nah

@vic_matt89277 @vlads1776 @Quilters_Dream1 Not a console player. I just dont like underpowered overpriced pcs

@G00BLEG00BLE @vlads1776 @Quilters_Dream1 Having the ability to own both boggles the console owners mind

@Yaxaan @RyanROHanlon @TychoBrahe While price is marginal, performance difference is unreal. SM is way too underpowered

@G00BLEG00BLE @RyanROHanlon @TychoBrahe Laptop looks like shit in a tv stand though. There’s definitely an argument for a custom PC with a small case but the price difference is marginal at that point I think

I don't want to be a dick or whatever, but the Steam Machine is a computer. It's a fucking computer, guys

@dearg_amadan @Thirteenthsteps Why go so small when slighlty bigger pc gives double the performance for about the same price?

@G00BLEG00BLE @Thirteenthsteps Now do that but in a 6x6 cube.

Somehow "build me a really nice pc for the same price as the Steam Machine got translated into "build me a midrange shitbox that cant compete on quality or size."

@DruidofNecro @chair421 @sofxol @DeltaWave0x Go look at the steam hardware yourself. Any card above a 7600m is more powerful than SM. SM is at around 40th percentile.

@chair421 @G00BLEG00BLE @sofxol @DeltaWave0x Did 70% of steam users pay $1100 for their rig?

"I have better PCs laying around my house" *aggressive "you're not the target audience" sign tapping*

@registernoname @cybercpu @TechGeekAnthony Do you really think valve is paying full retail price for the SoC that comes with last year budget cpu or gpu? If it cost me $900 to build something similar it probably costs valve 60% percent of that. Valve is making bank

@G00BLEG00BLE @cybercpu @TechGeekAnthony I as one who works in chip company can confidently say, even current pricing is a financial loss for Valve. They don't coin in the 3 years of R&D expenses.

For those wondering what's wrong with the Steam Machine. I'll make a small list... -Price to Performance is out of whack. (Aka it's overpriced and you can build a cheaper similar system) -The Steam Machine is a open ecosystem instead of closed. (More on my reasoning in the comments) -Not including a Steam Controller anyways with its ridiculous base price. -The Hardware is already out of date. -Not subsidized even a little bit to make it more available to gamers (Valve would have STILL made a massive profit even if the Steam Machine were to be subsidized. Valve takes almost a %30 cut of almost every game. They could easily afford to lose $200–$300 on every physical box sold, because a single active gamer can easily generate that much revenue for Valve. Valve makes BILLIONS via game sales and live services and DLC. It's more profitable than Apple, Google, Microsoft and/or Netflix.) As much as I love Valve. I cannot defend this piece of junk. Sorry not Sorry.

@secretDog124 @Eeevee_ @N1ght_Livit @SirActionSlacks pcpartpicker.com/list/nCD2xf Should be almost about double

@G00BLEG00BLE @Eeevee_ @N1ght_Livit @SirActionSlacks I'm not defending the price, nor planning to buy it, but saying you could double the performance for the same price is quite stupid

VALVE: unfortunately we need to delay the launch because hardware prices are insane thanks to Ai GAMURS: PLZ launch :( V: ok but ram makes it pretty expensive there's not much we can do G: WTF why is this EXPENSIVE why are u GREEDY V: ...because of the ram G: I HATE YOU

@PhotogenicMem Why would people buy a outdated pc that thermal throttles when they can just buy current Gen desktops or laptops? Also I thought the whole point was to get people to steam ecosystem where steam gets 30% just like ps5 Xbox Nintendo. It is just a bad product at a bad price

Also, Steam Machine is just a PC. They can’t subsidize the cost of a PC, otherwise anyone who wants a computer at that spec would just buy their box, with Valve eating much of the cost of it. This isn’t a console scenario where they help you into their walled garden.

@Black_D_Gamer1 SM has the same amount of cables as a regular pc. Power, hdmi or display port. You must be real dense to fall for this

This is what the PC Mustard Race expects people to do, with stronger PC's, with RTX 6090's....

