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Polymarket trading floor Sumali Kasım 2024
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Elton Ma
Elton Ma@Eltonma·
Ugly World Peace Day for Billly! Or Maybe it is the Husband.... Now the Month in red... Sad. But should be able to cover unless something really unexpected happen... like "World Peace"
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Moses
Moses@holy_moses7·
This graph is so clean, I think inverse trading him might be the clear path to richness.
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iForgor
iForgor@iForgor_PM·
@scottonPoly @Domahhhh The 8 minutes of silence at the end for the loser counterparties was a nice touch
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Scottilicious
Scottilicious@scottonPoly·
Panel with @Domahhhh and Scottilicious from the Prediction Markets Conference below, with edits. Moderator Jacob Kozhipatt from Market Machines was great we would have had more of him in video were it not for a sound issue.youtube.com/watch?v=G3wxPn…
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Gaeten Dugas
Gaeten Dugas@GaetenD·
I usually try any new product I can get my hands on but this just sounds like a shitty flavor.
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Rooke Brollins
Rooke Brollins@RookeBrollins·
This is your daily reminder that many "journalists" are dumb and have no idea whatsoever about the subject they're covering. 🦔
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iForgor
iForgor@iForgor_PM·
good post
Domer❤️‍🔥@Domahhhh

Hopefully Polymarket is on precipice of replacing UMA, because the "oracle" that underpins the site is now a disinformation engine that has been taken over by rogue traders. (If you find the below post confusing, byzantine, stupid, or anything else, first of all that's probably partly my fault, and secondly that's also exactly what I am trying to convey: the resolution of markets is now a dizzying, corrupt mess.) -- The largest and most influential voter in the "oracle" that governs Polymarket's prediction market is no longer anyone with Risk Labs (UMA was created by a legit crypto company, but they've stopped updating UMA and largely abandoned it). It is now UMA Rocks, a collection of Polymarket traders. UMA Rocks decisions are made by various unqualified bozos, who have real-money positions in the markets they're voting to resolve, and thus have a strong incentives in resolving markets to something that personally benefits them. -- Which brings us to the market in question: corny loser Clavicular claimed/joked that he got a girl pregnant, as he has done in the past. He said she was pregnant within 10 days of meeting him. He offered no proof, and talks about it very vaguely, sometimes implying that it is true, sometimes implying that it is a joke. Polymarket has a relationship with Clavicular, and had a market up on a pregnancy announcement (we'll set aside whether Clavicular himself traded on this, I have no idea. He was aware of the market). Obviously a streamer is not inherently credible when his brand is making silly viral clips, and that is doubly true when the streamer is making vague comments. The rules correctly require a credible claim. It shouldn't expire yes until we get something...anything...that is credible. Common sense. Scrolling through the arguments, pretty much every single long-time user of Polymarket thinks it shouldn't count (even ironically including some yes holders). And as anyone who has tried to get pregnant with a partner will realize, his joke doesn't even make sense: it is next-to-impossible to go from sex to a positive pregnancy test within 10 days. But it IS going to expire to yes in a few hours for one reason: UMA Rocks has hijacked the voting process. A user named Scout (who was, at the time, one of the biggest yes holder and also a key UMA Rocks member) posted that it should be Yes because Clavicular is unimpeachable as a source on himself. Note here that Scout is already banned from Polymarket's discord server (very hard to do lol) for engaging in borderline criminal activity, before any of these events happened. Scout then propelled UMA Rocks to officially side with Yes. The second largest voter, a Risk Labs employee, then switched his vote after UMA Rocks voted (this was done out of self preservation, because if you vote on the losing side in UMA, you lose money). The vote was somewhat close in the first round, with "Yes" edging out "Too Early to Expire" in raw token votes (the vast majority of tokenholders voted "Too Early", but UMA Rocks led the small number of whales who actually decide the outcomes to voting "Yes"). Because of the way that UMA works -- it incentivizes the most popular answer rather than the truthful answer -- anything that is leading in a previous round is extremely likely to win. And so now the vote is overwhelmingly projected to go Yes. Clav's "announcement" was a few days ago, and we now know it is very unlikely that anyone is pregnant/girl was already kicked out of his house allegedly, and that it was extremely likely a viral joke from a streamer in need of positive PR...but the wheels are in motion and nobody is trying to stop it. -- Post-script: (1) Scout was kicked out of UMA Rocks a few hours ago for this scheme. (2) UMA Rocks has attempted to wield its influence in various markets since it became the largest holder of UMA a few weeks ago, often posting to flip the odds. But it also often ultimately fails, because Polymarket intercedes and clarifies against them. (3) Polymarket has strangely not clarified or commented on this one, despite it receiving a lot of attention. Which brings me to my final point. It's now been a year since the minerals market heist, where users lost millions of dollars to a fraudulent UMA scheme that took place over a weekend. We were assured that things would change. Unfortunately nothing has changed, and it has gotten far, far, far worse. UMA is far more vulnerable than it was a year ago, and the inmates are starting to take the asylum.

