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Joe Murgia

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Latest on UFOs and paranormal, with in-depth analysis you won't find anywhere else on X. I take this seriously. I know nothing! https://t.co/r5CaCLSVRB

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Joe Murgia
Joe Murgia@TheUfoJoe·
"If we have evidence or if we have bodies, we should release that to the world." ~EB Did Burlison See a Craft at the Location He Visited? Umm, No. (Long one here with a transcript and my comments in ( ). Work today so I was a little limited with this stuff. Looking forward to the Davis interview tomorrow!) In 2025, @RepEricBurlison spent "almost the entire day" with the White House staff as they negotiated various aspects of the Big Beautiful Bill. While he was there, he requested help with the UFO topic because the Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets kept getting blocked and struggled to get access to certain information and locations. So, he asked for a White House-level briefing, "the same briefing the President... If you're taking the request, that's my highest request." (He didn't say if he ever received that briefing.) Burlison: "Furthermore, I would like to be able to have a green light to go visit some of these locations. And the gentleman that I was asking kind of smirked. And I said, 'Is this comical to you? I mean, do you think that I'm not a serious person?'" (I mean, funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? 😀 ) Burlison: "He said, 'No.' he goes. 'I just want to go with you.' And so, it turns out he did. He was able to go with me. He had to follow the proper channels as well. And we visited the first of many sites, hopefully. I'm gonna be cautious in talking about that because I don't want to jeopardize the ability to go to the remaining locations, if you will. I truly think that, for them, this was a test of whether or not this would become a circus for them. And so, I think that I'm just treading cautiously before I release too much information about what I've learned and where I went." (I understand not giving out the location to avoid a "circus" of UFO people trying to visit, but I don't see why he can't tell us what he learned right now. Hopefully, when all the visits are done, he can share the details with us.) James Fox: "Congressman, when you say you went to visit the site, are you implying that the alleged site that could, potentially, be housing non-human technology? Is that kind of what one is alleging here?" Burlison: "Yeah. Or, once did house non-human technology, right? Now, from my insights from Grusch and others, they had...it was pretty obvious that that first site that we were going to did not have active material, but, potentially, could have in the past. So what was important was to see the facilities and the structures, and to try to ascertain for A), first and foremost, did those facilities exist? And then were they designed in such a way that would have been, you know, one could easily see that that could have been utilized for reverse engineering." (Saying that a location/facility could have been utilized for reverse engineering craft not made by humans is not enough to make the waves we need to force the tidal wave of Disclosure. We need for Burlison (or someone else) to be able to visit a facility that has a craft there now, and folks working on it who are willing to speak about their experiences there. I don't see that happening any time soon.) Leslie Kean: "May I ask If the people at the site were cooperative and helpful for you?" Burlison: "Yes." Leslie Kean: "Or were they resistant to having you visit?" Burlison: "No, they were very cooperative. What I kind of interpreted from this is that a lot of what's happening today is that you have things that have happened in the past, and the people today, you know, you're talking about personnel that have changed over many times. And so, a lot of times they're not aware of the history of some of the things that you're talking about because that's not something that they're working on, currently. But they certainly were extremely helpful." (They were either not aware of the history or, they were, and lied about it. Can't rule that out. And the fact that they were helpful/cooperative doesn't really mean much. If you want to avoid unwanted attention, you put your best face on. Or, maybe they really were ignorant and wanted to do their best to help Burlison and the other folks? No way to know.) Burlison: "I had specifically wanted to meet with a particular individual that works at that location, and I actually expected them to turn me down, but was surprised that they actually arranged a meeting in a SCIF with the person that I requested. So, I do think that they're being cooperative." (Hopefully, when all of these locations have been visited, we get to learn this person's name. Full transparency, right?) Burlison: "And now that the President has [posted on Truth Social about UFOs], I think it gives everyone all the way down the line an understanding that this is to be taken seriously and to follow