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Hammers United
Hammers United@HammersUnited2·
Did you know? You have to go back as far as 97-98 to find our best season at home. Almost 30 years have past, and 15 season David Sullivan took control. We have not moved on as a club. We need owners with a long term vision and strategy, not short termism. #NoMoreBS #COYI #WHUFC
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Spirit of Shankly
Spirit of Shankly@spiritofshankly·
37 years ago 97 men, women and children went to a football match and never returned home - always in our hearts and minds #JFT97 #HillsboroughLawNow
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Steve
Steve@Shabby_The_Red·
This should ring true for EVERY match going fan of EVERY football club Clubs hate the fact that we are communicating with each other. It’s time to make a national stand before we have nothing worth fighting for!
The Bobby Moore Stand@thebmstand

As someone on Spirit of Shankly pointed out, this is just the original concept for the Premier League being delivered. The vision was to move football up a couple of social classes, which to me means price out the less wealthy and encourage a "better" class of clientele with more disposable income. They focused only on the vast riches the PL would bring and they were right. However that model only works long term with regeneration of new fans. It works if you are never gonna get relegated because the group of die hards whose loyalty and love for the club could not be quantified on a balance sheet, have already left and they are now doing something else with their match days. Most of them likely realise that it's quite useful getting the time back and similar to when you break up with an ex, there is rarely any going back. Without the diehards, who indoctrinated the next generation into being obsessed with the team, where does the next generation of fans come from? Good luck convincing a young person to spend what little they have left after paying their rent and other increasing costs, to allocate a big chunk of what's left for an overpriced season ticket. Not happening, football is not high on the importance scale when you can watch every game on telly. As for the "better" clientele they attracted, they will abandon ship as quickly as they arrived come any form of hard times. What the clubs are doing right now with ticket price rises is simply ensuring that they have no loyal die hard fanbase left in 10-15 years. These changes will be forever. No more capacity crowds for just playing in the PL, owners will be forced to try and actually win stuff. If they don't, goodbye fans. If they do, those fans will demand they do it again. I'm from an era that did not place expectation on clubs, we just handed over our money and went to football, because that is the way it was. I'm still clinging on but with next year being my 50th watching West Ham and having been banned this season for breaching health and safety, I'm pretty sure it will be my last one. Unless the owners who fucked my club up completely, finally get the message and fuck off back to their mansions. The people who own clubs know the square root of fuck all about the generations of fans who helped build that club to be the thing it was before they demolished everything they inherited. They do not comprehend love or loyalty because in their world, those things are cash transactions. Football as we knew it is on life support, but the owners won't realise until one day they look around that vast stadium and see a handful of fans watching the latest pile of average they decided to serve up. #BSOUT

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The Bobby Moore Stand@thebmstand·
@black_steve1905 It will be the first real test of the IFR, I guess. Can you imagine a single match-going fan who would support this idea? If not, then the IFR should be there to stop it in its tracks. We'll see
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Steve Black@black_steve1905·
@thebmstand With ownership in the PL next season (if Ipswich/Wrexham/Southampton up) to 14+ US owned clubs, there’ll be games within 5 years played on US soil - & even a ‘round’ of games over there like Rugby League. With ‘debenture’ style ticketing for ‘Cat A’(sic) games - is it too late?
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As someone on Spirit of Shankly pointed out, this is just the original concept for the Premier League being delivered. The vision was to move football up a couple of social classes, which to me means price out the less wealthy and encourage a "better" class of clientele with more disposable income. They focused only on the vast riches the PL would bring and they were right. However that model only works long term with regeneration of new fans. It works if you are never gonna get relegated because the group of die hards whose loyalty and love for the club could not be quantified on a balance sheet, have already left and they are now doing something else with their match days. Most of them likely realise that it's quite useful getting the time back and similar to when you break up with an ex, there is rarely any going back. Without the diehards, who indoctrinated the next generation into being obsessed with the team, where does the next generation of fans come from? Good luck convincing a young person to spend what little they have left after paying their rent and other increasing costs, to allocate a big chunk of what's left for an overpriced season ticket. Not happening, football is not high on the importance scale when you can watch every game on telly. As for the "better" clientele they attracted, they will abandon ship as quickly as they arrived come any form of hard times. What the clubs are doing right now with ticket price rises is simply ensuring that they have no loyal die hard fanbase left in 10-15 years. These changes will be forever. No more capacity crowds for just playing in the PL, owners will be forced to try and actually win stuff. If they don't, goodbye fans. If they do, those fans will demand they do it again. I'm from an era that did not place expectation on clubs, we just handed over our money and went to football, because that is the way it was. I'm still clinging on but with next year being my 50th watching West Ham and having been banned this season for breaching health and safety, I'm pretty sure it will be my last one. Unless the owners who fucked my club up completely, finally get the message and fuck off back to their mansions. The people who own clubs know the square root of fuck all about the generations of fans who helped build that club to be the thing it was before they demolished everything they inherited. They do not comprehend love or loyalty because in their world, those things are cash transactions. Football as we knew it is on life support, but the owners won't realise until one day they look around that vast stadium and see a handful of fans watching the latest pile of average they decided to serve up. #BSOUT
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@thebmstand Well said. It didn’t have to be like this. Here in Germany, attendance is very affordable and the fan culture is absolutely thriving. Just compare the atmosphere to EPL games! Unfortunately it will be almost impossible to get the proverbial toothpaste back in the tube in England.
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@harveyo01 It was stated in a white paper detailing the new Premier League. I will go back and get the reference
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Anne Foster
Anne Foster@harveyo01·
@thebmstand That was not 'the vision'.The FA were under threat from the FL who wanted them to manage the game jointly.After many years of threats of a breakaway league, the FA agreed as a compromise, on the understanding that this would produce better players & thus benefit the England team.
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redmen
redmen@anndy303·
@thebmstand Spot on mate the influence of American owners who have no feelings for the club will ruin football as we knew it P S. Hope you stay up always liked going to Upton Park
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Andrew Gravett
Andrew Gravett@Grav1968·
@thebmstand Well put. Do you think us die hard fans who are left could give it one last go as a collective across clubs to try to influence? Get games on TV called off. Agreed non-attendance at MNF games etc? All clubs are the same now the majority are US owned.
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Steve Black
Steve Black@black_steve1905·
@thebmstand They never needed to divide to rule because the tribal nature of support we divided ourselves & laughed at others misfortune. Then we get to now & realise the crumbs they threw to distract, however welcome (£30 away cap), has seen the foundation of ‘legacy’ support collapse
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@alexanderjourno I think so, we already saw it in Spain and Italy where they sold their souls to TV companies before the PL came to be.
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Alexanderjourno
Alexanderjourno@alexanderjourno·
I don't think there is an easy fix to it though. Football as a business has become like its own mini country/economy. Although I personally believe the game has to evolve (it cannot stay in the 90's forever like some fans want it to) professional football is becoming an ever decreasing cycle of self-sabotage when it comes to the local/loyal fans. It will probably experience a boom and bust cycle at some point because demand for the game will always be there.
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.@SCFCJosh96·
The 'better' class of fan also willing to pay through the nose for the clubs ripoff merchandise and food/drink inside the ground. To prove how much of a big fan they are
The Bobby Moore Stand@thebmstand

