ultimatecub

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ultimatecub

@ultimatecub0

Beigetreten Nisan 2020

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ultimatecub@ultimatecub0·5h

@32nds So, the Red button is truth-telling- press it and all blue-pressers die. The Blue button’s actual function goes one of a few ways, with 8 total combinations. One is false, and some create paradoxes. Green button’s inert. The answer is that I switch to Green.

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Jaime Griesemer@32nds·7h

Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. One button always lies and the other always tells the truth. The red button says "Press me and everyone who presses blue will die" and the blue button says "If you don't press me, everyone who didn't press blue will not die". After you choose a button Monty Hall reveals that the Blue Button is lying, and if you want you can switch your vote to a third Green Button. Do you switch?

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ultimatecub@ultimatecub0·5h

@Charpen9 @JJtooly @fimbres_paul @redrummarts @IcedMeatba3620 Now, I need to specify this is Fimbre’s scenario. The original scenario? Blue for me.

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ultimatecub@ultimatecub0·5h

@Charpen9 @JJtooly @fimbres_paul @redrummarts @IcedMeatba3620 That’s what the scenario said, straight up. That the game is rigged to always favor red button pushers, and that blue button pushers will always lose.

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Red Drummarts@redrummarts·1d

Everyone who's picking red thinks blue is the suicide button. And everyone who picks blue thinks red is the murder button That's the only conclusion I'm getting from this

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ultimatecub@ultimatecub0·5h

@Charpen9 @JJtooly @fimbres_paul @redrummarts @IcedMeatba3620 Blue loses because the vote was rigged such that Red always wins, regardless of how many or how few choose blue.

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Charpen@Charpen9·6h

@JJtooly @ultimatecub0 @fimbres_paul @redrummarts @IcedMeatba3620 How does blue 'lose' if everyone pushes it, therefore avoiding anyone dying?

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ultimatecub@ultimatecub0·6h

@CommanderRedEXE @VirtualMatt6626 @PositivFuturist @augustecompt If we assume that each of these families has both a mother and father(not applicable for all families in reality, true), and one parent votes blue, 568 million to 1.136 billion will add between 7 percent and 14 percent.

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ultimatecub@ultimatecub0·6h

@CommanderRedEXE @VirtualMatt6626 @PositivFuturist @augustecompt However, these deaths are not inevitable. In the event that at least 46% of the remaining population votes blue, no family will need to grieve.

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Andy@PositivFuturist·20h

Best argument for blue is that he said "everyone in the world" So assuming you don't get to prep your kids - a huge % of kids would die.

Tim Urban@waitbutwhy

Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?

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ultimatecub@ultimatecub0·9h

@CommanderRedEXE @VirtualMatt6626 @PositivFuturist @augustecompt That's if they know the danger present. But the thing is, no clear danger is present. So you could feasibly end up with a baby pushing the blue button by chance, and then because of the risk-averse(most red pressers) and the malicious, the baby(and many like them) ends up dead.

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Derek Dzienny@CommanderRedEXE·13h

@VirtualMatt6626 @PositivFuturist @augustecompt Nah. They'll vote red if you didn't fail as a parent. They have survival instincts.

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ultimatecub@ultimatecub0·9h

@JohnDoe14629 @PositivFuturist @augustecompt It is highly unlikely that a baby would jump into a blender. But there is a decent chance that a baby would press the blue button, not know what it does, and then it's lights out. Forever. And then the baby gets put in a coffin that's fire truck red or froggy green.

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John Doe@JohnDoe14629·16h

@PositivFuturist @augustecompt If we were standing in front of a giant blender, how many do you think would choose to jump in if you told them they would die unless half of everyone also jumped in?

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ultimatecub@ultimatecub0·18h

@Schobii564 WWII death toll: 70-85M dead World population: Approx. 8B 5% of 8B: 400M Yes it would.

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Schobii@Schobii564·20h

@RichardHannay17 No it wouldnt

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Richard Hannay 🇺🇦 🇵🇸@RichardHannay17·1d

This assumes that red will definitely be the majority and blue dies. because I can press a button, but I cannot survive the fucking woodchipper And yea, if you intimidate people by showing them guns, woodchippers and the sort you'd influence the vote...

Lyman Stone 石來民 🦬🦬🦬@lymanstoneky

No, because in the non-button versions red always wins! That’s what blue team doesn’t understand— the entire blue victory is contingent on *the specific detail of it being a button* Make it a woodchipper or a nuke or a drowning tank or any actually lethal object and red wins by a landslide! Which suggests most blue voters are full of shit and lying about their beliefs!

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ultimatecub@ultimatecub0·19h

@Dr_Derael @WagnerWarwick @8Yards8Feet @gfodor Monochromacy.

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AP@Dr_Derael·21h

@ultimatecub0 @WagnerWarwick @8Yards8Feet @gfodor Pretty sure there is no colour blindness that confuses red and blue, unless you are a literal dog.

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gfodor.id@gfodor·1d

The red and blue button test is run globally, and while everyone is sealed in voting booths the result comes in: 58% red, 42% blue. However, there is a glitch in the global death ray, and a message pops up: “ERROR. PLEASE VOTE AGAIN.” How do you vote?

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ultimatecub@ultimatecub0·1d

@Fuheng_H @C_bass1234 @ProjectLiberal What separates FDR from Hitler was that the bad things that happened under FDR were a deviation from the American ideal(at least then), while the bad things that happened under Hitler was Hitler’s ideal.

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Fuheng@Fuheng_H·1d

@C_bass1234 @ProjectLiberal Your support of FDR literally proves that. You yourself showed that you can outweigh death and suffering. Basically you're saying someone can buy himself free from sin. And that's a very dangerous way of looking at things.

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Project Liberal@ProjectLiberal·1d

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ultimatecub@ultimatecub0·1d

@C_bass1234 @Fuheng_H @ProjectLiberal The bad things that did occur under FDR pale in comparison to what Hitler directly created. People like FDR for the good things he did(Social Security, preventing the US from falling to autocracy through keeping the American calm in the Depression), and that’s OK.

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Ministry of Love@C_bass1234·1d

@Fuheng_H @ProjectLiberal Sigh. Bud. Please stop assuming what I do and don’t support. Also I never said any what you allege I said. You would have to severely twist what I said to even come close. But I forgive you so long as you stop putting words I didn’t say in my mouth.

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