John Owen

@gbtangus @mopaksus Couple winter bills and some bulls yes. Figure summer grass too. Still isn’t adding up to that amount for me. Subtract the winter bill for the cow sold in the fall the heifer is replacing. Winter is pretty cheap for us, no grain and out on grass as soon as possible.

@Redcows4ever @mopaksus Heifer calves don’t make a return, so for this discussion of productive cows versus bringing in heifers to replace, they need to be valued once they are at a productive state(calving). There is a real expense involved, getting them to that productive point.

What’s with folks posting about their geriatric cow and her umpteenth calf? I like to keep my herd young, sell the cow while she still has some value.

@gbtangus @mopaksus Helps some, still really high estimates imo. I want to know where you’re marketing heifer calves though!

@Redcows4ever @mopaksus Sorry, I’m talking CAD. Conversion to USD is $5800 ish.

@gbtangus @mopaksus Ok, still don’t add up to anywhere near 8 thou.

@Redcows4ever @mopaksus Well, if we want to play the opportunity cost thing on the back end, we better not forget that equation on the front end.

@gbtangus If she’ll get to 10 I’m satisfied. Folks running them to upper teens is what I’m talking about.

@Redcows4ever We do it to move the genetic needle on what is perceived as “old”. Producers would be infinitely more profitable if the new “old” was 10, not 5 or 6. If you don’t select for it, you’ll never achieve it. Some people don’t understand this.

@gbtangus @mopaksus I’ll bite, 8k? How on earth is it costing you that much? We breed 300 plus heifers every year and I think it’s a lil cheaper than that.

@Redcows4ever @mopaksus Not much…like about $8k. Then add in the extra management to continue developing them vs a cow that is on coast and is bought and paid for. A cow that is a proven producer is also a lot less risk than a new heifer too.

@coffee_anytime I wouldn’t eat anything from someone who wears pajamas during work hours.

I have to try this!!! Has anybody ever had it on here?

@mopaksus Doesn’t cost much to keep a few heifer calves and breed them.

@Redcows4ever Costs too much to replace a cow who consistently has calves unassisted. Cows will stay around here to 15+ consistently

@CattleMafia No thanks. Rather sell a 10 year old bred cow and replace her with a home grown heifer than buy a bunch of old junk and suckle calves all spring.

@Redcows4ever So your saying buying a apx 15yo cow that calves for 1000 bucks is bad. 😂 wean and make a killing.

@kmerle7 Right? At some point all you’re gonna have is a bag of bones with a hungry calf at best.

@Redcows4ever Bought this cow as a 5 year old in my first group of cows I ever purchased. Was always a lead cow rotating pastures. Raised me 7 good calves in a row but this year her calf didn’t make it. She was worth $2800 as a cull cow. I don’t understand wanting them to die at your place.

@newtexplicit They are valuable as short term cows to someone. Sell her when she has a few good years left and replace her with a heifer.

@Redcows4ever They will have calves until they can’t. If they are breed they are valuable.

@Trent815 So keep her heifer calves then and replace her with them. A bunch of cows gets old pretty fast if you’re not making room for younger better performers.

@Redcows4ever Its a sign of good fertility and longevity that they can stay in the herd that long. Good genetics to keep heifers from.

@speerman42 So are short term cows.

@Redcows4ever If she’s bred. She stays. Calves are worth a lot of money

@happy__beef 9-10 here

@Redcows4ever We sell at 11 years old 😐🎬

@silagechopper What a unit!

Fixing a couple crossings in the calving pasture. Getting to be about that time here.

@sparkycowboyCO @ThoughtCrimes80 Priorities I guess 🤣

@ThoughtCrimes80 Might have been a better use of the money she spent on tattoos…

I have never seen anyone with two rows of upper teeth before. 👀

@AngelinaReagan7 Snatch

Comment a movie with an awesome sound track?? I’ll start…Purple Rain ☔️

@WeaponsVault Or potentially innocents catching the wild strays

All that extra stuff just to miss or jam.

@KyMitch83 Sold the last of our 8 and 9 year olds today. Hope the buyer gets a few more good years out of them.

14 year old cow with her 12th calf. Just keeps doing her job!

@KamikaziKoala @scottwestacre It does unless the stupid heifer never mothered the carcass.

@scottwestacre Hide off the dead one works 100% of the time for us.

Headed out to pasture. Lost a calf this morning so will try to graft this gal onto a new mom. - haven’t had lots of success but it’s better than 50/50