As someone on Spirit of Shankly pointed out, this is just the original concept for the Premier League being delivered. The vision was to move football up a couple of social classes, which to me means price out the less wealthy and encourage a "better" class of clientele with more disposable income. They focused only on the vast riches the PL would bring and they were right. However that model only works long term with regeneration of new fans. It works if you are never gonna get relegated because the group of die hards whose loyalty and love for the club could not be quantified on a balance sheet, have already left and they are now doing something else with their match days. Most of them likely realise that it's quite useful getting the time back and similar to when you break up with an ex, there is rarely any going back. Without the diehards, who indoctrinated the next generation into being obsessed with the team, where does the next generation of fans come from? Good luck convincing a young person to spend what little they have left after paying their rent and other increasing costs, to allocate a big chunk of what's left for an overpriced season ticket. Not happening, football is not high on the importance scale when you can watch every game on telly. As for the "better" clientele they attracted, they will abandon ship as quickly as they arrived come any form of hard times. What the clubs are doing right now with ticket price rises is simply ensuring that they have no loyal die hard fanbase left in 10-15 years. These changes will be forever. No more capacity crowds for just playing in the PL, owners will be forced to try and actually win stuff. If they don't, goodbye fans. If they do, those fans will demand they do it again. I'm from an era that did not place expectation on clubs, we just handed over our money and went to football, because that is the way it was. I'm still clinging on but with next year being my 50th watching West Ham and having been banned this season for breaching health and safety, I'm pretty sure it will be my last one. Unless the owners who fucked my club up completely, finally get the message and fuck off back to their mansions. The people who own clubs know the square root of fuck all about the generations of fans who helped build that club to be the thing it was before they demolished everything they inherited. They do not comprehend love or loyalty because in their world, those things are cash transactions. Football as we knew it is on life support, but the owners won't realise until one day they look around that vast stadium and see a handful of fans watching the latest pile of average they decided to serve up. #BSOUT

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All At Sea fanzine
All At Sea fanzine@AllAtSeaFanzine·
@thebmstand Can't deny that. If people continue to pay the ticket prices, they'll continue to put them up. But younger fans aren't leaving the game. They're just abandoning the big clubs for clubs like mine.
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The Bobby Moore Stand@thebmstand·
He is absolutely right. Clubs will be left with huge big empty stadiums when the tourists find something else to do. The clubs treatment of loyal fans means that the historic bond of duty from a fan to a club has been severed for good. Well done to the amazing generation of club owners.
Jacob Steinberg@JacobSteinberg

Football will lose the younger generation because ticket prices are ridiculous. My son is obsessed with football, loves going and can easily sit through a game but taking him can be very expensive.

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The Bobby Moore Stand@thebmstand·
@AllAtSeaFanzine I was talking about the Premier League clubs like mine who have built a big fanbase on bringing next generations through.
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All At Sea fanzine@AllAtSeaFanzine·
@thebmstand Football is not losing the younger generation at all. I agree with some of his points, particularly about ticket prices, but our crowds are healthier than ever and there are literally thousands of under 25s at our games. Top level may be losing fans but the rest of the game isn't
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