Reid Bates

@MadnessWes47898 @Justin6Bradley @residentreformr No, check your feelings for a moment, and be honest with yourself. WHAT IS THE BASIS OF YOUR ACTIONS? We all believe you are coming not from a place of LOVE, but of ANGER.

@Justin6Bradley @residentreformr Wrong. Love is honesty. It is hateful to bite your tongue and allow people to take a path to hell. Would rather be hated now, temporarily, loved in eternity, than the opposite. Childish take on your part

I’d like to be clear: I don’t hate Mormons. I reject the Mormon religion as an affront to Christ and His church. It denies the very nature of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It’s polytheistic, polygamous, and works based. It exalts good works above the finished work of Christ. Exalts man to become a god. It’s a continuation of the very first lie ever told: “But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” Genesis 3:4-5. However, I would love for every Mormon to reject their religion, turn and trust in the true living Savior. Repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. We all should be praying for such an outcome.

@DM_Blackwall @Godfath63510119 @LibertyEthics I don’t know how much you paid for your anti-Mormon indoctrination, but you need a refund.

@Godfath63510119 @LibertyEthics The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints believe in a false god, a false prophet, and a false gospel, all introduced in the Book of Mormon. Not a single word is true. You honor your god, the father of lies.

My thing on this has nothing to do with hating on Mormons. It's just total bafflement at the argument that they're Christians. They're just... not. They're not even monotheists! Their god is not the God that created the universe. They deny the Trinity. I could go on. Just, stop.

@Thatbrian @Mormonger You are either seriously misinformed or woefully ignorant but you don’t need to remain that way. Being sealed to another woman, including the wife of another man did not mean he would have sex with them. Get your mind out of the gutter.

@ReidBates6 @Mormonger Fallen men would rather follow a religion completely fabricated by a man who just wanted to diddle other man's wives, than simply repent and believe.

Like Roman Catholics, Mormons just make stuff up: Magic underwear — Special temple garments worn 24/7 under clothes that they believe protect them from Satan and physical harm. Golden plates and the Book of Mormon — Joseph Smith said an angel gave him golden plates in “reformed Egyptian” that he translated by putting a seer stone in a hat. God was once a man — Heavenly Father used to be a mortal who progressed to godhood on another planet. Humans can become gods — Good Mormons can be exalted, get their own planet, and have spirit children for eternity. Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers — Both are literal sons of God the Father. No Trinity — God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are three completely separate gods, not one being. Total apostasy — Jesus’s original church vanished right after the apostles died, so everything else is fake until Joseph Smith fixed it. Planet Kolob — God lives near a star called Kolob. Garden of Eden in Missouri — Adam and Eve started out in Jackson County, Missouri. Baptism for the dead — They baptize living people in temples as proxies for dead ancestors so the

@Mormonger @Thatbrian Whoa! "Clean-up on Aisle B (for Brian)!"🧹🧽🪣

Is this meant to be an argument or just a list of things you think sound weird? 😂 "Mormons make stuff up" *lists a slew of lies* Let's get into it... "Magic underwear"? That's the intellectual level we're operating at? Religious garments exist in numerous faiths. Calling them "magic underwear" isn't a refutation; it's playground mockery. "Golden plates and a seer stone." Correct. Joseph Smith claimed revelation through unusual means. Christians believe God spoke through a burning bush, a donkey, dreams, visions, angels, and a resurrected corpse. If your standard is "sounds unusual," Christianity fails before Mormonism does. "God was once a man" and "humans can become gods." You apparently don't know that deification is a historic Christian doctrine. The idea that humans can participate in divine life predates Mormonism by centuries. The disagreement is about the nature and extent of exaltation, not whether the concept exists. "Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers." This is one of the favorite anti-Mormon talking points because it sounds shocking until you think about it for ten seconds. Traditional Christianity teaches Satan is a created being who derives his existence from God. LDS theology teaches Christ is the divine Son and Satan is a fallen being. The point isn't that they're equals. They aren't. "No Trinity." Correct. Latter-day Saints reject the Nicene formulation. That's a theological disagreement, not evidence of fraud. You actually have to argue why the Nicene model is correct instead of pretending its truth is self-evident. "Total apostasy." The New Testament repeatedly warns of apostasy, false teachers, corruption, and falling away. You can disagree with the LDS interpretation, but acting as if the idea appeared from nowhere only advertises ignorance of the texts. "Kolob." The Book of Abraham doesn't say God lives on Kolob. Critics repeat this because they know most people won't check. "Humans get their own planet." Not official doctrine. Again, critics repeat it because it gets laughs. "Baptism for the dead." Paul literally mentions people being baptized for the dead in 1 Corinthians 15:29. You may reject the LDS interpretation, but the practice is rooted in a biblical text, not thin air. Every religious worldview can be made to sound absurd through hostile wording. "Christians believe in eating the body of their God - they're a cannibalistic death cult." See how easy that is?

