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Orthodox Christian@OrthodoxChrist2·
@5Solas2 Why are you quoting someone who, by your own “reformed” criteria, is burning in hell for being a Mary-worshipping cannibal? 🤔
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5 Solas@5Solas2·
Is there anything God created that is inherently evil? Or is it only their disordering and misuse that is evil?
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Orthodox Christian@OrthodoxChrist2·
@WWUTTcom So according to your legalism, you can’t record any church service because it might be “seen by others”. Better take down all those John MacArthur and RC Sproul videos you people watch. And if you’ve ever recorded one of your church services, be sure to burn the camera.
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Mikale Olson@realmikolson·
@gay_lumberjack @grayce_notes I do, actually. It’s called the Bible. You have access to it as well. It tells us exactly the kind of worship God requires, and exactly the kind of worship he despises.
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Orthodox Christian@OrthodoxChrist2·
@realmikolson What is “performative” about this? Seems to me like that’s just another buzzword you people throw around that means “Catholic bad”.
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Orthodox Christian@OrthodoxChrist2·
@LethalHoliness @Truth_matters20 It’s interesting, the ancient Nestorian church (Church of the East), which is still around, has more respect for Mary than many evangelicals do 🤷‍♂️ That’s saying something.
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Into The Furnace@LethalHoliness·
@Truth_matters20 @Truth_matters20 over here committing serious errors and heresy. Rejecting “what some council said” and yet your Bible comes out from church councils. You can’t just pick and choose what you want. Hell awaits for people with your kind of mindset.
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Jessica@swamthetiber25·
Mary is not the mother of the Father. Mary is not the Mother of the Spirit. Mary is the mother of the Son- who is fully God. Mary is the mother of God. This was settled in the council of Ephesus in the 400s.
Giorgis SR@GeorgeR64520

@swamthetiber25 The Holy Spirit is God. Mary is not His mother. So Mary is not the mother of God. See how it works?

