mudcat king
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mudcat king
@ronMEXICO1995
#MudcatNation...RIP Adrian long live Dante
Se unió Mayıs 2013
153 Siguiendo110 Seguidores
Dude has obviously never been north of White Plains, but whatever.
Golf Course Gurus@GolfCourseGurus
Top 20 in New York 1. NGLA 2. Fishers 3. Shinnecock 4. Friars 5. Sleepy 6. Maidstone 7. Bethpage 8. Sebonack 9. Oak Hill 10. Winged Foot West 11. Piping Rock 12. Garden City 13. Quaker 14. St. George's 15. Hudson 16. Bridge 17. Winged Ft East 18. Creek 19. Whippoorwill 20. Fenway
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@andrewjcarr29 @Top100Rick @GolfCourseGurus Idk or really care about all that I just know it’s been a course whose story has been told by its rough and its bunkers for 30 years now. Thats enough history for me for a course that plans on hosting a lot of big events
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@ronMEXICO1995 @Top100Rick @GolfCourseGurus It is okay for courses to do that...that were designed that way. Bethpage's original fairways were wider and bunkers were more in play (instead of in the rough.)
The course needs to be restored to what it was in the 1930s.
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@TheGhostofhogan If I ever played with a guy who cared if I called a bunker a sand trap or said I was going to choke up on a club I’d hate that guy so much I’d avoid playing with him in the future.
It’s not that serious, I promise
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@AdamSchupak Guy who choose not to play at all despite knowing that playing is the only way to get into more events shocked when he doesn’t get into more events
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This starts off as a “where are they now” with Ryan Moore, who played just once in ‘25 after 20 years of keeping his card but took a sudden twist into life on the fringes of the Tour/being in 40-something limbo. Too many quotes to quote! Just read it here: golfweek.usatoday.com/story/sports/g…
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@Top100Rick @GolfCourseGurus @andrewjcarr29 The Ryder cup version of bethpage wasn’t bethpage, important to remember that. It’s ok for courses to defend themselves with thick rough surrounding generous fairways, and the course was not allowed to do that.
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@GolfCourseGurus @andrewjcarr29 Much lower.
I think it’s an amazing muni and an incredible walk. Great routing.
But the greens are bland and it has no strategy. We saw that big time at the Ryder Cup.
If you think about the majors at Bethpage, there are basically no memorable holes or shots.
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@Romeos_burner Dan rappaport trying to make the golf burners think he is cool ass post
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If I had a club it would have:
1. Sauna and Steam Room
2. Gentlemen only
3. No phones
4. Multiple short game areas
5. Walking only , no push carts
6. Handwritten guest log
7. Jackets and dress shoes in the main dining room
8. An event where only persimmons can be used
9. Cigs allowed inside, vaping forbidden
10. Red meat only served rare
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But equally importantly, we’re cracking down on more than $19 billion in missed putts that were stolen by Jordan Spieth’s driver. Can you believe that Spieth, he turned out to be higher IQ than we thought. We say this is a low-IQ swing. How did he go into Augusta and steal all that momentum?
We have, you know, he’s a scrambler, he’s a good scrambler, but we hit him out of the trees just like we hit bad lies out. He’s not scrambling so much lately, do you notice? When he goes into those trees, he wants to take over a $1.5 million tournament, load it up with birdies, and they say, “We’re going to hole out from the bunker.” He has powerful wedges. You hit the lip, you blow the whole hole up.
The scorecards are petrified, so they say, “Just give him the par, we’ll give him the strokes instead.” And I don’t do that. We lip him out right to hell on Sunday. We see him standing over those putts, we lip them out. We don’t have as many Spieth heaters anymore. We do. They won’t be there long.
We’ve cut down, with the hitting of the tee shots that are loaded up with spin, including stingers. Can you believe they actually play those, they call them mini fades. Very fast. They’re meant for control.
We’ve knocked them out — the announcers. They were saying he was finding his form. You have ruined somebody’s narrative. We can’t — I would say, a double bogey is not momentum. You don’t build momentum.
But we’ve knocked down Jordan Spieth by Sunday afternoon by 97.2%. Think of that. And I actually say, “Who the hell are the 3%?” Because I would not want to be standing over one of those six-footers.
We knocked them down and now we’re going to start on the back nine. We’re going to knock it all out. The back nine is the easy part. What we did on the front nine is incredible.
And that’s our great golf swing.
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@NoLayingUp You think the PGAT is in peril? By what metric?
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What the tour has effectively done to Rahm, Bryson, and Cam Smith is given them a second chance to sellout all over again.
Assuming they’re able to get out of their deal like Brooks did (not a guarantee), they’d be recommitting to collecting paychecks from a tour that may be in peril.
The PGA Tour is clearly, without any question, the most competitive tour in the world. They’ve made a TON of money from the Saudis already. Continuing on with them when given a one time option to rejoin the tour with the best players… man what a fascinating couple of weeks this is gonna be!
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@TurkStevens @LouStagner Because Lou is an incredible dweeb who hates the sport of golf but likes the numbers involved
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@LouStagner I dont understand why you wouldnt tell us the course
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Is rough like this too much?
I can’t stand when the rough is like this.
Friend of mine sent me this yesterday. He played a “bucket list” course and this is what the conditions were.
Nothing worse than all day watching entire foursomes shuffling in the rough, a couple steps from the edge of the fairway.
Rough like this is fine if it’s a US Open. But setting up a course like this for the rest of us non-world-class golfers is ridiculous.
