Adriatic Chieftain

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Adriatic Chieftain

Adriatic Chieftain

@DivineDeadlock

Autismmaxxing. Sexology is my special interest. I like philosophy and politics.

Bergabung Eylül 2022
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Adriatic Chieftain
Adriatic Chieftain@DivineDeadlock·
@_Cannon_Fire_ @cremieuxrecueil No. 110-120 IQ is red. Anyone above 120 can model in their heads that the thought experiment includes children and immediately realizes adults have a responsibility to save them. low IQ altruists + high altruists would save the world from edgy midwit sociopaths like you
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Cannon@_Cannon_Fire_·
@cremieuxrecueil I think they'll be roughly equal, but the ones who push red act more after deliberation and the blues on intuition. I reason that red is the best choice versus I intuit that blue is morally right.
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Crémieux@cremieuxrecueil·
I've received 166 wordsum scores plus blue/red button press results, and I'm so tempted to look, but I have to wait until I hit my target sample size of 2,350. Which side's button pushers will end up being more intelligent?
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Adriatic Chieftain
Adriatic Chieftain@DivineDeadlock·
@_MortalMonkey @cremieuxrecueil You are insane to posit that children are personally responsible for themselves and that adults don't have a responsibility to save them from accidental suicide. Libertarianism is arrested development. Literal mental disorder.
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Adriatic Chieftain
Adriatic Chieftain@DivineDeadlock·
@profjmb Hello professor Bailey! Maybe we should continue this conversation in DMs? I cannot message you because you don't follow me. I'm also happy to continue the convo via e-mail or any other non-public method of correspondence.
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Adriatic Chieftain@DivineDeadlock·
@profjmb Hey, random question! If a man was able to successfully "convert" from gay to straight and wanted to prove it via phallometric testing (like you offered Joseph Nicholosi with his patients) -- how could they sign up for such testing?
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tavis@tavis1_·
@DivineDeadlock @minordissent @jonathanbylos How confident are you that China would conclude that a few people accidentally pressing blue and dying is worse than the small chance that everyone else presses red for some reason, or even the chance to significantly reduce the population of their enemies?
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Adriatic Chieftain
Adriatic Chieftain@DivineDeadlock·
@SpinnerLA @robertskmiles You are a midwit. One option kills children. One option kills no one. Obviously normal people will save children. Only 110-120 IQ range people who fancy themselves "edgy" would press red. Retarded.
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SpinnerLA@SpinnerLA·
@robertskmiles Why would anyone press anything but red.? There is no incentive to do otherwise so no dilemma.
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Rob Miles
Rob Miles@robertskmiles·
Everyone is presented with two buttons, and must choose one: If you press Red, nothing happens. If you press Blue, you die, unless more than half of people also pressed Blue, in which case nothing happens. What do you choose?
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Adriatic Chieftain
Adriatic Chieftain@DivineDeadlock·
@fiatstandard @minordissent @jonathanbylos surely you should use your own agency in this situation to save the random 4-year-old kid who presses blue, not deliberately choose not to and then smugly blame the thought experiment itself for your decision to prioritize yourself over innocent kids
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Adriatic Chieftain@DivineDeadlock·
@minordissent @jonathanbylos You have no idea how people outside of individualistic countries think. No Chinese person would risk killing their grandmother. It would bring dishonor to their ancestors. You are suffering from post-Nietzsche mental illness. Find Christ.
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Max@minordissent·
I can't speak for all red voters, but literally my entire reason for voting red is because I believe that all blue moralizers will chicken out when the time comes. They will win every no-stakes surveys and then like half of them will press red when their life is truly on the line, such that red wins overwhelmingly and blue is suicide.
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Aaron Terrell
Aaron Terrell@elegationvain·
AGP men live vicariously through AGP boys, who they encourage to transition, even providing them hormones or money for HRT, and the boys send progress videos & photos (child porn). People misunderstand this dynamic as purely grooming, but the boys are AGP & are internally motivated to transition. Doesn’t make the adults encouraging and helping them any less criminally culpable though.
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Adriatic Chieftain
Adriatic Chieftain@DivineDeadlock·
@Pintikky @SonOfAnchis3s It's not the same thing. Men generate value. Women disparage others through (1) gossip (2) HR boards (3) discriminatory affirmative action (4) preferential welfare (5) ethics committees they essentially just "take" without creating
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Whitepotato
Whitepotato@Pintikky·
@SonOfAnchis3s "competing to be better than their competition" vs "competing to knock their competition down a few pegs" is same thing Also, if women had more inherent value, you wouldn't have had mass infant murder in china/india. Depends on cultural values at a given time.
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Aeneas
Aeneas@SonOfAnchis3s·
Male and female intrasexual competition is a result of the differing gendered manners of existing in the world. The male is born worthless, always becoming. The male intrasexual dynamic reflects this: men compete by trying to be better than their competition. The female is born with intrinsic value, as the bearer of life, simply being, rather than becoming. The female intrasexual dynamic reflects this: women compete by trying to knock their competition down a few pegs. The man, in search of his value, seeks to ascend the hierarchy. He is wired from birth to reach. The woman, assured of her value, seeks to displace and disqualify any who may compete with her. She is wired from birth to protect her value, rather than create it.
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picky@Pickybusiness·
@DivineDeadlock @Timcast You make alot of assumptions about me just because I wont gamble my life away. You also make alot of assumptions about other people.
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Tim Pool@Timcast·
Red and blue button moral dillema is now a hiring question If you pick red youre not getting hired
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Adriatic Chieftain@DivineDeadlock·
@Pickybusiness @Timcast You say that because you are a cynical godless heathen in a western developed country. Most people in the world are highly collectivistic and religions and wouldn't risk their children dying.
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picky@Pickybusiness·
@DivineDeadlock @Timcast And im saying its logical for people to press red as blue only doesnt kill people if more than half the Earth's population presses it. Blue is the only option where you gamble your life. Its highly unlikely that at least 50% of Earth's population presses blue even on a good day
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Adriatic Chieftain
Adriatic Chieftain@DivineDeadlock·
@elegationvain Gay men see women as part of the "in-group", they are not misogynistic. When they do drag, they are just replicating their favorite role models. "She is literally me". Becoming misogynistic does make you become straight, though. Misogyny is a heterosexual trait.
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Aaron Terrell
Aaron Terrell@elegationvain·
The obsession with women, the imitation of women, & the resentment of women makes sense when AGP is the underlying motivation. Simple, direct, male homosexuality cannot explain drag culture or gay male misogyny. But gayGP explains it all.
pagliacci the hated 🌝@Slatzism

