
vmal
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@RomanosOrthodox @GermanCarranza3 @BrotherAugusti2 submitting to that ascetic obedience is infinitely superior to you trying to interpret the Saints alone through the filter of your secular education and autonomous ego.
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@RomanosOrthodox @GermanCarranza3 @BrotherAugusti2 knowledge is relational because truth is a person. in praxis, your learning is far more effective from your priest and bishop relationally.
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@MichaelS1453 @GermanCarranza3 @Cri1823759Cris You are importing a different metaphysical understanding to the words of the Church Fathers.
Because of your framework the words are nominal labels.
You can’t properly understand the mind of the church unless you ditch your baggage and adopt the early church metaphysic
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@GermanCarranza3 @Cri1823759Cris You heretics are terrible. The Church Fathers and Holy Councils all teach Original Sin. Not one doesn’t. The Atonement is also Biblical and supported by the Church. Is extremely clear and bishops can be wrong. You’re against the whole Church.
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@MrAugustlw2c @JeromeChukwuwem Using 'formally distinct' inevitably imports Actus Purus. You cannot divorce the scholastic term from the ontology it was engineered to protect.
To claim this is Orthodox, you must prove the Cappadocians taught Actus Purus. You can't. You're defending Latin essentialism.
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@vmalonbc @JeromeChukwuwem St. Augustine taught what the cappadocians did and you haven’t proven he didn’t. God’s essence is formally distinct from his energies not really distinct as another reality
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To have a good ecclesiology it needs to be triadic in nature. The Augustinian ecclesiology of the Church reflects orthodox anthropology and hamartiology.
For St Augustine, and by extension orthodox Christians, the head of the body of Christ is Christ himself, the body of Christ is the Church, and the soul of this body is nothing else than the Holy Spirit.
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@MrAugustlw2c @JeromeChukwuwem You are boxed into a fatal binary. Pick one:
1Augustine = Cappadocian. Explain how his absolute simplicity (God IS what He has) allows the Essence-Energy distinction without smuggling in Thomist conceptual categories.
2Both are Thomist. You're just a Papist LARPer.
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@vmalonbc @JeromeChukwuwem You have yet to prove he taught it instead of asserting he did because of the dyer slop you consumed. He obviously held to the 2nd council and taught in accordance with it.
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@MrAugustlw2c @JeromeChukwuwem He had errors, just as you would admit with St. Gregory of Nyssa and apocatastasis.
Your grandstanding is ridiculous because you claim he means exactly what the Cappadocians meant.
Meanwhile, you have to use later, anathematized Thomist definitions to actually defend him.
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@vmalonbc @JeromeChukwuwem He didn’t teach the Filioque nor was his analogy wrong. You haven’t read De Trinitate. He literally says whatever is owed to no one else but the Father and sees the procession from Father and Son to be the as the Father and Spirit send the Son. Economic procession.



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@MrAugustlw2c @JeromeChukwuwem You view the Filioque purely as a papal rule because your mind is trapped in forensic categories. The disease began when the Spirit was defined as a mutual bond, collapsing hypostatic origin into shared essence. You defend an institutional stamp, not the living Trinity.
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@MrAugustlw2c @JeromeChukwuwem You resort to name-calling because you treat theology as a legal purity test. A saint can achieve theosis yet err in discursive logic (dianoia). Identifying Augustine's psychological analogy as the root of the Filioque isn't an insult, it's necessary metaphysical taxonomy.
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@MrAugustlw2c @JeromeChukwuwem you are projecting your own paradigm
because roman catholics and protestants are two sides of the same latin scholastic paradigm
you keep removing the reality from the words
so you use “darkened nous” as a slur and Filioque as a canonical codification
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@vmalonbc @JeromeChukwuwem You called him a Filioquist. You have a darkened nous slandering a saint. Your Protestant upbringing makes you reject dogma. You are a subversive
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@MrAugustlw2c @JeromeChukwuwem you can’t understand arguments and call it slander
you are functionally nominalist and reduce theology to labels
and it’s all downstream from your upbringing
you can’t see because of a clouded nous due to your passions of pride
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@vmalonbc @JeromeChukwuwem No I didn’t you slander the holy and pious St. Augustine. He didn’t teach the Filioque and modernist atonement deniers like you who say this disgrace the church
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@MrAugustlw2c @JeromeChukwuwem claims to be “intellectual” and devolves to false piety
the fruits of putting discursive reasoning above the nous
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@vmalonbc @JeromeChukwuwem No you use world salads and reject Orthodox teaching. I will pray you become a Christian one day
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@MrAugustlw2c @JeromeChukwuwem the roman catholic turns protestant when he can’t understand arguments
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@vmalonbc @JeromeChukwuwem Do you always yap meaningless words?
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@pearlythingz So you're saying you're better than orthodox christians because you don't act like you're better than people?
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I love honest Christians
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No we are trying to establish if you have the same morral framework and worldview.
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@ruckusofantioch @blessedmikko @JeromeChukwuwem clean full circle performative contradiction.
using a nominalist-adjacent criterion (words as the standard) to police theology, while simultaneously invoking realist ontology to condemn Barlaam
Mar Damascene 💮@ruckusofantioch
None of the saints used this terminology btw. By this reasoning we r supposed to believe that you believe in two Gods bc that’s what’s implicated by ontological distinction, a distinction in being. This notion contradicts Palamas, Kokkinos, Scholarios, and Eugenikos. It’s heretical.
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@vmalonbc @blessedmikko @JeromeChukwuwem I’m not a nominalist. Barlaam was a nominalist tho, but nominalism would mean that any predicates of God are abstract motions without a real grounding. In other words, illusionary but that’s obviously not the case.
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@ruckusofantioch @blessedmikko @JeromeChukwuwem do you even understand what i just said?
your declarations mean nothing.
your theological praxis is nominalist.
we can all read it here.
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@ruckusofantioch @blessedmikko you just assume your scholastic interpretation of DS is what is meant in the Synodikon.
no one is falling for these theatrics.
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@vmalonbc @blessedmikko The Synodikon condemns the rejection of divine simplicity, which is held in both East and West, in various ways via various types of distinctions.
If u reject DS u necessarily posit two res or two objects of divinity aka two gods.
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@ruckusofantioch @blessedmikko @JeromeChukwuwem you misinterpret the definition because of your incorrect framework. that’s why quoting Kokkinos back to you is pointless.
you can’t see the words clearly.
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@vmalonbc @blessedmikko @JeromeChukwuwem It’s defined by Kokkinos, at least we can find this in the father unlike wtv ur saying. Still ur not demonstrating the issue u just assert things
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