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I unironically love woke patriotism, I love appropriating the things chuds care about and turning them against them. Why should they get to own America, they're the ones who suck
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Kenan Perry 🟣
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Kenan Perry 🟣
@KenanPerry
The first openly gay failson 🏳️🌈✡️ Israeli-American and no happier about it than you are, he/him
San Francisco, CA Beigetreten Ekim 2013
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@DefendNoWave @narrenhut ...so therefore Israel must have assassinated her husband over a decade later? How do you figure?
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@narrenhut Yeah, it's totally normal that Erika Kirk was making movies for the CIA over a decade ago. Absolute nothing burger.
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A little "developing story" that I've been inadvertently following on here for some time now is The American Prospect's investigations editor (and co-founder of Jezebel) cracking up and going down a conspiracist rabbit hole. Rare to see an establishment-ish progressive doing this
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@DefendNoWave @Chens89 @narrenhut Interesting questions, how about you answer them and actually say what you think the significance of all of that might be
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@Chens89 @narrenhut Not as interesting a question as why an actor from a virtually unknown CIA film met with Charlie Kirk in Israel or how Charlie's mentor is a well known Scientologist. A Michael Aquino co-writer being on the TPUSA board sure is something though.
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@Howlingmerchant @narrenhut Do you think that Israel killed Charlie Kirk
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@narrenhut A good journalist to you is someone who never challenges the status quo and only parrots regime talking points
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@govt_mule @narrenhut What does that have to do with Charlie Kirk
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@narrenhut Speaking of "conspiracist rabbit holes", there are some sickos who believe Israel murdered a Swedish diplomat who saved thousands of Jews during the Holocaust just because he said that Palestinians should be able to return to their homes after a war.
How crazy is that?
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@jtrav1slogan @narrenhut What does that have to do with her politics?
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@narrenhut Moe Tkacik has never been an “establishment-ish progressive”; she’s always been extremely independent—I think working as a waitress for years even after founding Jezebel.
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@NeoSpinozan @cowboy_postbop And furthermore they say that not only is it impossible for anything anti-Zionist to be antisemitic, it's actually antisemitic to say that it could be antisemitic because you're "conflating Judaism with Zionism"
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@cowboy_postbop Ppl here now have this bizarre belief that as long as something is nominally antizionist, it’s in-principle impossible for it to be antisemitic. idk why that would be true
Similarly, real terrorism is in-principle impossible, always must be false flag! I don’t get that either
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I think this is true but also the amount of people on this site who were willing to pooh-pooh the seriousness of an actual, honest-to-god attempted synagogue bombing was Disconcerting, to say the least
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@firebat4689 @TrueSlazac @inkstainedlover @MarxoidNess It's literally a W for Israel, people like the Houthis would rather strengthen Israel than be less antisemitic at home
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@TrueSlazac @inkstainedlover @MarxoidNess Yes, they lived there for thousands of years and have only been kicked out *now* because they are suspected of loyalty to Zionism.
Another big L for Israel.
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if east and southeast asians held up a banner that said “curse on the japanese” during ww2 i wouldnt be particularly alarmed
Zac B 🇺🇦🇵🇸@ZacB_MN
Leftists will look you dead in the eye and tell you defending this is not anti-semitic
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@Resist9Rise @TrueSlazac @inkstainedlover @MarxoidNess "Jews are a threat because they might emigrate to Palestine and take part in the genocide of Palestinians, therefore we must expel them and force them to emigrate to Palestine" incredible
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@TrueSlazac @inkstainedlover @MarxoidNess Yeah because the very few who remain are still a potential threat. After most of them emigrated back then and took part in the genocide of Palestinians.
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@TrueSlazac @inkstainedlover @MarxoidNess Saudi Arabia and Israel are American outposts in the Middle East and Yemen has been subject to a horrible invasion by the Saudis for more than a decade so ofcourse they'd be pissed off at all of America's allies.