@secretDog124 @Eeevee_ @N1ght_Livit @SirActionSlacks What point are you really trying to make? Also why are you defending a company who is selling their consumers outdated tech that throttles? You don't own valve your loyalty. Not to any company

@G00BLEG00BLE @Eeevee_ @N1ght_Livit @SirActionSlacks Why aren't you selling your pcs for half the price? I'm sure people would be interested in buying them!

@Dynamite_Derek @TychoBrahe It is an outdated tech out of the box that performs worse than a 6 years old ps5. Can't run games that came out in the last 2 years properly

@TychoBrahe Yeah but it's a tiny computer, it's like a tiny god

@SoulioMolio @TychoBrahe That is worse than a 6 years old ps5 and thermal throttles?

@TychoBrahe Yeah but have you considered

@RyanROHanlon @TychoBrahe And those people should just buy a pc or a laptop and a controller instead of buying outdated tech

@TychoBrahe Yeah. Sadly, to get noticed, people have to be performative. Which means overreacting and being insincere and publishing that. Or espousing their solution to what they think is the problem. Steam machine is just a niche product for people who want to play their pc game on couch

@Zomby2D @vlads1776 @Quilters_Dream1 I didn't tell you to buy one. I said keep licking it good boy. Be careful I just saw some teeth

@G00BLEG00BLE @vlads1776 @Quilters_Dream1 I'm not buying it either. Im just not a whiny little cuck about it.

@Zomby2D @vlads1776 @Quilters_Dream1 I will stop whinning as long as you keep licking that valve boot. Nice and easy. No teeth, you don't wanna scratch it

@G00BLEG00BLE @vlads1776 @Quilters_Dream1 Then don't buy it and stop whining

@Zomby2D @vlads1776 @Quilters_Dream1 Doesn't change the fact that it is a shitty product at a shitty price....

@G00BLEG00BLE @vlads1776 @Quilters_Dream1 It was always an option, no one is forcing anyone to buy this particular one if they don't like it.

@vlads1776 @Zomby2D @Quilters_Dream1 No it is not. If you knew anything about pcs you wouldn't be saying that

@G00BLEG00BLE @Zomby2D @Quilters_Dream1 It is about the same performance as similar form factor pre builts around the same price

@VisserMatt12345 @SirActionSlacks pcpartpicker.com/list/wsyKqd This is what is in the SM roughly in an all in one form since it is a custom format . If it costs me $946, it probably cost valve $650-750 due to bulk pricing. You dont know what you are talking about

@G00BLEG00BLE @SirActionSlacks Dude, what are you smoking? All the tech hardware guys have been CRUSADING against it from the moment they announced the specs last year. All the money complainers look and sound stupid for not knowing how retardedly priced components are right now. This is not as you described.

@Eeevee_ @N1ght_Livit @SirActionSlacks It is not a decent gpu when it is getting beaten by a 6 years old ps5. And valve is definitely making bank from the SM since they are not paying full price for left over apus and gpu from last gen.

@G00BLEG00BLE @N1ght_Livit @SirActionSlacks No they're not, but they're also not gaining anything on the hardware. they also have contracts pre ram price hike. try fitting a decent gpu in a 6x6x6 box, with acoustics as decent as the steam cube. a better equivalent is not pc part picker, give me a mini itx prebuilt.

@secretDog124 @Eeevee_ @N1ght_Livit @SirActionSlacks Wow you understood nothing from what I typed. Are you always as dense as right now?

@G00BLEG00BLE @Eeevee_ @N1ght_Livit @SirActionSlacks Buying one is completely optional, you know? Start selling your own pcs

@Zomby2D @vlads1776 @Quilters_Dream1 If it is a pc, it is a shitty one that gets destroyed by all of the pre-builts around the same price. Just buy a real "pc".

@G00BLEG00BLE @vlads1776 @Quilters_Dream1 The Steam Machine is a PC