It slows down pace-of-play and makes the day not a lot of fun. If your course has 50+ yard wide fairways, then I am OK with rough like this. But if your fairways are 25-35 yards wide (like they were for my friend), than rough like this is such a bad idea.
I’ve talked to a few head pros at courses that have rough like this, and the overwhelming “old school” mentality was that “golf is supposed to be hard”.
News flash…. Golf is already incredibly hard without rough tall and thick enough you can barely find the ball much less advance it.

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@MyGolfSpy @chrismbbcsport Sounds like you don’t understand how much “white-glove” level service costs
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Not really. When you break it down, they only partially deliver on any of the three: price, service, or performance.
Prices for many of their products have increased significantly. The service offered isn’t even in the same realm as the white-glove level I’m referring to. And performance is inconsistent at best.
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RANDOM THOUGHT 💭 If I Started a Golf Company Tomorrow
The next great golf company won’t win because of a logo. It’ll win because golfers are sick of:
• $700 drivers
• $2,000 iron sets
• $500 putters
• …and zero service after they buy
Golf is sitting on a massive opportunity right now. Prices are surging, service has gotten worse, and we’ve got a wave of new golfers who don’t care about the old-guard brands.
They’re not brainwashed by the nostalgia of Titleist/TaylorMade/Callaway. They’re coming in with fresh eyes and new expectations.
If I were starting a golf brand today, I’d build around 3 things: price, service, performance.
• Gear golfers can actually afford
• White-glove service that treats golfers like humans, not
transactions
• Products that perform as good or better
The truth?
It can be done. MyGolfSpy could create a $299 driver right now that can hang with anything. $500 irons that can smoke most OEM sets. And a sub-$100 putter that can beat everything.
Guaranteed.
Golfers deserve better. And I hope someone steps up, because where pricing and service is heading right now is straight-up crazy town.
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@JohnProv1 @NUCLRGOLF That’s not the problem. The problem is there should be no putts on any green ever that you cannot try and make.
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@NUCLRGOLF Don't try to make the putt. Leave it two feet on the high side... 🤦
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@LuqueMeatSauce @PGATOUR @TheRSMClassic Please read “A good walk spoiled”
One of the most famous books of all time about how cut throat professional golf is, set in the early 90s
The cutthroat nature of professional golf is nothing new
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Professional golf has changed so much in the last decade and I don’t like it. It’s too cutthroat. The best thing about professional golf is the story of the underdog. There are so many great players who just need an opportunity or a break. Most of the time it’s money. If anything the Tour should double down and have two courses for each event before the cut. 100 players on each course each day then cut and final 36 on the better course. Just like Torrey. Heck, I wouldn’t mind if they went to 156 on each course so the field would be 312. Sounds wild, but I’m the core demographic for the Tour and I watch 24/7 and this would appeal to me. Professional golf on the PGATOUR is global. The best from everywhere on the planet play here. The fields need to increase plus I want to see more Americans and I want them to get more opportunities.
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"I have accepted the situation. I don't think I'm at peace with it ... it sucks."
Fighting to move inside the top 100 @TheRSMClassic and keep your job is no pleasant task. Getting up and down to make the cut on the number extends the hope for two more days.
#FedExCup Fall No. 138 Adam Hadwin, No. 120 Sam Ryder and No. 103 Beau Hossler likely need to go crazy low this weekend in coastal Georgia, but they have a fighting chance.
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@BowTied_Golfer I’m not a rules stickler. I follow them, but would never call something on anyone else. That said…
Had the followed the rules in the Internet invitational, the Luke Kwon drama goes away with 1 rule and 2 letters. DQ. No arguing no interpretation just the rules of golf.
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@LouStagner -guy who pulls out an excel chart while
Standing over an 8 foot putt
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Tiger's career make-rate from 7'0" to 8'11" is 52%.
The best player golf has ever known missed 48% of his putts from that range.
Yet some mid-handicap players think they should rarely miss an 8-footer. 🤷
#ManageYourExpectations
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@LouStagner If a guy pulls this out on the first green and doesn’t make every single putt from 3-10 feet you gotta give him an atomic wedgie
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@andrewjcarr29 @rickiesunorange @TylerRaeDesign On the contrary I’ve played nearly Zero elite courses! I just spend my time daydreaming about realistic courses as a non-private membership golfer and these are the ones on my mind. No sense in pretending I’m headed to sleepy hollow anytime soon
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@ronMEXICO1995 @rickiesunorange MD & Red are a bit underwhelming on the greens.
I've not played Turning Stone but for it to make a Top 5 in NY to play, you must have a played an incredible amount of elite courses.
If you want modern:
Private Friar's Head
Public @TylerRaeDesign Spy Ring
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@andrewjcarr29 @rickiesunorange Montauk downs- public golf in an elite space. I want to see the novelty
Red- want to complete the set at bethpage. First hole always looks so hard.
Turning stone- modern isn’t always bad. Think it’s fair to go see what the modern game can be if done with quality
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@ronMEXICO1995 @rickiesunorange Leatherstocking and Oak Hill East are solid
Please go back to the drawing board for the other 3.
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@andrewjcarr29 @rickiesunorange Montauk downs
Atunoyte
Bethpage red
Leather stocking
Oak hill east
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@rickiesunorange My top 5 NY to be played:
Shinnecock (keep not making the timing work...)
Glens Falls
Blind Brook
Cow Neck
Bedford G&T
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