through." (We shall see.) Burlison: "On the way back after the visit, the White House staffer and the other person that had made it happen both said to me that they loved doing this. This was one of the funnest things they've ever done in their job, and that these other future site locations are not at all gonna be a burden to them. If anything, they're excited and looking forward to it." (Are we going to learn who those people are? Transparency? If not, why not? We pay their salaries.) James Fox: "I had a really quick follow-up question, Congressman. If you did find what you're looking for, is there a particular protocol, or what's the directive if you find what you're looking for?" Burlison: "If I find what I'm looking for, I'm gonna be very careful to protect any kind of national-security interest. But at the same time, I've been very clear that it is not the right of this country to withhold basic, fundamental evidence that we may or may not be alone. And so, if we have any kind of evidence of that, we should be telling the world and not holding back. And give as many details as possible, and release...be as transparent as possible without jeopardizing our secrets and national security. Or secrets that pertain...that our national security is dependent upon." (For now, keep the method of propulsion (energy source) secret and away from our adversaries and tell us everything else!) Burlison: "Well, I'm just gonna speculate, okay? If we have a type of technology that we have reverse engineered, that gives us a strategic advantage that our adversaries have not? I think that, for example, letting the world know that we have this craft, here it is, here's a photo of it, but you don't have to tell the world how exactly the...what you've reverse engineered, or how that operates." (Photos aren't going to cut it. If they exist, we need to see these craft (and bodies?) in person, with our own eyes. Put them in the Smithsonian and let us see all of it. And allow independent scientists to do their own analysis so we can verify that it's non-human or anomalous.) Burlison: "In the same way that when the nuclear bomb first was invented and utilized, the world knew, we revealed to the world that we have this capability, but we certainly are not gonna tell people how to make one and the specifics behind that. So, I think that for me, that's how I would answer that question. If you were asking me, 'What would you be willing to protect as far as national security?' That would be the nature of it. "Now, I think if the technology that's derived has nothing to do with changing our threat dynamic with an adversary, and it might benefit society and the world, by all means, let's release it. Let's let the world scientific minds utilize anything that we might have discovered. And so, that's where I personally stand." (But we all that it's not going to be that simple. Most likely (if this is all legit), we'll have craft and bodies, and the tech from the craft can give us an advantage over our adversaries, while at the same time, potentially, be used to change and improve the world and human condition. So what do we do? Keep it secret? Tell the world and take our chances?) Burlison: "I don't know, I couldn't tell you what Hillary meant by that." (EB was referring to the recent interview/deposition about Epstein where Hillary Clinton said that she would release UFO files but they would be "subject to any national security implications" and it should be done so that "no national security information is disclosed." She didn't get specific.) Burlison: "If we have evidence or if we have bodies, we should release that to the world. If we, you know, if what Eric Davis said to me - and now that was not in a hearing in which he had been sworn in, and I'm not saying that he was telling me a falsehood - when he said that there are four alien species - and that kind of went viral - I mean, if we, if we do have evidence of that, I want the world to know. I don't see why that would be of national security interest to withhold that from the world." (Unless, the people who have seen the bodies say something like, "Their skin is something that can be used as armor and we can't allow our adversaries to learn about that. Just trying to think of reasons why the gatekeepers will tell us that information needs to be kept secret.)
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Dr. Steven Poop
Dr. Steven Poop@realstephenpoop·
@TheUfoJoe What difference would it make if everyone talked about it? I’ve been “paying attention” to the topic for almost 30 years. Everyone knows the gov lies about everything, nobody will believe them even if they do miraculously start telling truth.
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Joe Murgia
Joe Murgia@TheUfoJoe·
Not UFO-related, but when I finally decided to end Cookie's (my dog) life, Chris took shots at how much I had posted details of what Cookie was going through. This was AFTER I let everybody know that Cookie was gone. He knew that. It was one of the most vile things I've ever seen somebody post. Fuck him and fuck Vetted for defending the guy.
Vetted@VettedPodcast

