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@WestsideLAGuy Major short guy energy in this post

Hard pill for men to swallow but it needs to be said. If a girl swipes left on you on Hinge, she’s not “swiping right” because you cold approach her at trader joe’s. What a woman is attracted to does not magically change because it’s IRL.

@EdwardJSofel @Triceratops235 @janecoaston There are good studies showing men fall in love faster, say I love you sooner, and take longer to recover from breakups. Large majority of divorces are initiated by women. The issue is their inability to be loved and their constant desire for something better than what they have.

@wuzLeft4Bread @Triceratops235 @janecoaston Yes they have. They're porn-addled perverts who don't care about anyone or about their own virtue. Repulsive. Women can smell the perversion & inability to love so they've decided that if they have to settle for someone selfish, it might as well be Chad.

@Thisiswhyidrin1 @janecoaston Do you not realize the reason for that historical norm is polygyny? Men hoarded women like resources. It’s a bad thing that women are shifting societal behavior back toward a time when they were property. They should stop doing that.

@wuzLeft4Bread @janecoaston 2. And this doubled regression somehow still is more favorable than historic norm that it is regressing towards! It seems that the 40-50 years stretch when most men wrre coupling up is the anomaly for our species - the issue is then with the higher powers, not the bad, evil women

they are probably not dating *anyone.*

@Thisiswhyidrin1 @janecoaston Because it wouldn’t do anything. The fuckboy isn’t the one engaging in mass self delusion. He’s the symptom, not the disease. If you eliminated all of them, self deluded women would just go celibate. And social stature should never have been a culturally enforced mating criteria.

@wuzLeft4Bread @janecoaston Harems were few and far between too - how about taking issue with the local fuckboi who believes he is entitled to a roster his relative social stature wouldn't allow him in the past? What about humbling his hyper entitled behaviour powered by apps?

@EdwardJSofel @Triceratops235 @janecoaston Men haven’t changed. The primary cause of this is women feeling entitled to a highly attractive men because of the massive volume of attention they get on the apps. It’s a female problem.

@wuzLeft4Bread @Triceratops235 @janecoaston The primary cause of this is that men are fornicators who lack virtue.

@Thisiswhyidrin1 @janecoaston 1. Because men never changed. There have always been guys attractive enough to have harems. The problem is that apps convinced masses of women they’re all entitled to that guy. 2. The issue isn’t the aggregate, its the continued regression (doubling so far).

@wuzLeft4Bread @janecoaston 2. So 1/4 of men are sexless now, and that is a problem? I suggest you check the historic share of men who never reproduced. 1/4 is a very, very favorable setup, comparatively speaking

@EdwardJSofel @janecoaston Hypergamy IS aspirational. The only way the chart makes any sense is if it’s describing aspiration; 75% of young men still manage to get laid each year because women choose to settle for them.

@wuzLeft4Bread @janecoaston The author clearly seems to indicate a BREEDING pattern with this chart, not an ASPIRATIONAL pattern. If the chart is supposed to be aspirational, the word hypergamous is misplaced and the lack of indication that the lower echelon lines are only aspirational is misleading at best

@Triceratops235 @EdwardJSofel @janecoaston Any woman can get laid. Getting sex is not the arbiter of female sexual value. Value is measured by getting a man to devote his resources and effort to you alone. Even among rising sexlessness in the younger cohort, 87% of young women were able to get laid in the past year.

@wuzLeft4Bread @EdwardJSofel @janecoaston It sounds like they’re having a reasonably easy time getting laid. So whatever you want to say about their sense of attractiveness, it’s not “overinflated”

@janecoaston The issue is the behavioral outcome for women specifically. Women feel entitled and overshoot because of the mass attention they get on dating apps/IG and social consensus, so they get run through by hotter men who would never commit and end up wondering why no one wants to stay.

@wuzLeft4Bread and low status men think they deserve high status women. such as it ever was.

@Triceratops235 @EdwardJSofel @janecoaston 1. Women’s overinflated sense of attractiveness from dating apps/IG male attention ends with hating men for the endless cycle of getting used just for sex by more attractive men. 2. The counter reaction: 1/4 of the younger male cohort is sexless now, twice the rate of women.

