Mark ✝︎ 🇺🇸

I can completely empathize with your point of view. I just understand that it’s delusional and unrealistic to expect everyone to act with benevolence and not self interest. Red is a vote for life, blue is a vote for death. Every extra red vote is another life saved. Those that survive rebuild.

@MoranRespecter @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus You don’t have an alternative view point besides your own survival being to most important outcome to you. You are the one who implied that if all the blue voters die, none of the red voters will care for the surviving children. That’s not a great look for you!

my only argument is that without blue button pressers we wouldn’t have communism or suicidal empathy or mass immigration or most of the problems afflicting humanity nowadays really

@notabotRachel @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus It’s not a trick question, the collective remainder of society has to figure out the problem you created. “Being a good person is valuable to me” - is it more valuable than being there to raise your children that survive? Is a bird in the hand worth more than two in the bush?

@MoranRespecter @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus Zero projection from me. Being a good person is valuable to me, I’m not ashamed of that, it’s interesting you cannot accept that. BTW, why can’t you answer your question? Who takes care of my children if I drop dead today? No idea at all?

@notabotRachel @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus It is really not worth my time trying to give you an alternative view point. You’re already activated into a projective state. For you now, I must be evil so you can protect your beneficient persona. Classic Jungian situation we are in

@MoranRespecter @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus It is, and it’s preferable to the opposite. You irrationally assumed that meant death for them in a poor attempt and manipulation, demonstrating you have no experience in real life. Who takes care of them? Surely you and your game theory logic know the answer?

@notabotRachel @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus Is the situation of you dying and your children not a possible result? Yes or no? If yes who takes care of them?

@MoranRespecter @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus For example: "Now your toddlers who saw candy red and biologically associated that with survival have no mother and die because there’s no one to take care of them. All so you could vainly moralize?" This is an unhinged attempt at emotional manipulation, lacking any basis.

@MetaPrime001 Have to be there to build it.

The highest manifestation of a healthy society is the successful raising of children and the creation of a bright future for them to inherit

@QuetzalPhoenix They won’t see it. I present to them, red is the positive pro life choice (you are literally choosing life), and they are befuddled thinking how can this be?! The inversion of everything has been too strong for too long.

"Let yourself and your family be killed, it is what Christ would have wanted" is the most serpent tongued luciferian lie I can think of.

Pacifism is Satanic

@megha_lilly People will project themselves onto anything. Carefully working beyond others egos is a craft and a truly profound skill for those that can achieve it. Often it will be necessary to be personal and leading, to form connections that can override the ego and touch the soul.

Here's a hard lesson I learned over ten years on twitter/X. How you make people feel with your writing is often more important than the information you convey. Because if people feel stressed out, belittled, weak or in despair after something you've put out in the world, even if what you said is technically correct, will it even have a good impact? There are good and bad ways to say true things.

@DeeperThrill You voted what you think I voted?

What do you think I voted?

You have no obligation to tell anyone how you voted 🔵 🔴

@SCHIZO_FREQ @questionableway they think it is strange because they are projecting their wish for death of the other on the red, something that the red has not done.

@questionableway Why? If blue wins by supermajority in all polls it matters even less than usual that they would vote red

last thing i’ll say about the button is that it’s pretty strange how few red voters change their position upon learning there is a substantial contingent of blue voters

@notabotRachel @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus Where am I angry?

@MoranRespecter @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus That’s your own projection, you’ve been so desperately angry. I’m comfortable with my choice and outcome. A) This isn’t a possible real world scenario because in the real world we can coordinate, you’re making up more nonsense.

Again, projection, I’m making calm points and you’re associating evil onto me. Why? Please answer A) How coordination problems work in the real world, in a worldwide scenario? B) is it better to be there for your children that survive against this common outcome to have a parent or not? You can raise them to be good, however you want but only if you survive the experiment. Do you really see no nuance in this? Do your really think all reds are purely selfish or evil? Why?

@MoranRespecter @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus I have children to think of, no need for the cereal aisle to make some BS. I addressed every possible outcome and made my choice, enough people did the same so that that we achieved the best possible outcome. Meanwhile you’re stuck in a loop of fury at us for choosing humanity.

You’re doing it again. Failing to address reality for moral shadow projection onto reds. The structure of the thought experiment is modeling coordination problems. Your naivety of the world and common outcomes of this problem in reality leads to your choice effectively being suicide. Biological associations of red are also prevalent, just visit the children’s cereal aisle.

@MoranRespecter @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus There’s no suicide and no coordination. There is the potential for murder though. You made up all that nonsense to justify yourself but there’s no need. We understand you chose yourself and forgot about the children or didn’t care. Why are trying so hard to vice signal?

So you commit suicide not understanding the common realistic outcome of these coordination problems. Now your toddlers who saw candy red and biologically associated that with survival have no mother and die because there’s no one to take care of them. All so you could vainly moralize?

@MoranRespecter @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus Oh I didn’t realize I could just hatch capable children, I assumed I had to birth babies and then raise them for several years. Is there an accelerated maturity option?

Except your solution requires a delusional leap of faith that when tested against reality fails repeatedly. When you pick the impossible solution over the achievable one, solely to save your unintegrated ego, you aren’t a good person, you’re just telling yourself you are because you think about a zero stakes version of a dis-reality. Don’t get mad being called out over basic reasoning.

@ChrisHowald @BlackDumpling Except your solution requires 100% global adherence to work, an impossibility When you pick the impossible solution over the achievable one solely to save yourself, you aren't a good person. Don't get mad for being called out over basic logic

Publicly announcing I'm not responsible to keep stupid people alive doesn't confront me much. If you select the Blue button you do solely and exclusively to create a responsibility in others to preserve your life for you when you won't do it for yourself. That's not moral. You force an unnecessarily gutwrenching choice onto others just so you can smugly tell yourself you're their superior because you'd super duper save them if the places were reversed when... NO, you're the only creating risk for others to begin with. You had a chance to save everyone BY PICKING THE RED BUTTON. You elected instead to create a nightmare scenario for others. No one is compelled to press the blue button. No one. It is purely voluntary. Which means if you did you KNOWINGLY created a scenario where other people would have to risk death just to save you. You made the least moral choice possible and if you're willing to create a scenario that risks murdering billions then I have zero problem letting you go.

@PwnzAll @minordissent Is an affluent and online American audience representative in a global experiment?

@MoranRespecter @minordissent A 100k is a very high sample size for any social study, I wouldn't be surprised is someone did their dissertation from data found here It would need similar data spanning across 50-80 year span but I believe the willingness to volunteer in War would be the data point

If I thought there was a very high chance blue could get over 50% IRL, I would vote blue and save the bluecels (bless their hearts). Perhaps this could happen in a high trust ethnostate. But in America I guarantee you you're never getting close to 50% blue, in which case i'm not needlessly committing suicide and thus voting red.

It was fascinating to read where it sourced its basis for the answer it gave you, and how it made assumptions based on others moralizing vanity. “The “blue or die together” romanticism only feels virtuous in safe, wealthy, low-stakes environments where the worst realistic outcome is “society gets a bit more distrustful.””

@runequantum @IterIntellectus Here I got your grok to flip hard by removing the modern moralizing and grounding it in the real world experiment… grok.com/share/c2hhcmQt…

@ivishaltejwani I feel bad every time someone asks for a PC at work. How do they live in such a shallow world where they've never experienced a good/functional computer?

I had to use windows today When I finally got to use my mac almost felt emo, how are people even thinking of windows