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@AddisonBanana
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Wonderland ♥️♠️ Tham gia Nisan 2025
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@ayushthehipster @maxioul @get_dunk @muyhiram You approve of deaths?
idea is it’s a secret ballot. but let’s say your mother will pick blue cuz she doesn’t want others to die regardless of the reasons. you’ll vote against the only way of protectin her? Now,apply that empathetic feeling to evry man women & child in the world
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@soggycinnamons definitely encoded selfish vs selfless in the hypothetical and in parties
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@maxioul @ayushthehipster @get_dunk @muyhiram and reds would be okay with attributing to a Thanos snap? living in a world where up to half the population is wiped out. surrounded only by individualistic self-serving cynics or selfish cowards?
concern for innocents is interesting. If only there was a way to protect them hmm

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@AddisonBanana @ayushthehipster @get_dunk @muyhiram You forget the 49.9% blue case where a lot of innocent, willing to live people die because of ideology and superiority complex that is way worst than 1% of people willing to die even with a little threshold of potential "mistakes".
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@ayushthehipster @get_dunk @muyhiram >50.1% blue, <49.9% red and everyone lives.
or
0% blue, 100% red and everyone lives.
which is more likely?
even if it’s 1% blue, 99% red that leads to others dying. Red ‘winning’ will always result in deaths. blue is only way to blanket protect everyone. Eliminating danger.
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@ayushthehipster @get_dunk @muyhiram whether by mistake or intellectual failings, or maybe just children not taking it seriously or fully understanding: someone will pick blue. I don’t want to have my choice lead to those peoples deaths. it’s thinking of others. for the best collective outcome w lowest threshold
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@diovolojo @plasmarob the ravine in the hopes of being able to form the human bridge and prop any up who went this way too, whether intentionally or accidentally fell. while each red choice deprives the blues of potential manpower, harming blues chances of eliminating the only avenue of death.
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@diovolojo @plasmarob this pic assumes a timeline of progression. the original hypothetical to my understanding is intended to be instantaneous, anonymous, and unable to communicate or coordinate with others before picking. more akin to pitch darkness going across a stable bridge or blindly going down
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@StubornStalion @Keidar02 @KARMAENVY @HighJayster @ShapestSister @MaractusArgento @lowgradef alive babies are always good. one of the goals the ones taking a risk were trying to protect. a shame more didn’t try and save everyone though. Could have prevented all deaths. Not just half or 25% or even 1% would’ve been unacceptable to allow without trying to prevent
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@AddisonBanana @Keidar02 @KARMAENVY @HighJayster @ShapestSister @MaractusArgento @lowgradef What if all the babies choose red and all the adult blue voters lose and die?
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@CoryRockFF @waldenpod otherwise need 100% to agree to “come be safe” to achieve the same result
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@CoryRockFF @waldenpod if get half to agree can save everyone. or else would see 0 < x < 50 die
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@CoryRockFF @waldenpod if purely only cared about your own self preservation yeah. but never every one in the entire world will 100% be that rational. I don’t want to see others killed when I could of helped eliminate the threat. And especially domt want to vote against those saving efforts
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@AddisonBanana @waldenpod You’re close. You’re missing one important variable and I guess I’m not doing a good job at explaining it. Simply do not enter the danger.
Red: no danger
Blue: danger
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@CoryRockFF @waldenpod hitting blue will never result in the deaths of others, only potentially yourself. hitting red potentially results in the deaths of others, but never yourself.
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@AddisonBanana @waldenpod The point is there is no necessary threat. The blue button is the threat.
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@CoryRockFF @waldenpod would think that collectively eliminating a threat would be better than allowing it to persist and gobble up any who go in for whatever reason. will never get 100% one way or the other. reds way results in deaths. a blue win no one dies.
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@AddisonBanana @waldenpod Here’s what you’re missing. Nobody even has to put themselves in danger
Press red = stay away from the fire
Press blue = jump in the fire and and be killed unless more than 50% of people jump in the fire (which would put it out)

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@CoryRockFF @waldenpod it’s presented as buttons. up to you how to interpret, not all will imagine it as jumping into fire. some kids might not understand or choose randomly. same for ones without all their faculties.
I’ll still use scenario- you see someone you know fall in, do you try & save them?
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@ArtFacility @baalzamon35 this one reminds me of the video of that spinning arm carnival ride that starts tipping over as it spins and one person tries to hold it down, then more see more help is needed. some do run away seeing it might collapse on them. but enough band together to hold it until it stops
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The crusher is a great way of illustrating this problem.
For the Red Button folks, they see this as an abstract where the crusher kills nobody until/unless they make an informed decision. Obviously, you'd get out of the way right? Hell, everyone should move, the scenario will wait long enough to get everyone out.
For the Blue Button folks, they picture a helpless child or maybe even all helpless children trapped and are willing to risk their lives (on paper at least) to hold the crusher up and protect those unable or unwilling to move. Who wouldn't risk their life to save another? Or at least, WANT the courage to do so.
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The whole blue and red button drama is basically this summarized If everyone clicked red, nobody would die. Those that click blue have suicidal empathy
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@CoryRockFF @waldenpod since blue otherwise has no affect on red win or lose, why don’t you publicly advocate for blue votes in the chance it does potentially save up to half the world, while privately picking red anyways outta self-preservation?
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