@LordSmap @EvilCirno @Sorb3tStan Also you are forgetting that that cpu and gpu in the cube are leftover bins from last generation. Valve is getting them dirt cheap.
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so when valve doesnt sell their pc at a loss its an L for them and when another company sells a cheap pc that will encourage more steam sales its also somehow an L for valve
Pirat_Nation 🔴@Pirat_Nation
French retailer LDLC is making fun of Valve’s new Steam Machine by launching its own gaming PC called the PC STIM. For €999 (€1,039 if pre-built), the PC STIM includes: - AMD Ryzen 5 8400F processor - Radeon RX 9060 XT 8GB graphics card - 16GB DDR5 RAM - 500GB NVMe SSD Standard PC parts that can be upgraded later. LDLC says that for about the same price as Valve’s Steam Machine, buyers can get a gaming PC with better graphics performance and the freedom to upgrade the hardware in the future.
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@EvilCirno @Sorb3tStan Hahahaha. That is one of the silliest copes I have ever heard. It is an objectively overpriced underpowered device. It is okay if you just want it for the vibes but it is not fairly priced. Gtfo
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@G00BLEG00BLE @Sorb3tStan "...be able to look past what YOU value in a PC..."
- me, literally a few hours ago
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@EvilCirno @Sorb3tStan It is absolutely shit hardware wise. You just don't know what you are talking about and that is fine. Last gen mobile cpu combined with last gen low end gaming gpu put together.
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@G00BLEG00BLE @Sorb3tStan It's actually a decent product priced pretty fairly but you'd have to understand something about SFF PCs to realize this and be able to look past what YOU value in a PC which I understand most people, like you clearly, are incapable of doing.
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@Sorb3tStan And I am totally fine with. I am just so sick of people acting like valve is the victim and they are breaking even. It is bad product priced even worse.
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@G00BLEG00BLE typically businesses are trying to make a profit, not break even
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@registernoname @cybercpu @TechGeekAnthony Custom design? It is a mobile cpu and a last gen laptop rx 7600m gpu. It is a handheld pcb with more io, power, and no battery.
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@G00BLEG00BLE @cybercpu @TechGeekAnthony They absolutely paid to AMD for custom design and it is hundreds of millions. 3 years of R&D is also millions. Even retailers don't have margin over 25% and they just resale.
I'm sure Valve wanted create a "PC gaming baseline" for gamedevs so they can optimize better
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For those wondering what's wrong with the Steam Machine. I'll make a small list...
-Price to Performance is out of whack. (Aka it's overpriced and you can build a cheaper similar system)
-The Steam Machine is a open ecosystem instead of closed. (More on my reasoning in the comments)
-Not including a Steam Controller anyways with its ridiculous base price.
-The Hardware is already out of date.
-Not subsidized even a little bit to make it more available to gamers (Valve would have STILL made a massive profit even if the Steam Machine were to be subsidized. Valve takes almost a %30 cut of almost every game. They could easily afford to lose $200–$300 on every physical box sold, because a single active gamer can easily generate that much revenue for Valve. Valve makes BILLIONS via game sales and live services and DLC. It's more profitable than Apple, Google, Microsoft and/or Netflix.)
As much as I love Valve. I cannot defend this piece of junk. Sorry not Sorry.
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@Sonny1234hang @VisserMatt12345 @SirActionSlacks That is not the point. The point is that I, someone who buys these parts for retail, can build a pc about twice the performance. Valve is getting bulk deals on ssd, cpu, gpu and major discounts since they are last gen. It should be much cheaper in this economy
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@G00BLEG00BLE @VisserMatt12345 @SirActionSlacks good luck finding any normie willing to go on pcpartbuilder buying like ten different parts from two to three different places dude
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VALVE: unfortunately we need to delay the launch because hardware prices are insane thanks to Ai
GAMURS: PLZ launch :(
V: ok but ram makes it pretty expensive there's not much we can do
G: WTF why is this EXPENSIVE why are u GREEDY
V: ...because of the ram
G: I HATE YOU
Thunderpick@thunderpickco
Chat how we feeling about this 🤔
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@NikolotoBg @Black_D_Gamer1 Wireless keyboards and mouse exist. My logtech ones use one adapter for both of em
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@G00BLEG00BLE @Black_D_Gamer1 nah my mind genuenly forgot i wrote this at like 2 am. but using controller on windows will be genuenly ass unless u install bazzire game mode or steam os
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This is what the PC Mustard Race expects people to do, with stronger PC's, with RTX 6090's....
Oehoe de Uil@OehoeU
The "my PC outperforms the Steam Machine" living room:
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@StupidCatPone @Femboi_MD @ThePatrickPryor a.co/d/03mCkWTB
Had a built inside this case for 8 months. Took it with me to countless places it even fit in my backpack
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@unclegubsey @Sorb3tStan No it is not. It is a mid-low end last Gen r5 with a low end last gen rx7600m. It would be very stupid to buy it
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@Sorb3tStan people keep saying it's too expensive for offices to consider it, but that's literally your entire point. If valve subsidized it, then offices would absolutely consider it. Even at this price, it's a more appealing option than people think
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its a computer. if they sold it at a loss people would use it for anything computers do. you could buy 100 of them as office pcs or rig them to mine crypto. you think if it was a steal sam altman wouldnt fill a warehouse floor to ceiling with them?
Oyasumi Bastet@OyasumiBastet
People be like "Valve can't subside the Steam Machine, because the majority of people will install windows, and then exclusively use Epic Games, or torrent"
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@Sorb3tStan @OyasumiBastet But those pcs have good cpus with no gpus since office workers dont need dGPUs. I would recommend those over the SM and day for a office worker
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@Sorb3tStan One SM per steam account and they have to be at least 2 years old and buy history....
Are we stupid. Also nobody would do that. SM is a piece of shit hardware wise. I swear you people are so stupid
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@NikolotoBg @Black_D_Gamer1 Well you can use a controller with pc and use your tv's speaker......
Are you being dense on purpose?
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@G00BLEG00BLE @Black_D_Gamer1 Mouse, keyboard and headphones 3 more cables than a sm. 2 if you add the controller charger
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@Femboi_MD @patros36 @G00BLEG00BLE @ThePatrickPryor If it fits next to the PS3, I will consider buying it, if it does not, I will not.
If that means I'm paying more for that size, so be it.
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@exceed06 @Femboi_MD @ThePatrickPryor Watch your mouth. And if I can build something better for cheaper, that means valve with their bulk pricing is making BANK. keep licking that boot tho
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If you think you can build a "really nice gaming PC" for $1350, nobody needs to hear your opinion on this topic.
Trent Reed@trentreed27
I love Steam, but $1,349 is getting into “build a really nice gaming PC” territory. The Steam Machine has to offer something special beyond convenience. Am I missing something here?
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@vic_matt89277 @vlads1776 @Quilters_Dream1 Not a console player. I just dont like underpowered overpriced pcs
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@G00BLEG00BLE @vlads1776 @Quilters_Dream1 Having the ability to own both boggles the console owners mind
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