Great Job @RedPandaKoala. You stood your ground. And i agree with you. Where is the evidence about Chris? None. Zero. Zilch. And most of those guys in the space are some of most toxic people in this community so it’s ironic to hear them virtue signaling. I like chris and he is far from an evil person as they’re implying. I find him to be quite personable and consider him a friend in the community. I like all kinds of people in the community with all kinds of beliefs. We all approach this topic differently. Its a shit show as usual.

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Joe Murgia@TheUfoJoe·
@RodrigoYupangui I don't know. That gets to my extreme speculation that NHI and agreements somehow plays into that. But that's crazy talk.
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RODRIGO YUPANGUI
RODRIGO YUPANGUI@RodrigoYupangui·
@TheUfoJoe “that various people in various agencies are totally fucking over UAP whistleblowers who have come forward publicly”
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Joe Murgia@TheUfoJoe·
We've been told by multiple witnesses (Dylan, Matt, Grusch, etc.) that various people in various agencies are totally fucking over UAP whistleblowers who have come forward publicly, and behind the scenes. And crimes have allegedly been committed against said whistleblowers. And yet, Astral chooses to go after Dylan, who's the only one who came forward w/o going through DOPSR first. Think about that. Whatever evidence these guys do or don't release, classified or not, is up to them. But if you're thinking any of them have a piece of a craft or amazing video they snuck out, you should lower your expectations.
Astral🛸@The_Astral_

Dylan Borland says he has actual evidence but wants to give AARO and ODNI a chance to “do the right thing” C’mon now… are we whistleblowing or tiptoeing?

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Joe Murgia@TheUfoJoe·
@SimShady99 100%. Most folks don't give a shit, and they have no idea what's been said over the past few years since Grusch. They don't even realize some in Congress are trying to get to the bottom of things.
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Kade
Kade@SimShady99·
@TheUfoJoe I hate to admit it but this is the sad truth
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RODRIGO YUPANGUI
RODRIGO YUPANGUI@RodrigoYupangui·
@TheUfoJoe Any guess why they are doing that Joe!? Give me your wildest and most irresponsible answer please !
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Dylan Borland
Dylan Borland@TheDylanBorland·
Very true @rosscoulthart No matter your opinions on any whistleblower: Controlled organization by government and private business to discredit families publicly should disgust EVERYONE regardless of political persuasion (OH YEAH, WHILE COMMITTING FELONIES AND GETTING A PROMITION FOR IT) #JUSTSAYING
Ross Coulthart@rosscoulthart

I can corroborate Matthew Brown's claims that a coordinated legacy UAP program disinformation operation is being run against whistleblowers. I received a message from an insider in one of those smear operations, who was disgusted by what he was being ordered to do: hide and discredit discussion of UAP legacy programs online.

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Daniel Miller - SiCcOp
Notable. Unanimous agreement from IC leaders that the IC assessment on AHI should be retracted.
House Intelligence Committee@HouseIntel

WATCH: During today's Worldwide Threats Hearing, each leader of the Intelligence Community agreed with Chairman @RepRickCrawford that the Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA) on Anomalous Health Incidents (AHI), which was constructed upon significantly flawed analytic tradecraft, should be recalled.

