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@sim_kiever @stefiegriff I have glass Philips avent bottles yes Yes she was hungry. I left her with my mom while I did a work thing and she would have normally been nursing at that time.

@maternalgroyp @stefiegriff Have you tried with a bottle when she’s very hungry? And have you tried the Philips avent bottles? Those worked like a charm for me when others failed.

some fun facts about me & sleep: -the longest stretch of sleep I’ve had since 2020 is a single 5 hour stretch and 9 nights I had a 4 hour stretch (yes I know it was 9 times because each one was a documented miracle) -newborn sleep stage is when I get the most sleep (3 hour chunks) -my babies all wake up every 30-90 minutes the entire night arouns 6/7 weeks and onward until at least 12mo. - I have virtually been waking up between 1-3 hours all night, every night, for almost 6 years STRAIGHT. does anyone else out there function on this amount of sleep? Does anyone else have babies that will not sleep longer than that? I’m completely exhausted but no one seems to have good sleeping advice other than leave them to cry. I don’t know what to do …all my other goals seem impossible while being in such a state of constant sleep deprivation.

@Liberty38129118 Yea they’re in the bed next to me Which I honestly love but I’m not getting any sleep

@maternalgroyp Do you co-sleep?

@stefiegriff @sim_kiever I couldn’t get her to take a bottle of breastmilk either though :/

@maternalgroyp @sim_kiever You can also pump & do half+half that way they get used to it. There's definitely ways to do it. I didn't introduce formula to any of mine until around 9 months. One liked it cold, one liked it perfectly 98 degrees. Both liked diff nips. Sleep improved so much every time.

@maternalgroyp Take a break from having babies is the only advice I have that would align with your goal of not letting your little babies cry it out. Or sleep training.

This is true. My neighbor (60 yr old lady) did foster care and had a young boy about 10. Sweet kid. He gave her some trouble. I remember one time she said “I told them I was going to give him back, but they got him on some medication and now I get more money so I’ll keep him longer “ Never looked at her the same again.

@Chesedgirl What’s the dose

Should I take creatine? I'm nervous about the water retention thing but I've heard it's good for postpartum

@teachrobotslove What’s Reta

If you want to be a smaller size, you have to be willing to accept that you're going to be hungry more often. That's it. That's the secret. I used to think hunger was a "problem" to be solved, but it's fine to let yourself be hungry sometimes. Not STARVING, but hungry. Even on a low dose of Reta, I usually go to bed a little hungry most nights.

@2wiceB @teachrobotslove I’m right where you are - when I try to cut carbs out or down, my supply tanks Calorie counting arouns 2000 is fine but if I go under then supply dips Each person is different tho But I’m staying fat for now

Oh yea I have a next to 0 tolerance for screaming crying babies. I will hold them the entire day and night basically their first year. If they want to be on mom - that’s what they get. lol If the baby fusses LESS with me holding than someone else holding - then I’m holding. I cannot function at all while a baby is screaming / crying. I have to fix that immediately before I can attend to anything else.

it sounds like we have very different tolerances for fussing babies! my youngest (my bad sleeper) was so pissed off at life for like the first 6 months of his life that he’d even scream and fuss while someone was holding him and there was not much anyone could do. so for us some screaming at bedtime didn’t even faze us

Like this baby for whatever reason, between 4-6 months FREAKED OUT in the car if it was after 4pm. Earlier in the day? Totally fine. As soon as it was 4pm or later it was nonstop screaming. So for those 2 months I just committed to NOT driving after 4pm for that reason. And anything else that conflicted I just didn’t go to

so what would you do if your baby was screaming and crying and losing their mind in the car but you HAD to keep driving because you were late to an important appointment? no one would argue that it permanently messes up your baby to do that because people have to drive and some babies simply hate the car. I view a couple of nights of sleep training the same way!

@straitofhermuse That seems to be the consensus

@maternalgroyp Girl you need to sleep train

@smalltown_wife @Hestia_Esq We have the option of putting the baby in with our 5yr old & 2 year old (they share. Room) Or with our 4 year old They’re all upstairs though. And we are on the main floor - so I don’t know how good it is to have a baby screaming waking all the other kids up … hmmm

we had to put ours in a separate room. honestly he was one of those babies that cosleeping simply did NOT work for. even now he’s a super light sleeper and stuff will wake him up that would never have bothered my other kid. if you have a way to put his crib in a separate room I’d definitely try that

@sim_kiever They wouldn’t take a bottle of breast milk either ! LOL so ridiculous

@maternalgroyp If you have success with bottle feeding your breastmilk, could you try adding a small amount of formula to the bottle and work your way up?

@smalltown_wife @Hestia_Esq What if our setup is like this ? Do we just pretend to be asleep and then he can check on her every 5/10 minutes or whatever ?

we were instructed to check in every 10 minutes AND I had my husband do it… not me… so the baby wouldn’t smell my milk! it was very key to our whole process of sleep training to immediately quit the nursing to sleep association and have my husband put him to bed and then be the one to go in there if needed

@sim_kiever I like to EBF but then around 6 months into a new round of sleep deprivation I regret not giving a bottle sooner haha

@maternalgroyp Oh that’s frustrating, mine had formula usually in the first week.

@redracheln agreed I function very poorly and have gained a lot of weight from the cortisol hunger it’s extremely difficult for me to do so. I think sleep training is more martyring for me which is why it’s so hard to do

@maternalgroyp Nobody functions on this. In fact, its endangering your family for you to be so exhausted. Sleep train, do not martyr yourself.

@Hopperfan @throughchrist17 @eva_kurilova Literally getting grass fed butter in 1 hour and doing this tonight !

@maternalgroyp @throughchrist17 @eva_kurilova I once saw a video where a mom gave her baby (about 9 mos.) a spoonful of butter before bed every night & the baby slept through the night as a result. Tons of people in the comments said it worked like magic for them too. Might be worth a try.

I prefer dressing really modestly generally, but my hill to die on is that i WILL NOT take a shameful or timid posture whatsoever when it comes to breastfeeding the baby whenever and wherever he needs it

@Hotmomofive @Read_Meee Yes this Your husband sends it in a group chat w you in it

@Read_Meee No you send text now individually saying hey I can’t have guests and nobody is allowed to see baby at birth sorry please make plans for later to visit with us. Send it now and deal with each family now before they all show up

Plot twist: My baby is due in December and my husband's ENTIRE family decided that means they're all flying to *my* house for Christmas. I'm talking 10-15 relatives, during peak flu and RSV season, all wanting to hold a newborn. Or worse, watching me waddle around 9 months pregnant trying to host a holiday. Seriously? 😩 I told them no, I don't want a house full of people when I'm either about to give birth or recovering postpartum