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@handledotlove
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Beigetreten Kasım 2023
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@Sssebi It’s hard to be positive when all you see is bullshit by the founding entities. Grifting for more money, devs who grift their community for more money, a treasury being spent with no plan to pay it back, a founder who has gone full narcissist and price action that’s horrendous.
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🚨 Official Notice 🚨
Today we publicly announce we’re submitting a Cardano treasury withdrawal proposal to supply 7.5M ADA to our protocol.
The term is one year and the proposed full amount plus all yield will be returned to treasury.
Overview: 🛥️ @strikecardano/cardano-governance-proposal-sustainable-yield-for-the-treasury-31db26c4b681?postPublishedType=initial" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">medium.com/@strikecardano…

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@io_tilia Sorry, I was replying to the more general request rather than your solution. My worry would be stale data for dev content - even 1 year old content would be largely meaningless now - we need active feeds like AOS. As for apps, I believe they should do their own onboarding videos.
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@handledotlove You didn't read or I didn't explain it well😂
The youtubers have small audience. The idea is to keep them creating content because one day when people come they will need more information.
So it's not so much about the current reach but about not having a deserted place.
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@GavinMoores @joshlufc91 but they run it like an asset exchange, play hopeless failures like garnacho just to get him in the shop window. its a player flipping enterprise not a football club.
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@handledotlove @joshlufc91 Chelsea? They throw money like it's confetti. But isn't the goal of any business owner to make profit. Clubs can make a profit and be successful
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I'm not an accountant and don't want to slag them off... so are we skint or what?
Leeds United@LUFC
A message from Paraag Marathe
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@alelufc_ People think too much about managers. Leeds, like ManUtd & Chelsea have US ownership, hence a profit model not a success one. DF doesn't have the control people think. He was likely forced to pick Aaronson for commercial reasons. Top managers don't want these puppet-roles.
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@Paulwtadatsla @TheRealWeb3Kat We have killer defi projects - look at @strikeperps, the problem with usdcx is we have no liquidity - $50,000 for the usdcx/ada liquidity pool is laughably unserious.
That nobody with real capital is prepared to contribute to that pool speaks volumes.
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@TheRealWeb3Kat It’s not enough to just have stablecoins. There need to be killer DeFi applications that genuinely improve capital efficiency before institutions will be willing to come in. So you should pay more attention to those DeFi projects that are truly grinding and building.
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@Cardano_Power @IOHK_Charles @Cardano This is the same as the argument for excluding uneducated people from voting in an election. It fails because the educated will pass bills that favor them over the uneducated.
Ultimately the best form of governance is a king with a big stick... or robots with big frickin lasers.
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Dear @IOHK_Charles and @Cardano community
So we agree the current Cardano governance system does not work.
The main problem is that simple ADA holders lack the skill set of evaluating any technical proposal and instead vote with their emotions.
Solution???
How about this: elevate the voting value of certain groups with technical and strategic skills.
For example let an SPO vote be worth 2, 5, 10 times more than the vote of somebody who just happens to own ADA as an investment.
The I would add an obligatory paragraph in any proposal that asks for funding that needs to explain the envisioned economic impact of the approval and execution of said proposal.
Lastly, create an in-house Cardano forum where to discuss proposals instead of X.
And anyone who does not abide by rules of common decency gets paused to cool down and eventually blacklisted.
Anyone?
@ItsDave_ADA @NaVi_GaT0R @invalid_eutxo @adamKDean @AdamRusch @AdaFroggies @ADAFrog_Pool @ESCOweb3
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@IOHK_Charles @utxointern 🤦🏻♂️ please have some introspection - calling others "kids" is not the way decent men behave
you're a good man charles, i hope you find yourself again someday
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Let's take an inventory shall we:
Optim -> delegate and support fake fred and the slander campaign that said IOG stole hundreds of millions of dollars without any evidence
Iagon -> never said anything about them until they started bullying and harassing our midnight ambassadors to intimidate them into not supporting a funding proposal for one of their competitors
Cardano Whale -> he went nuclear after being proven wrong about the sovereign wealth fund and then left the ecosystem. We all lost tens of millions of dollars of profit and liquidity because of him
Dave -> lied about Midnight not pursuing a two way bridge to under that Midnight is a vampire attack on Cardano to drain value and liquidity
Rick -> don't have an issue with Rick. Sad he didn't back us on the CF issues but it is what it is
Adam -> don't have an issue, he just needs to stop being the perpetual everything is shit man. We work together well on projects like hydra doom and the vending machine
There is a pattern here. People lash out, get hit hard and then play the victim. Grow up kids
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Optim
Iagon
Cardano Whale
Dave
Rick
Adam Dean
@IOHK_Charles will literally attack & discredit anyone who doesn't fall into line, 100% of the time.
We have governance & decentralization, but it's with a gun to your head.
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@cnfTagz @CashAnvil Exactly, it's so massively depressing that we fail in the same way every time, regardless of technology. Greed, selfishness and bullying are traits we're all susceptible to - feels like humans are simply incapable of self-governance. Maybe we need machines to replace us after all
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That last paragraph sums up my entire perception of this ecosystem at this point. The rest is frankly irrelevant. I joined Cardano because Charles talked so highly of the idea that we could break away from the legacy systems and create something new, better and free of corruption. Yet it's the same lobbying, back door deals, "party" affiliations and slimy tactics used throughout history. The cypherpunk dream is basically dead at this point. It was a good try though I guess.
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Woke up to day 2 of a dumpster fire.
I really don't know why I try sometimes.
The thing that is going to happen to the researchers if IO's Research proposal doesn't get approved will be the same thing that happens to the community if it does.
It's not a hard concept.
People want transparency, they want rates, they want overhead costs. You can't sit here and and say you will have to fire everyone without also showing the costs.
