This would have been a shocker of a trade if we’re talking about 2018 Grundy, but he’s had good game since the end of 2019. Couldn’t possibly have kept him on the books for that money, or anything close to it.

@Cal_UpTheTigs @ozphonix @beetgordon_ I agree... The Grundy trade was a sound financial deal but super disappointed to lose a high quality A grade player and tremendous individual human being

we really got a Brownlow medallist and pick 25 for a VFL player who has zero defensive attributes and a late pick This is unreal

@Stevefogg @Raf_Epstein Inclusive of fees for the dead 🙏

@Raf_Epstein Raf, Many (not all) Christians clearly do hold different views on sexuality and gender, but should we be excluded from the workplace or public life? How is that inclusive and allowing for diversity? Andrew has shown that he already had led a business that was diverse & inclusive

You can’t be a bigot about race or ethnicity. So why do some religious groups think it’s ok to be a bigot about sexuality & gender?

@heritage_why I’d say this can sometimes be ok when there’s another bedroom with an external window; where the circulation area itself has access to daylight and ventilation; and where it’s not every dwelling in the place. It needs to facilitate other design benefits - not simply more yield.

People don't seem to care about windowless bedrooms as much as we think they do. A very popular warehouse conversion in inner Melbourne is full of units with bedrooms with no daylight access because windows open to a hallway. People still love the building!