@wuzLeft4Bread @EdwardJSofel @janecoaston Ok and? They don’t want to have sex with men they’re not attracted to. So they don’t. What’s not working?

@Thisiswhyidrin1 @janecoaston The problem is that 1. Women’s overinflated sense of attractiveness from app attention ends with hating men for the endless cycle of getting used for sex by more attractive men. 2. The counter reaction: 1/4 of the younger male cohort is sexless now, twice the rate of women.

@wuzLeft4Bread @janecoaston It seems that the problem is that while for men, as the saying goes, sex is like pizza - even the bad one is still good (or so they say, while exclusively chasing Stacy), for women it's good mate>being alone>suboptimal mate, and, idk, take it with God, Mother Nature or whatever

@Triceratops235 @EdwardJSofel @janecoaston That stops working when their sense of their own value is vastly overinflated by male attention on instagram and dating apps, so the only men they’re attracted to are guys that will just use them for sex and never commit.

@wuzLeft4Bread @EdwardJSofel @janecoaston What they want and think they deserve is to only have sex with men they’re attracted to. Thats an extremely reasonable expectation.

@cold_and_quiet The issue is that they think they have a chance to lock in a guy much more attractive than they can get bc they get tons of sexual attention on IG or dating apps and end up with an overinflated sense of their value to men. It’s hypergamy. Men get the opposite effect; loneliness.

@wuzLeft4Bread Okay but the issue isn’t hypergamy, it’s that they open their legs before they get a commitment

“Hypergamy” discussions are stupid. Everyone (male or female) wants the hottest, most desirable person they can get. If the issue is that women only care about looks and money then call them shallow, but also keep in mind that men are at least as shallow as women.

@EdwardJSofel @janecoaston It’s what women want and think they deserve, not what they can actually get.

@janecoaston Right, this is the fundamental idiocy of the "equality" chart. Women who are 1s & 2s are most certainly not dating men who are 7s.

@Novanamix Everyone seeing this and not realizing it’s just because they’re dating men over 30.

My little brother is sleeping around with a couple of girls (who know about one another) and he would say that he’s single and they would say that they aren’t. To me this says that men are just less likely to commit to feeling in a relationship. My brother is like 5’5 btw.

@VivaldiVril I think what men are really mad about is that women will happily get rawed out by top 0.01% attractive guys and then turn around and demand princess treatment from everyone else.

Major issue with dating apps that no one addresses: 1- Many men hit on any attractive women they see, no matter how incompatible they may be. This drives many women off the apps completely, as they become unusable. 2- Many men (most?) on apps are openly only looking for casual sex or FWB. That's what many guys are really mad about, they're not looking for a wife. 3- Many men present themselves poorly and have nothing to say in conversation, because they're not actually interested in the woman or her life, they're just fishing for causal sex. 4- Many of the most successful men on the apps use scripted conversation starters and meticulously craft their profiles. Their height and income are largely exaggerated or made irrelevant because they message so many women and use PUA methods to gin up dates.

@Lethal_Vitality That’s why the charts show percentiles, not simple averages.

@wuzLeft4Bread Just an ex: If you have a sample of 10 women, each with a body count of 1, the avg female body count of the sample is 1. If 4 women from that sample had a body count of 25 each, with the remaining women still only having 1, the avg female body count is now 10.6.

Since virtually all of these hypergamy statistics come exclusively from dating apps, I put together a bell curve to explain how it actually works. -Top 20% of real life males aren't even using dating apps. -The 20% of men that receive the most female attention are average guys

@Lethal_Vitality Sure, but that data isn’t app based. One shows men engaging in casual sex, single 18-39 in the past year, and the other shows male general population number of partners. It’s showing a general problem in female behavior that is only hinted at by the app data.

@wuzLeft4Bread Using these apps for legitimate dating pursuits is insanely retarded for obvious reasons. It is astoundingly stupid for any man to approach dating apps with any expectation of finding a virgin woman who's ready for marriage