women really were psyopped into thinking gay men deserved their empathy lmao gay men hate women. they have built entire subcultures around mocking women, and they have done it with female support because so many of you are too stupid to realize when you ARE the joke

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Adriatic Chieftain@DivineDeadlock·
@Pickybusiness @Timcast I'm not asking people to do anything. There is no coordinaton in this thought experiment. I am saying it is logical to press blue, as you can model in your head that this is the only option that doesn't kill people, and can assume other ppl are rational too.
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picky@Pickybusiness·
@DivineDeadlock @Timcast And even assuming that youre right, pressing red still gives no risk to the children as according to you most people will just press blue to save the children. Again, you are asking people to gamble their lives, how is that NOT Psychopathic?
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Adriatic Chieftain
Adriatic Chieftain@DivineDeadlock·
@Pickybusiness @Timcast They would not be "doomed by statistics", they would be doomed by your psychopathic ass. Logical people will conclude "to save children, we need to press blue" and assume others will do the same, as is sensible.
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picky@Pickybusiness·
@DivineDeadlock @Timcast Every single human on earth develops a large amount of empathy and presses blue. Statistically most will press red to guarantee survival, so pressing blue is either the result of a misunderstanding, or of virtue signaling to save souls that were doomed by statistics.
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Adriatic Chieftain
Adriatic Chieftain@DivineDeadlock·
@DuncanHenry78 It's an extreme pathology. Male homosexuality has a mortality rate similar to anorexia. Gay men need PreP to keep them alive and the suicide/substance abuse rates are astronomical. Homosexuality is arrested development. You never integrated your capacity for violence/dominance
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Duncan
Duncan@DuncanHenry78·
I didn’t say it was necessarily “adaptive” I did say there’s good evidence that far from being a negative social trait it’s likely to be an advantageous one for a society. It’s certainly not a pathology though as it doesn’t cause any problems. I asserted nothing. Try reading.
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Duncan@DuncanHenry78·
Aaron making the idiotic argument of nature having a “purpose” at the individual level again. 🙄 Humans are social creatures. The requirement for every person to procreate doesn’t exist. Some adult humans not raising babies is a potential asset to early hominids and possibly even before that, homosexuality evolved because it’s either on the whole a net benefit or a non detriment. That’s why it basically doesn’t move in terms of percentage (ignoring the fashion for “LGBTQ” nonsense). It’s not a pathology because it doesn’t cause the organism (me!) a problem. It’s also not infertility because - I’m not. It’s a natural variation which WOULD be a problem if it affected everyone. But it doesn’t. And the reason you’ll never find a “gay gene” is because that would be far too vulnerable to a sudden outbreak of “gay”. No it’s a many pathway - a certain number of people will be gay. In social evolution terms - a certain… surplus number of people will be gay. Bees of course take this idea of social surplus to the ultimate level with only one member reproducing. It’s such a weak and immature argument it’s usually reserved for traditional “right wing” bigots. But even they only do it so the men can continue to claim control over women. No idea what Aaron is spouting this guff. Anyway bored of her silliness now I’ll return to ignoring.
Aaron Terrell@elegationvain

Sexual desire exists for the purpose of procreation. Sometimesthis physiological process develops erroneously and fires toward a non-reproductive target (members of one’s own sex, prepubescents, non-humans, objects, etc). In the mid-late 20th century, activists such as John Money, Harvey Milk, etc. intentionally pushed the postmodern concept of “sexual orientation” to obscure the fact that these desires are counter productive to the purpose of sexuality & to give the impression they’re just as legitimate as sexual desires and behaviors that are reproductive. Did humans prior to the last 50 to 100 years always grow up with healthy, reproductive sexualities & behaviors? No. These errors in sexual development have occurred since the dawn of history or even before. But it’s a brand new notion, specific to “WEIRD” societies to believe a man having sexual desires for another man is just as healthy and normal as reproductive sexuality. It’s truly bizarre if you think about it.

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Adriatic Chieftain
Adriatic Chieftain@DivineDeadlock·
@Pickybusiness @Timcast You can't coordinate with everyone to press the red button. If you could coordinate with everyone, then either pressing red or blue means everyone lives. Absent coordination, pressing red risks killing your young children and your senile grandmother. Unconscionable choice.
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picky@Pickybusiness·
@Timcast Lmao, people would rather moralize online than admit that everyone should just press the red button and nobody dies. Youre virtue signaling if youre going online preaching that youd press blue, where you have to face none of the actual consequences of pressing blue.
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Aaron Terrell
Aaron Terrell@elegationvain·
The propaganda worked. Women really think of gay men as a straight couple where both just happen to be males. The reality is nowhere near.
One of the Above@pick1oftheabove

@elegationvain Early 2010s pre-Obergefell media presented gay relationships to women as wholesome and truly loving while straight relations were allowed to be complex and fraught

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