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Gaudiya Kurmalila bhatta panigrahi
There are certain pockets in Bengal (like this one from Krishnanagar) where Dasabhujā Katyāyani (Durga) vigraha is made in accordance with dhyana "Atashipushpavarnabhām". Most icons are made with slight bheda of that dhyana i.e "taptakānchanavarnābhām)
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'andra@useoneonly·
So if you want to argue a text isn't in BHS, you have to perform a linguistic analysis showing lack of meaningful Prakrit features, not dig out a reference to Sanskrit lmao
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I'm pretty sure there's not a single text that describes itself in anything that resembles "Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit". That's a scholarly term for Sanskrit texts within a Buddhist milleu that display large amounts of Prakrit features (to the point of being Sanskritized Prakrit)
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The Spitzer Manuscript is often said to be in “Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit.” However, a fragment reads “ucchāryetu saṃskṛt mitya”—clearly referring to Sanskrit. If it were truly hybrid, terms indicating mixture would appear, but instead it directly mentions Sanskrit.

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sreekar@breath_punctual·
There are multiple layers or strands whatever you call it 1. Shamanistic systems of Western Nepal 2. The religiousity of the Rai/Limbu and the strands within them 3. Newar Vajrayāna and Sarvāmnāya 4. Shah era Traipura smārta-tantricism 5. The Vajrayāna of the Tibetan refugees 6. Vajrayāna as noted by Sherpas and Gurungs 7. Maithili stuff strongly intermingling with (4) in my experience
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dhanyaviṣṇu@dhanyavisnu·
Quite fortunately for us a brilliant scholar who happens to be a woman has already made clear from her reading of the major foundation texts of Hinduism, the position and voice of women within it
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@opedimus @arya_amsha As a rule of thumb, you will never have a non-patriarchal social institution in pre-urban contexts. It's too easy to supercede the autonomy of a woman in other contexts, and so it will be the default mode.

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siyo"@siyonius·
@breath_punctual @useoneonly @dhanyavisnu agree except i'll take sarvāmnāya & filter out the vajrayāni bauddhas as we won't ever take a blessing from a gubhaju. yeah majority of bajracharya/shakya/shrestha are embedded in the vajrayāni teachings so it is understandable.
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@pArAsharyAyaNa Very interested in seeing the text published/transcribed. Wonder what exactly is in the common rituals
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This is pretty ironic considering it is also Kashi that has the oldest manuscript of the Bhagavata which is around a century older than Vopadeva
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Something pretty interesting is that the old indologist idea that the Bhagavata was written by Vopadeva...is first attested among the pandits in Kashi in the 17th century, and is the source of their initial conclusion
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@gorakhvacha Not sure the aniconism was a major part of Lingayatism until recently. Though really much of its positioning of as a counterreligious group is relatively late, and like the sikhs, heavily influenced by the British
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@Depra_Surfs @BmaAnirudh @ParyushanOfEast Yeah this is something I was wondering. I haven't looked into this but the most common case of recorded pratiloma seems to be v1 dynasties marrying daughters to v2 ones. Not sure how strong the marriage argument is
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@BmaAnirudh Opinion on the varna status of the Gupta-s?
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@ghostofUGK @shrutammegopaya That's the point for its dating. It has references to bhakti emerging in the South (specifically Dravida) which is also supported by its Mahatmya-s. For the most part, it is also considered to be dependant on Nammalvar though this is more controversial
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@useoneonly @shrutammegopaya maybe parts of it but dating the entirety of the bhagavata to early medieval would make it contemporaneous with the alvars. implausible that a freshly created text would spawn a canon for the ages
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@ghostofUGK @shrutammegopaya The Bhagvata is dated to the later Gupta era at the earliest but usually the early medieval. Sangam literature's latest bound is 300 CE, usually earlier. To get them to similar dates you'd need to follow the fringe scholars that think the latter is a grand archaized fabrication
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@shrutammegopaya sangam texts probably coincide with the consensus dating of bhagavatam, if not later. so there's no way to know.
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@shardula23 @NaushaGhalib Soma. Some versions of the Sautramani have the yajamana, usually a king (but not exclusively, the priest does as well) consume sura to recover their strength to properly consume soma. Sometimes the sura is given the hairs of certain animals so that their strength can be obtained
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नग्नहु-“ferment”, a mixture of herbs and specific substances which are used in the fermentation of surā in the Sautrāmaṇī rite, as an expiation for “excess” in soma drinking.
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#Persian 🥖 nān “bread” ↑ *naγan [Note Balochi nagan, Pashto naγan, Bactrian ναγανο] ↑ Proto(-Indo?)-Iranian *nagna- found in #Sanskrit न॒ग्नहु॑- 「nagná-hu-」 “yeast, ferment”.

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@kojAnAti Yeah as I said, some are conservative, but this isn't universal
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ईश्वरप्रियः
Even so, brāhmāṇa-s are strictly forbidden from drinking alochol by dictates of śāstra. Expiation is very strict - death by pouring hot wine. Even when using as offering, viprajana-s should refrain from consumption. Very few exceptions to this rule.
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Nabaarun Barooah@BarooahNabaarun

Bs, alcohol is one of the pancha-makara, which are mandatory offerings in vamachara tantra (practiced in Assam). No tantric ritual (in vamachara) dedicated to Kali and Bhairav can be undertaken without the offering of liquor.

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