
Beppo
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The US leaving NATO maybe the one thing that can actually save Europe. For 80 years, the Europeans have coasted. Their defense, especially the cost, was outsourced to America. This allowed them to free up billions to spend on elaborate social welfare programs that undermined the competitive drive of their citizens. With guaranteed incomes and a safety net, there was no need to work hard for a retirement like in America. It gave them the ability to fund free advanced education programs so their sons and daughters could study things with little or no commercial potential unburdened by the need to worry about paying off education loans while also making a living. Without the US funding their defense, they will now have to spend a hell of a lot more than the meager 5% of GDP that Trump requested for NATO funding. In addition, they won’t have America around to step in when disagreements between European nations run the risk of turning into wars. Good luck Europe. You’re gonna need it.






Withdraw from NATO and withdraw all US troops from US bases in Europe and see how many days it takes Russia to conquer Europe.









Hegseth: "As far as NATO, that's a decision that will be left to the president, but a lot has been laid bare ... you don't have much of an alliance if you have countries that are not willing to stand with you when you need them."








