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A challenge actually brings something to the table other than "You're wrong just think about it".
If you think an unchanging mind is coherent, can you explain what that actually looks like? Because as far as I can tell, all the features that make something a "mind" seem to involve change... Change my mind.
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@Tim0riginal @darwintojesus I challenged them. They’re arbitrary and you have no reason to believe them, but doubt God.
I’m not being dismissive.
You can’t imagine those being wrong?
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@weimsupremacist @darwintojesus By expressing those ideas I was inviting a challenge from you, but you've only been dismissive and patronizing.
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@Tim0riginal @darwintojesus I’m being straightforward. Go back and re-read your post outlining your issues, but challenge your own presuppositions about minds, love, personal etc.
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@weimsupremacist @darwintojesus What presuposition have I stated that is flawed or arbitrary?
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@Tim0riginal @darwintojesus Did you really just try to use your own damnation as emotional blackmail? That’s wild.
Your presuppositions are flawed and arbitrary. Consider that and then reevaluate.
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@easynowbessie @D_Preacher_1 Justice is when you get what you deserve.
Mercy is when you don't get what you deserve.
You can't be 100% of 2 different things.
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@D_Preacher_1 God is maximally merciful and just.
If you think you’ve caught Him being cruel and unjust, your limited human understanding is flaring up.
He won’t let innocent babies suffer and die for no reason.
He is supernatural; not everything you or I think applies around Him.
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@D_Preacher_1 I find ordering babies murdered while keeping little virgin girls as sex slaves tops that.

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@weimsupremacist @darwintojesus Your critique was that I'm not thinking like you think I should. Doing God's work by not responding to a single one of my questions. I guess I'll just go to hell then.
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@Tim0riginal @darwintojesus Your critique was that God isn’t like you think he should be lol.
Go home kid.
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A Christian who re-reads Leviticus and comes out thinking “God was strict” rather than “naaah this is bullshit …this shit is definitely man made” ,then their indoctrination might either be on a very different level or it’s an IQ thing…. I don’t know.
Tspices Kitchen@Tspiceskitchen
Re-reading the Old Testament especially Leviticus has me shook🥺 God was strict! Our generation would never have survived😭😭 we'd all be cooked! Thank God for Jesus🙏
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@Tim0riginal @darwintojesus You are battling your own presuppositions and hang ups, not the coherence of the proposition.
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@sola_chad Credit God for the beautiful northern lights 🙏
Blame Adam, Eve, the serpent, and all of mankind for hurricanes and natural disasters 🫵
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@sola_chad The biggest psyop in history is they made people believe there is no God.
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@Ellie_May_R @darwintojesus You're not unlovable. What a horrible message Christianity preaches. If you're unlovable that's because God made you that way.
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@darwintojesus It's unbelievable that HE loves me, the unlovable. I praise him daily for his mercy.
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I’m not sure it’s possible to truly grasp how forgiving God is.
𝕊𝕠𝕝𝕒 ℂ𝕙𝕒𝕕 🎚️@sola_chad
Me realizing Jesus calculated all of my stupidity in His plan for my life:
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Here's a few questions for you:
1. Why does God exist?
2. What method did God use to create the universe?
3. Why are humans the only observable conscious beings that God created?
4. Why did God create anything at all?
And you can't just be agnostic. I need detailed and specific answers to each one.
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@darwintojesus I really want to help agnostics understand this. Holding the position ‘we just don’t know’ in regards to the big questions like why are we here, isn’t just a statement of words. It has profound ramifications on how you live your life. & it’s severely detrimental in the long term
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The number 1 thing atheists simply cannot understand is this:
If you change the foundation of reality, you change reality. You can’t change how and why everything is here and expect for nothing else to change. Our understanding of morality, meaning, science, personhood, choice, design, beauty, rationality, etc…. All of it.
All of it changes.
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@darwintojesus @LarsTheBadMan Ahh yes, coherent sentences from D2J: "This is a very* simple concept, if reality is fundamentally different then that will reality would be different than it is."
GIF
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No I’m not on drugs but you might be. This is a very* simple concept, if reality is fundamentally different then that will reality would be different than it is. Do I need to explain to you how possible worlds work? So a possible world with an evil God would be very different than a possible world with a benevolent God, and those would be different from a world that is produced by no God. These are all fundamentally different worlds, because their cause is fundamentally different, therefore the output would be different.
Are you understanding this now or do I need to draw this with crayons?
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God is described as an immutable mind. How can you have a relationship with something that can't change? A mind that doesn't change at all seems incoherent to me. And if love is meaningful because it's freely chosen, then how does that apply to God? If God can't choose not to love (because that would go against his nature) then in what sense is that love a free, relational act?
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@Tim0riginal @darwintojesus The sustaining mind concept wouldn’t make sense absent a personal relationship. Not sure why those would be at odds.
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@QuestionerMoney @FFRF @deadendorphin53 Christians have to believe in the concept of no God in order to believe such a God really exists.
See how stupid you sound? 🤦♂️
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@FFRF @deadendorphin53 Atheism has to believe in the concept of a god in order to disbelieve such a thing really exists.
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No. Atheism isn’t a belief system—it’s the absence of one.
It doesn’t come with doctrines, rituals, or a required worldview. It simply means you’re not convinced that gods exist.
What you believe beyond that is up to you.
Bob Golen@BobGolen
Is atheism a belief system?
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