@dingustheding1 @FleabagMoroni @JackwagonJones @Thatbrian The Bible says there will be a falling away and a restitution of all things. Jesus said other sheep would hear His voice. Are you limiting a resurrected Jesus from visiting other people?

@FleabagMoroni @JackwagonJones @Thatbrian the fuck it does, IT EVEN EXISTING IS PROOF IT IS NOT i Bible is quite clear, the book of mor(m)on is a fan-fic written by a con-man who wanted to sleep around and pull in mad stacks of cash

Mormonism vs Christianity #1 : Who is Jesus Mormons: Jesus is a created being Latter-day Saints teach that Jesus is the firstborn spirit child of Heavenly Father (and a Heavenly Mother). All human spirits, including Jesus and Lucifer (Satan), are literal spirit brothers and sisters born in a premortal existence. Christians: Jesus is eternally God Historic Christianity teaches that Jesus is eternally God — uncreated, without beginning or end. He is the second Person of the Trinity: fully God and fully man. John 1:1-3: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

@fortunatus62560 @TravelbytheCoin @carleolson And smoking helps obesity. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Red wine helps break down food in your gut. 🫃 Etc, etc, etc. 🤦‍♂️ I think society would be better without the addicting nature of coffee, alcohol and tobacco.

@ReidBates6 @TravelbytheCoin @carleolson Coffee has many health benefits if you check online, but that is not the point. The point is that Jesus would not have performed a miracle at Cana to produce a substance that God would later ban. The same for StPaul’s recommendation. Joseph Smith lied, plain and simple.

Spent a few moments on the official LDS site. As expected, much vague pablum. This, however, caught my eye: "The Holy Trinity is the term many Christian religions use to describe God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. Latter-day Saints believe very strongly in all three, but we don’t believe they’re all the same person." Newsflash: No Christian believes they are the same person. This is either ignorance or worse.

@Sola_GPT Amazing!

Final synopsis

So many connections between the LDS temple ceremonies and early Christian practices! How did this all get forgotten over the years? Chat GPT was totally stoked about these connections 🤩 1/2

@1099Levant @ryanswalters73 Good one!

@ryanswalters73 Here’s a very big hint:

“If it were true that Mormonism is the ‘restored’ church, we would certainly expect to find evidence in the first century for such unique doctrines as the plurality of gods, men becoming gods, and God the Father having once been a man. But we do not find even a hint of any of these in ancient church history.” - Ron Rhodes

@retrob4u @ryanswalters73

@ryanswalters73 What about Proxy Sealings? Is that in James? Acts? Revelation maybe? Sounds more like it would be in Revelation.

@ztrussell @thecarrollfam7 @ryanswalters73 Who did he pray to and who was He with when Stephen was stoned?

“I and the Father are one.” Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?” “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”” John 10:30-33 Jesus very clearly claimed to be “one essence” (not merely purpose) with God. Everyone at the time understood it.

@Appeal2Heaven7 Ha! You abandoned the gospel of Jesus Christ in favor of the emperor-sponsored, man made creed developed 400 years after Christ.

Mormons: We are Christians. Christians: You don’t believe in the Trinity. Mormons: We do. Christians: Prove it. Mormons: The word Trinity isn’t in the Bible! Christians: So you don’t believe in it, thus you’re not a Christian. Repeat the conversation like a changing consumer habit at a traffic stop asking “what they did wrong.”

@BasedMikeLee @johnddavidson Yes, I agree. This week has devolved into the worst versions of Christians on both sides. What pharisaical gatekeeping it has become. Judgement day will come and we’ll know how just and merciful God is to all us Christians. Till then…

Okay Jesus Christ is God of the Old Testament He is the Lord, Savior, and Redeemer of the New Testament He lived a sinless life He performed countless miracles—raising the dead, turning water into wine, and feeding thousands with a few loaves and fishes He suffered in Gethsemane and later died on the cross He suffered and bled from every pore to pay the price of our sins He was resurrected three days later I know—pure heresy, right?

Given the vast theological differences between Mormonism and every Christian denomination, the burden here should be on the Mormons to argue why any reasonable person should categorize Mormonism as simply another Christian denomination.

@carleolson @TravelbytheCoin @FlownRedbird Do you hear yourself? “We do not confess three Gods but one God in three persons and each of them is God whole and entire.” How is this resolved in the NT?