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Gerb
Gerb@UAPGERB·
Another Senior UFO Legacy Program figure currently or recently serving an executive role at Northrop Grumman - Michael Dempsey, @northropgrumman Vice President of Government Affairs and Strategy & Development for Space, Cyber, and Intelligence Prior to Northrop, Dempsey served briefly as Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) in 2017 following a tenure as Deputy Director of National Intelligence for Intelligence Integration in the Obama Administration from 2014-2017 under James Clapper. It is my understanding that Dempsey, allegedly, engaged in overseeing UFO crash retrieval and exploitation efforts housed under the National Security Council alongside James Clapper and his Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence (PDDNI) Stephanie O'Sullivan. During this time, Dempsey served as Obama's primary intelligence briefer.... If anyone partially read Obama into legacy activities during or post his presidency OR neglected to read Obama into such activities, this would have been Dempsey. Like any good senior legacy gatekeeper, Dempsey, of course, served for many years within the CIA. These CIA positions included: Deputy Associate Director for Military Affairs, Deputy CIA Representative to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Deputy Director of the Weapons Intelligence, Nonproliferation, Arms Control Center (WINPAC). @ChrisUKSharp of the @LiberationTimes has some excellent work discussing how WINPAC, now known as the Weapons and Counterproliferation Mission Center (WCPMC), "produces coordinated assessments for senior policymakers on foreign advanced weapons systems and technologies across the space, air, land, sea and undersea domains, including UAP." I highly recommend reading Sharp's work to also learn how James Clapper's brief retirement from service during 1998-2001 ties into WINPAC: liberationtimes.com/home/us-air-fo… It is my understanding that recently, allegedly, Dempsey oversaw a senior role in the administration of Northrop Grumman's NHI recovery and exploitation activities under his VP of Government Affairs role. For reference, @LockheedMartin VP of Government affairs from 2006-2021 was one Mary K. Sturtevant. During the early 2010's failed Kona Blue transfer of recovered UFO materials from Lockheed Martin Space Systems Company to the AAWSAP program, Sturtevant liaised between Lockheed VP Dr. Jim Ryder and CIA DS&T Deputy Director Glenn Gaffney, who was crucial to killing the proposed transfer. Perspective on the importance of "VP of Government Affairs" role within our primes Learn more about Dempsey: web.archive.org/web/2017020316… en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Demp… climate.columbia.edu/events/careers… forbes.com/sites/michaelp…
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Joe Murgia@TheUfoJoe·
@galaxopithecus @Karenalexphi @LueElizondo NewsNation started off so promising with Grusch, but but then went downhill with a lot of things. I was waiting to see what you had to say about Ross's mummy doc. Unfortunately, you weren't in it.
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Galaxopithecus
Galaxopithecus@galaxopithecus·
This and (not to put words in Lue's mouth) I think exaggerated and unscientific claims. Personally I don't think media personalities do whistleblowers any favors when they feature their testimony in one episode, then breathlessly try to drum up interest in fake mummies or reptilian skeletons in the next. One topic is serious, the other isn't, but no distinction. It's all just chum for the waters. Granted not all media outlets do this, for which I'm thankful. But enough do it that it (IMO) delegitimatizes the topic more broadly. Especially when we're talking an outlet like NewsNation, for example.
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Joe Murgia@TheUfoJoe·
@SicCoP1 It didn't shock me. Guy has issues. Thanks, Daniel.
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Daniel Miller - SiCcOp
@TheUfoJoe Wow. That’s utterly despicable. What an asshole. I’m sorry you were on the receiving end of that. My lil old man 🐕 means the world to me, and I would go scorched earth if somebody did that to me.
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Joe Murgia@TheUfoJoe·
@MDJ50423978 And then we have Lyn Buchanan's claims that he thinks he saw Grey-types working alongside our military folks and knows others with similar stories.
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Mike Jamieson
Mike Jamieson@MDJ50423978·
@TheUfoJoe We have intel from civilian gathered data: more than one person has told Ardy Clarke that greys have told abductees that our government knows about them. Also an ER doc interacting with another type of et was told the greys had human scientists working with them.
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Joe Murgia@TheUfoJoe·
👽 Agreements Between Humans and Non-Humans (NHI)? 👽 (Why are the powers that be SO desperate to keep this secret and discredit whistleblowers? Is the ultimate boss...NHI? Is that too crazy to consider? Others have suggested it.) Coulthart Voiceover: "But if this non-human intelligence is so advanced, and at least some of them are malevolent, why haven't they destroyed us already? Perhaps some fragile, yet combustable, detente has been reached? Grusch has written an internal document about his discoveries that refers to agreements that risk putting our future in jeopardy." ~~~ Coulthart: "It is quite clear that you're talking about agreements between America and non-human intelligences. Have we made agreements with non-human intelligences?" Grusch: "That's the kind of information I really hope national leadership is able to get to the bottom of." Coulthart: "I need to pin you down on this. Are there agreements between non-human intelligences and the American government?" Grusch: "I think that's a question that I would like to know all the details of, as well."
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Joe Murgia@TheUfoJoe·
@MDJ50423978 That would be amazing for us to learn. Them masses? Not so much!
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David Pearce
David Pearce@DavidPearceuap·
@TheUfoJoe @devgru1980mi Well judging by the state of the world and how polarised we are right now, it could be a classic divide and conquer strategy. And let’s face it, the agenda some of our governments are imposing right now aren’t for humanities benefit. It feels inherently anti humanitarian.
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