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iForgor
iForgor@iForgor_PM·
@GaetenD Wait till the see the dildo markets
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Gaeten Dugas
Gaeten Dugas@GaetenD·
One of the benefits of a Kalshi market going full retard is that friends you haven't chatted with for a while message you asking wtf.
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iForgor
iForgor@iForgor_PM·
@Frosen Biggest scam market since suit
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Frosen
Frosen@Frosen·
If you want to bet on this Clavicular market you need to: 1. Understand how to interpret vague rules 2. Know how similar Polymarkets have resolved in the past 3. Understand the complex resolution process 4. Argue in favor of your side in the UMA discord server 5. Understand how certain large UMA users such as UMArocks influence voting and market price 6. Understand that Polymarket might issue a clarification, and that this clarification might lead to a different outcome compared to UMA vote in the absence of a clarification 7. Know how the top UMA holders tend to vote 8. Track the votes 9. Understand the vote rolling process 10. Finally, you need to determine the fair value of the market based on everything listed above I think the system might be broken!
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iForgor
iForgor@iForgor_PM·
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brokie
brokie@BrokieTrades·
The shooter was just a flight of stairs away from the ballroom
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Scottilicious
Scottilicious@scottonPoly·
We just walzed into the most interesting conference in Las Vegas as special guests at @predictionconlv ... @ishmilly is a great organizer, so far we met some cool peeps and shared an expert panel with the one and only @Domahhhh. We'll post that later but for now here's a fun intro:
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PredictionMarketTrader
PredictionMarketTrader@PredMTrader·
Are there really people that put money on mention markets and then don’t watch the speech? That’s like the best part
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PMTraderAdam
PMTraderAdam@PMTraderAdam·
I risked $1,779 that Trump wouldn’t fire the FBI Director for getting drunk on the job Why would he fire him? I’m pretty sure most of the Trump administration are already alcoholics
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Ivan — Predictions & Current Events
Sorry for yet another delay💩 > Was doing the voiceover then fatfingered something and deleted 2h of work >But that didn't matter cause events overtook me again and I got kinda rekt, obsoleting part of it Coming in the next few days as we wait for scenario 3 developments...🤦‍♂️
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Ivan — Predictions & Current Events@IvanCryptoSlav

My longest, most thorough, most demanding deep dive yet. Only the voiceover missing. Dropping tomorrow. Just in time for crunch time.

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iForgor
iForgor@iForgor_PM·
@MrOziPM Hormuz May good, imo sell Arp after ceasefire pump the rest look good :)
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mr.ozi
mr.ozi@MrOziPM·
I am still betting on peace. The final showdown is approaching 🔥 If you want to discuss these markets with me and other smart traders, join the PredictLab Discord community 👍
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Ghost 👻
Ghost 👻@ghost_alphas·
Never trust Trump, lol.
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tsybka
tsybka@tsybka·
Attention: negotiations! Once again, negotiations. Recently, “expected” negotiations in Pakistan were announced. Vance, Witkoff, and Kushner are rushing there at full speed to try to pressure Iran once again. Meanwhile, I believe that at this meeting the ceasefire will be extended and the negotiations will continue again. Whether anything will be decided regarding the strait is hard to say. Although mathematically reaching the 7-day moving average in the remaining time is almost unrealistic, I sold the remaining NO position due to the flow of YES buyers, expecting a better entry price and upcoming “insights” from the negotiations, which could act as a trigger for market pricing.
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tsybka@tsybka

The strait is still closed. At the same time, tensions are rising regarding a possible resumption of the war, which could begin in the coming days. As NO prices increase, I continue to close my position, selling another 10k shares at 80c. Essentially, Monday–Tuesday is “judgment day” for YES holders.

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