Christians do not believe they are one person as the poster stated. Thus, incorrect. “The Trinity is One. We do not confess three Gods, but one God in three persons, the "consubstantial Trinity". The divine persons do not share the one divinity among themselves but each of them is God whole and entire…” (CCC 253)

@fortunatus62560 @TravelbytheCoin @carleolson The W.o.W. was revealed at a time before the medical benefits of it were fully understood. It’s been a big blessing and we enjoy remarkable health relative to our peers. Imagine the societal benefits if there was far less alcohol, tobacco and coffee consumed in the world.

@TravelbytheCoin @carleolson Why do Mormons follow the phony ‘revelation’ of the word of wisdom by fulfilling the Last supper once a month with mere water when Jesus turned water into wine at Cana and St Paul recommended wine to Timothy in 1 Tim 5:23?

@jackbenimble84 @RykerJackson97 Yes, and for those with ears to hear, he was a Prophet of God.

@RykerJackson97 Brilliant self help guru

“Rarely in the future will it be easy or popular to be a faithful Latter-day Saint. Each of us will be tested.” - President Russell M. Nelson

@ScottC1517 For me? It was first, faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Second, repentance. Third, baptism by immersion for the remission of sins. Fourth, laying on his hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

How did Christ save you from your sins?

@EricRSammons It’s all right here, bro. churchofjesuschrist.org/comeuntochrist

It’s amazing how much of Mormon apologetics consists in hiding their core beliefs from the public.

@chris_evans1776 @glennbeck Check the data, we are among the most educated religious adherents around. Yes, smart. You know those divine feelings you experience while reading the Bible? We feel that reading the Bible and the Book of Mormon, praying and attending church.

How can someone as (seemingly) smart as yourself believe a religion as wacky as the Mormon Church practices? I’m genuinely curious, because it just baffles me, and honestly it scares me that humans are so prone to, what looks to me like, brainwashing. I would guess that you were raised Mormon and never truly questioned it, and I could be wrong. I would love to hear your thoughts. And fyi, I’m Christian, and I am constantly learning and digging deeper to make sure I’m on the right track. I stick with Christianity because I can find no more perfect law for this world.

Last night, I got a call from President Trump. During the call, I asked about how the Pentagon had reclassified my faith. He said he would look into it. This morning, he told me it had been fixed. Thank you, President Trump. We can disagree on whether "Mormons are Christian." That's not what disturbed me about this. I don't want the GOVERNMENT classifying religions. That creates a dangerous tool that shouldn't be in the hands of ANY government. I don't believe that was Hegseth's goal. But what happens if the power shifts and the "Jesus was nonbinary" camp takes over? Will they recategorize conservative Christians? The Biden administration already tried to link Catholicism to domestic terror. If that possibility troubles you, then you understand my problem with this whole thing. I don't want the government to declare me a Christian. I want them to stay out of it.

@smith_john27963 @glennbeck Speaking of lies….. no Mormon puts Satan equal to Jesus nor do we believe he is anywhere near the Godhead. No need to lie about our beliefs.

@glennbeck It is true, you faith group should not have been kept off the list. But you are not Christians, simply because you equate Christ with the Father of Lies, Satan. They did not start out as brothers or anything like that. Jesus is part of the eternal Godhead. Satan is not.

@AmBeR081114 @itsforourday @gaptoothdummy I’m sure there maybe members who struggle with the Book of Mormon just like there are other Christians who struggle with Noah and the ark, floating axes, talking donkeys, etc. I’ve read the BOM >40 times and there is no better explanation for its existence than being divine.

@itsforourday @gaptoothdummy I come from a nice place,promise! My in laws married in the temple & husband requested a blessing last month fyi. I wonder if lds struggle with smith & the premise of the bom overall. Do u really need the bom to know Him? I can't get past that personally.

Mormons, you have Dirty Dr. Pepper at McDonald's now. You're having a moment. Enjoy it. Don't try to act like everyone hates you. The persecution complex is not fooling many of us. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this: >You either get to believe that God appeared to a 14-year old boy in the 1800s and told him that all of the religions were false and he should start his own. >Or you can believe the true Gospel and align with thousands of years of Christian tradition. Which is supported by archaeological evidence and testimony and the fruits of Christian orthodoxy. "Oh but we believe in Jesus Christ and that he died for us!" Sure, but you also believe that Satan was Jesus' brother. And that they're both the sons of God and that God is also a son of God and god has a wife and this goes on and on for all eternity. And that the Holy Ghost, God and Jesus Christ are *three distinct beings* united in purpose. So, POLYTHEISM. And a mountain of other absurdity.