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@TamTamTammy3 @TrueSlazac @inkstainedlover @MarxoidNess A majority of Yemeni Jews left Yemen? Wow I wonder why
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@TrueSlazac @inkstainedlover @MarxoidNess A majority of the Jewish population of Yemen left the country in the 50s and 60s. You make it sound like this is a systemic thing affecting a huge group, the Houthi deportation affected less than 20 people. Yes it's a horrible thing to do but not on a huge scale.
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@aFar1s @TrueSlazac @inkstainedlover @MarxoidNess Antisemitism existed in Yemen before 1948 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mawza_Exi…
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@aFar1s @TrueSlazac @inkstainedlover @MarxoidNess Japanese internment was racist and rooted in racism
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@KenanPerry @maiamindel Nope. Not factually, morally, or legally.
Either you don't understand what "apartheid" means or you don't care.
Odd that you support Hamas when Hamas would throw you off a roof for being gay.
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the funny thing is that if the west bank isn't apartheid it's something much worse, like what do you call israel encouraging its citizens to go live in another country's territory in what is considered by all but one other country on earth a violation of international law
Aaron Regunberg@AaronRegunberg
So I wrote a post saying what’s happening in the West Bank is apartheid, and then Shai Davidai responded, and his “gotcha” argument for why it’s not apartheid is that actually Jews and Palestinians live apart from each other. Hmmm, I wonder how one might say “apart” in Afrikaans.
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@KenanPerry @davidsm72686794 @History__Speaks Okay, I guess we're all just here for an academic discussion of indigeneity.
Do you often debate the finer points of post-colonial theory?
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I would consider Armenians indigenous to Palestine, even as they descend from the south caucasus, because of their long unbroken presence there.
European Jews are clearly not. Completely different culture, etc.
Kegham Balian@kbalian90
The Armenian presence in Jerusalem has existed for over 1,700 years, continuously and uninterruptedly. My family alone has been in Jerusalem for more than a century. Counter offer: Why don't you go fuck yourself?
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@KenanPerry @StochasticStat1 @davidsm72686794 @History__Speaks You're telling us that Ukrainian Jews always wanted to taste back hummus ?
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@StochasticStat1 @noavic78 @davidsm72686794 @History__Speaks You really don't know anything if you think that Zionists are the only Jews who "identified with the Land of Israel"
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@KenanPerry @noavic78 @davidsm72686794 @History__Speaks Zionism was very much a minority viewpoint within the Jewish community in the early 20th Century. There were people who identified with the “Land of Israel,” but they were a distinct minority.
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@StochasticStat1 @History__Speaks @davidsm72686794 @TaliaRinger What is a Zionist? What is an anti-Zionist? None of these terms mean anything of use
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@StochasticStat1 @davidsm72686794 @History__Speaks Look at the thread: literally the first time in it when you even mention Palestinians is when you claim that that's what you were talking about all along, before that it's purely you going on about where you think Jews are or aren't indigenous to
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@KenanPerry @davidsm72686794 @History__Speaks Your assertion is that we're not discussing Israel and the Palestinians here?
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@StochasticStat1 @AleJohnson242 @davidsm72686794 @History__Speaks Nothing in that post has anything to do with Israeli treatment of Palestinians, it's purely quibbling on a historical basis about who is indigenous to where, why are you trying to tell me that you were saying the opposite of what you're literally showing me that you were saying
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@KenanPerry @AleJohnson242 @davidsm72686794 @History__Speaks If you look back at how I entered this discussion, you'll see that my point was that going back thousands of years to stake claims to land today is insane:
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@davidsm72686794 @History__Speaks I'm an Ashkenazi Jew, and my family lived in Eastern and Central Europe for as far back as I can trace. Saying we're indigenous to the Levant because 50% of our ancestors lived there 2000 years ago is just ideology. We have a much more direct, real connection to Europe.
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