It's a false reality, purely guilt driven, that gives the community nothing to stand on but to blindly vote yes. Several outspoke developers have spoken out for multiple years now on the Research stuff. I have not seen a single thing change. It's still a bloated docket.
My only question is why not listen? 2 years of feedback and seemingly none of it heard. Now we are at ultimatum point again. Instead of just working through the budgetary concerns and reproposing, we are met with vote for me or i quit. I hate it here. CF tried to do it too. It's such a weak move to me.
It's wild, where is the concession? Where is the willingness to work with dReps? Everything just seems so one sided. Where is the market awareness?
We are in the worst spot we have been in as a chain. Spent a shitload of ADA last year with no results. The community has the right to be mad, we have the right to ask questions, and we have the right to ask for more financial clarity or changes to the proposal. Everyone is supposed to be held to the same standard when it comes to the treasury.
I support IO, i think they are a critical part of the ecosystem that should be funded. I was happy to see the IO: Cardano Upgrades proposal get across this morning, albeit i still think costs could of been covered better in ALL IO proposals.
I love seeing the FEs getting back together and vote on all of eachothers proposals, that's a very cool thing and super decentralized. Thankfully our FEs still control enough power to push whatever they want over the line.
I'm probably killing my chances of my proposal with all this i just can't hold back any longer and watch the whole united states government system recreated on Cardano, by the same people who cry all the time about the US government being corrupt.
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@riccardoADA governance should never have extended beyond pizza toppings
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@henrywinter Neither will play, so taking Maguire just risks his ego and media connections disrupting the dressing room. Tuchel knows what he's doing - just look at the reaction, these same people would be expecting him to start in the WC - which he had zero chance of anyway.
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@Cerberus24000 @navir333 and emurgo? what did we get for our 2 billion ada? a light wallet?
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@navir333 IOG has built world class financial system, close to solving the block chain trilemma, ZK groundbreaking research, seamless liquid staking, scalability solutions for Cardano, world class researchers, new computer languages, etc. I tend about they used their Genesis. Not Free!
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@KTOP_Pool a very simple example of why sentiment is so catastrophically low
usdc support added 🥳
usdc/ada pool size - $42,000 💀
why build anything if we don't bother enabling it to increase on-chain volume?
science without usage is masturbation
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I understand what Charles wants to say.
Cardano came this far because for many years it chose research, verification, and first principles, not only short-term hype.
So if we cut research too much, I think it can be a big mistake. It can weaken one of the most important things that makes Cardano different.
But we also need to understand the community feeling.
In this market, and with ADA price much lower than before, $52M is a very big amount. Many people are worried, and I think that worry is fair.
So the proposers need to explain very clearly why this budget is needed, how it will be used, and what milestones the community can check.
We should protect Cardano’s research core.
But we also need transparency and trust.
And as always, I believe our community will find a good way to solve this difficult issue together🤞
Charles Hoskinson@IOHK_Charles
On Science x.com/i/broadcasts/1…
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チャールズさん、メッセージをありがとうございました。私はいかなる理由があってもIORの提案書は決して再提出されることはないことを確認しました。
私の考えではこの中のいくつかの研究はお金の無駄になる可能性が高いと考えていますが、LeiosやPerasや量子耐性などいくつかは必須です。私は分割されて再提出されることを願って、そのいくつかにYESを、そのいくつかのNOを投票したいと考えていました。
しかし、いかなる理由があってもIORの提案書は決して再提出されることはないことが確認できた今、DRepの現在の選択肢は次の2つで、その他の選択肢の交渉の余地はありません、全てを破壊する選択をできないので、私は投票を変更します。
1. IORの現在の提案書を受け入れる。( PoUW などCardanoエコシステムから見て、優先度の低いと思う内容があっても)
2. IORの現在の提案書を拒否して、LeiosやPerasや量子耐性の全てを研究を捨てて、スケーラビリティとセキュリティを破壊する。
Charles Hoskinson@IOHK_Charles
一部の日本のdRepが私たちの研究提案に反対票を投じたことに、深い悲しみを覚えています。 もしこの提案が可決されなければ、カルダノ(Cardano)はその科学者たちを失い、私たちのラボは閉鎖に追い込まれるということを、日本のコミュニティ全体に再認識していただきたいと考えています。私たちは10年以上の歳月をかけて努力と成長を積み重ね、暗号資産分野において世界最強の研究グループを築き上げてきました。 一部の断片的な資金援助だけで、この成果をバラバラに崩壊させるわけにはいきません。私たちの科学者たちは、より確実性と敬意のある場所へと去ってしまうでしょう。 どうか、カルダノの研究アジェンダを支持するdRepへの委任をお願いいたします。
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@NicolasC3rny @CashAnvil Emurgo requesting any funds at all after achieving very close to nothing with their 2 billion+ genesis allocation is so far beyond shameful that I literally have no words.
If we tolerate or condone bad actors like Emurgo then we all deserve ada to be at $0
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@CashAnvil Just for context:
CF is requesting 7.8 million ada for the Cardano Summit.
EMURGO is requesting 5.07M ada for a TOKEN2049 sponsorship for Cardano.
IOG is requesting nearly 200 million ADA for everything they are working on.
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This is the direct side effect of not being forced to create a revenue positive business and surviving off grants/treasury/ICO.
All 3 FEs were funded well enough to get to the point of real revenue creation, yet here we are in our second round of community governance, with our FEs asking for the entire budget.
No one else is getting a fair stab at it. Look at where the ecosystem is. Who else should we blame???????
This is just downright disrespectful to all the people who have been fighting tooth and nail to survive in this ecosystem.
I don't hate the FE's, let me be clear, but there is a major lack of accountability.
Money talks, and it's screaming at me right now.

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