@gravityfaults @TheUfoJoe does the book mention the provenance of this document? Is it from Tim Cooper's collection?
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Alleged CIA document published in Jonathan Kaplan's "Not For Disclosure" discussing a meeting held by the "Advanced Contact Group" at Holloman AFB in 1953.
This is decade prior to the alleged landing, but seems related. @TheUfoJoe mind asking Eric Davis about this?
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@IWANTTOKNOWUK @planethunter56 “Gilbert’s” work attempting to communicate psychically with the being
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Jacques Vallée at CITD: “We have at least one alien being and we are working with that being to builld a language between us.”
I got a feeling that he is working also with one Dr. Iya Whiteley, who is literally a space psychologist developing an “earth language.”
Quote via @UAPReportingCnt
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You‘re the one bringing up my books bro. I mean thanks for the promo but I never mentioned them all day. Also you need to keep up, the term of art these days is not SETI but technosignatures. That and biosigs/ astrobiology is mostly what book was about… you know… science.
Garry P. Nolan@GarryPNolan
@AdamFrank4 You want to use the weight of academia to support writing a book on "aliens" or to sell your book. Then, at least, do some actual research on the matter (SETI is not relevant here). Expect push-back when you post opinions rhetorically designed as "conclusions" to ridicule.
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Is @JeremyCorbell accusing @LtTimMcMillan and @Debriefmedia of being a CIA cut out?
I'm looking forward to the evidence he brings forth (beyond an anti-Lazar bias).
Is this where the phrase 'Shape the Emerging UAP Narrative' comes from?
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@LilMissMorpho Yes. A group of women was approached unknown to them by a dead reverse engineering guy (same dead to all of them) and THE ONLY common feature I could see is they interact with me in person, DMs and follow each other etc.
My history makes me cautious because this is an op.
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Women of X interested in the phenomena, especially if you know me, you are under attack.
Not for anything you did. I apologize this has happened. I tell you this because I will not stop the path I am on. I will serve those I feel I can serve if I may.
This is born from a feminist mother who never used the term. I honor her life because she gave her best years to me and shaped from on the spectrum bookworm to an ego death empath.
Here is my advice
1) block unknown men who you have n connection with and are inquisitive and you can’t understand why
2) never go alone to meet one of these jokers.
3) sleep alone unless you know everything about them.
I pray I insult no one and those who need to listen.
If you think this applies to you and given you know me, I will not hold it against you if you unfollow and no longer interact.
This statement is my duty and it is the ethical thing to do.
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@GrantLavac yes no shortage of material for you. Don't forget to add Greer and Corbell to your list
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@TheUfoJoe these are fair questions.
it's nice that Greenewald is willing to be the 'jackass' so you and others don't have to. Some pushback is healthy.
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We all want evidence of everything. But Greenewald is insinuating that Dylan is lying. He's done the same with Eric Davis and I think also with Grusch. Jackass.
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@FiresOfTruth score one for the evidence-seekers, over the story-accepters
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John Greenewald, Jr.@theblackvault
I sincerely thank you for your thoughtful response. I will admit, it's a rarity to actually get a response when asking questions about people's claims. So for that, I thank you. So you are aware, I absolutely did what you recommended. After I saw your message, I sat down and submitted 7 FOIA requests to DoW (processes AARO related records) and to ODNI (processes ICIG related records) on various angles of all this digging in numerous ways. They will likely combine them when processing, but I tried to break them up by complexity, wherein some cases will yield results easier than others, at least, that was the intent. They will likely aggregate them, though, but I will fight those battles. You have my word that I will pursue to the best of my ability any supporting evidence to your claims and post 100% of what I receive. May I ask one final question, should they argue Privacy Act exemptions: I am not interested in any of your personal information within any of these records, but, they may try to cover up EVERYTHING arguing privacy exemptions since this is your PERSONAL testimony. Should they do that, and it comes up with a legal path to do so, would you sign a privacy act waiver in order to bypass those exemptions and release the information that does not cross into national security exemption territory (nothing we do can thwart that). It's simple and straight forward, but it would need your permission. I'd pay any fees, including to get your signature notarized, if it is needed. Would you be interested in doing that?
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@why_here_again @ADelarge60 @Pewpew841 Thanks. I hope you can appreciate why the optics are confusing, even under the paper trail theory.
That same person was CC'd over multiple emails and multiple months. It's hard to believe there was no implicit endorsement of what happened, even if it didn't reach up to Stratton.
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@HackTheSim @ADelarge60 @Pewpew841 His "Navy counterparts" didn't participate because they didn't know what he was trying to do since they weren't Stratton who was the guy running the working group
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@why_here_again @ADelarge60 @Pewpew841 But the email was 2 weeks before he resigned. His Navy counterparts could have chosen not to play along. My point though, is they were looped in to the subterfuge.
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@HackTheSim @ADelarge60 @Pewpew841 No, that was Elizondo creating a paper trail for his forthcoming lies claiming he led a UAP program for nearly a decade, as he then stated on stage a couple weeks later. He planned this in advance, knowing Greenwald etc would run to FOIA
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@ADelarge60 @why_here_again @Pewpew841 *people* from OSD and Navy. I don't care what you call it.
I wasn't arguing with you about the unofficial nature of it. But if you want to go there, Lacatski was out of the loop anyway by 2015 and on the verge of retirement.
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@ADelarge60 @Pewpew841 The Pentagon had nothing to do with AATIP as it was solely an ONI working group started and run by Stratton since it was literally his job to deal with aerospace threats/objects for the Navy
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@TimothyAlberino @MiddleOfMayhem if you're going to lecture us about the "physical experience" then there better be some physical evidence
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@MiddleOfMayhem This statement betrays an ignorance of the abduction phenomenon. Many abductees have attempted to capture their abductors on camera but the equipment is always remotely disabled by the grays before they show up.
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Alien abduction has not stopped. It is not "astral" or "spiritual." It continues to be a profoundly physical experience.
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@HackTheSim @Noah_A_S @steVengeance_ @RedPandaKoala If he did it in Stratton's presence, it probably would have ended this farce of Elizondo claiming to have run the program early on since Stratton had no idea he was lying for years. Why would the guy whose literal job it was to investigate UAP work for a security manager?
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Luis Elizondo says history will either remember him as a "patriot" or "the biggest villian in history"
What is he referring to that would make him remembered as "the biggest villian in history"?
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@why_here_again @Noah_A_S @steVengeance_ @RedPandaKoala Did Elizondo ever introduce Stratton as his 'deputy' (while in Stratton's presence)? Because that would certainly lead to some ambiguity, if true.
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@ParaN_rmal Forbidden Science 3. I think that conference is when the photo was taken, but I could be wrong.
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@HackTheSim interesting, whats the book source?
i know Puharich had a thing for copper
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show me a crew that goes harder than this
Andrija Puharich, Jacques Vallee, John Keel & Jacobo Grinberg
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in a new Liberation Times interview LUE ELIZONDO asks - "Why hasn't anybody asked about MJ-27?"
Liberation Times@LiberationTimes
NEW: Lue Elizondo: “There’s No Going Back” on UFO Disclosure liberationtimes.com/home/lue-elizo…
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