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Orthodox Christian@OrthodoxChrist2·
@Truth_matters20 Jesus is fully God and full man. At the same time. Not half God and half man, not man sometimes and God at others… fully God and fully man. If you deny Mary is the Theotokos, the God-bearer, you deny the incarnation.
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Orthodox Christian@OrthodoxChrist2·
@David_wthebeard No. I don’t think I will. I’ll save the steak for when its time to feast. So since being anti-Catholic is your entire personality, when Catholics feast for Easter, are you gonna go vegan and loudly brag about it? Gotta be consistent in your “if Catholics do it, its bad” shtick.
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David@David_wthebeard·
It's Friday. Eat meat!
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Orthodox Christian@OrthodoxChrist2·
@Truth_matters20 So by your logic, filming any church service is a violation of Matthew 6 right? Does this include your hero John MacArthur? If you were consistent in your legalism, you’d say “yes”.
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Patrick Crow@Patrick_Crow7·
@OrthodoxChrist2 @jbendery Normally it’s billed as Ecumenical with Catholic, Orthodox and Protestants. Most Catholics and Orthodox still attend their own. But lovely? It’s usually some dude in a suit or Class As delivering a sermon
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Jennifer Bendery@jbendery·
NEW: The Pentagon today invited more than 3,500 employees to attend a Good Friday service at its in-house chapel. Except it’s only for Protestants, not Catholics. huffpost.com/entry/news-liv…
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Protestia@Protestia·
Hundreds Thousands of Ethiopian Christians gather for Easter
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Orthodox Christian@OrthodoxChrist2·
@Jennife60581927 Not sure how they do it at Catholic Churches but for Orthodox Churches it’s pretty much non-stop daily services from Palm Sunday to Pentecost!
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Orthodox Christian@OrthodoxChrist2·
@Maracus57 @swamthetiber25 The punishment for sin is death, which is what Christ bore. He did not bear any additional “wrath” on the cross and He did not become the Father’s punching bag.
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Dreamoftheendless@Maracus57·
@swamthetiber25 It's biblical and the truth. What is the alternate view? What did an excruciating death on the cross achieve precisely in your view? Why was it necessary? What did it contribute to our salvation? God's wrath is real. Jesus is out only shield.
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Orthodox Christian@OrthodoxChrist2·
@taco_talks We Orthodox ignore the Catholic Eucharistic miracles and don’t care if they’re real or not. We still believe the Eucharist is the true Body and Blood of Christ. Now what?
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Orthodox Christian@OrthodoxChrist2·
@tmontanarealty @taco_talks Exactly. Christ’s death on the cross was a fulfillment of the Old Testament sacrifices. An innocent being offered up for the sins of the people. God didn’t beat the heck out of the sacrificial lamb while it was on the alter, before the priest put it out of its misery.
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Tony M@tmontanarealty·
@taco_talks The Old Testament sacrificial system was based on vicarious atonement and the release of life giving power from the blood, not penal substitution. One drop of Christ's Blood could save infinite worlds. His death was the ultimate expression of His love for creation.
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Orthodox Christian@OrthodoxChrist2·
@swamthetiber25 Jesus did indeed bear the punishment for sin, as a pure and blameless sacrifice… the punishment for sin is *death*. The Father did not inflict additional punishment onto Christ and turn Him into a punching bag.
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Jessica@swamthetiber25·
Taco won’t bother addressing any of these I’m sure… Problems with the Penal Substitution Atonement theory (PSA): PSA implies opposition between Father and Son, contradicting Trinitarian doctrine: the three Persons share one undivided essence, will, and love, acting in perfect harmony. The idea of the Father turning against the Son in wrath fractures the seamless unity of the Triune God. God cannot simply forgive out of love but instead requires a violent sacrifice to satisfy His anger or justice. This makes forgiveness conditional on punishment rather than a free, merciful act. PSA can suggest God is constrained by a higher principle of retributive justice that even He must satisfy, limiting divine freedom and portraying Him as less sovereign or merciful than Scripture depicts. If the just penalty for sin is eternal separation from God, as some suggest, how could Jesus’ finite suffering, hours on the cross, followed by death and resurrection after three days, possibly pay that full, infinite/eternal penalty? PSA portrays God as punishing the innocent. Justice requires that only the guilty face punishment, and guilt cannot be transferred. Yet in PSA, Christ— perfectly innocent—is punished for humanity’s sins, making God appear unjust. Old Testament sacrifices weren’t about transferring punishment from the guilty to an innocent victim. They were mainly about purification and restoring the relationship with God. The Passover lamb, for example, wasn’t punished for sin; it was eaten as a sacred meal. The New Testament wouldn't break from the Old Testament typology of what sacrifices accomplished. Penal substitutionary atonement was largely absent from the early Church and only became prominent after the Reformation. Even medieval theologians like Anselm, who spoke of Christ satisfying what was owed for sin, did not promote the idea that Christ received punishment from the Father. That idea developed very late in Christian history. Scripture shows death as the result of turning from God, not a punishment he imposes. If death is a consequence, not a penalty, there is nothing for Christ to “take” in our place. He enters death to defeat it, freeing humanity from sin and restoring our life with God, not simply satisfying a legal sentence. objections: Propitiation: The New Testament word hilasterion, often translated “propitiation,” can mean cleansing or the mercy seat rather than appeasing God’s wrath. Romans 3:25 emphasizes Christ removing sin and restoring fellowship with God, not satisfying a legal penalty. The Bible never says Christ was punished by the Father to satisfy divine wrath, so PSA reads ideas into the text that were never there. Isaiah 53 Isaiah 53 is a central prophecy for defenders of penal substitutionary atonement, yet it is often taken out of context. Nowhere in Isaiah does it say that the Father is punishing Christ. Verse 4 tells us that although he “bore our griefs and carried our sorrows, yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted.” Reworded, this reflects humanity’s perception that he is afflicted by God, not that God has actively punished him. Verse 5 says, “by his stripes we are healed,” not “by his stripes the Father is appeased.” A literal translation from the Septuagint makes this even clearer: “The one our sins bore and on account of us he was grieved. And we considered him to be a misery, and for calamity by God, and for ill-treatment. But he was wounded because of our sins and was made infirm on account of our lawless deeds.” Isaiah 53, properly read, is a prophecy of Christ’s healing and restorative work, emphasizing his solidarity with human suffering and the redemption he brings, rather than a narrow focus on satisfying divine wrath.
Taco_Talks@taco_talks

Translation: “I hate the Bible. Now let me explain that I don’t actually understand PSA”

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Orthodox Christian@OrthodoxChrist2·
@Protestia Cool video but Easter isn’t until next week for the Ethiopian church.
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