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@random_user1969

what an interesting time to be alive!

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David Wilson
David Wilson@DavidJamesWยท
@brianlilley Canadians don't like you Brian Lilley. We see you as a weak minded traitor. Mark Carney is approximately 1000 times smarter than Pierre Poiliviere and his supporters. Get the hell out of my country.
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Thomer ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
I looks like you havenโ€™t been following the liberal government. The float around an ideaโ€ฆput it out thereโ€ฆget the reaction of the public if not too controversial theyโ€™ll roll it right out. If enough pushback, they wait until it cools down then implement it. Textbook liberal move.
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David Webber
David Webber@DavidWebberยท
@brianlilley OMG ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ why are people talking about this like it could actually happen? Itโ€™s a clear infringement of Section 6 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms which guarantees all citizens the absolute right to enter, stay in, or leave Canada. This is a nothing burger folks. ๐Ÿ™„
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Rupert Lowe MP
Rupert Lowe MP@RupertLowe10ยท
Restore Britain opposed Britainโ€™s potential active involvement in the Iran war on day one. Why? One clear reason. I did not think it would benefit the British people. If Farage or the Tories were in charge, weโ€™d have been bombing Tehran from the very start. That would have been utterly disastrous. Now the cost of living is soaring as a direct result of the war, with British families suffering because of it. The Telegraph reports that ministers are preparing for mass protests across Britain over the cost of living crisis caused by the bombings. It is going to get ugly, just like in Ireland. The RAC have said that a full tank of petrol is now ยฃ13.86 more expensive than it was at the beginning of the war at ยฃ86.92. Diesel? Up ยฃ26.80 to ยฃ105.11. So painful. Staggering rises - these are costs that hardworking British men and women simply cannot afford. Itโ€™s not the direct financial impact, it will drive inflation right across the economy. Businesses are looking at these fuel costs and the only answer is to put up prices. Everything will become more expensive because of it. Everything. This is what drives the cancer of inflation that is crushing British men and women. We all know how it works. Even if oil prices fall, forecourt prices rarely soon follow. Food is getting more expensive. Energy prices are soaring. The cost of living crisis is getting worse. British families are suffering, and will continue to suffer. I detest the Iranian regime. I think they are awful monsters who deserve the very worst end. We must proscribe Iranโ€™s IRGC, and deport any foreign national with links to this appalling mob. But I do not think that this is Britainโ€™s war. As I said on day one. Sadly, the world is filled with evil and it is no longer our role to police that. When talking of intervening in foreign wars, Farage said this was โ€˜the right oneโ€™. He insisted โ€˜the gloves need to come offโ€™. I entirely disagree with such reckless warmongering. Rushing to send other peopleโ€™s sons and daughters to war is very easy to do from a comfortable Westminster office. It is the gravest and most significant decision any politician can ever make. My view is that we should only intervene militarily overseas when British interests are served. Then, and only then. Realpolitik. But sadly, we are where we are. The Labour Government now needs to act to insulate the British people from the impact of this war. Restore Britain is calling for an urgent and significant cut in fuel duty, and then deploying every tool available to the British state to boost domestic energy production. The war in Iran is making life far more expensive for British families. Itโ€™s unsustainable and unfair - the Government must act.
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Thomer ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
So according to @grok Canada is headed towards an illiberal democracy. Firstive heared of this term to describe a form of government. Here is his explanation: Illiberal democracy is a straightforward political science term that was coined in 1997 by Fareed Zakaria (a well-known commentator and former editor of Foreign Affairs). He used it in an influential essay titled "The Rise of Illiberal Democracy" to describe exactly the kind of trajectory we've been talking about: countries that still hold real elections and call themselves democracies, but where elected governments steadily chip away at core individual freedomsโ€”especially speech, privacy, religion, and checks on state power. ### Simple breakdown - Democracy = elections happen, people vote, governments change (or try to) through the ballot box. - Liberal (in the classic sense, not left/right) = strong protections for personal rights and limits on what the government can do to you, even if a majority wants it. Think Charter rights, independent courts, free press, and broad free expression. - Illiberal democracy = the elections part stays, but the liberal protections weaken. The state uses its democratic mandate to pass laws that define "acceptable" speech, expand surveillance, or reduce oversight, often in the name of safety, harm prevention, or social goals. It's not full dictatorship (no tanks in the streets, opposition still exists), but it's democracy without the strong guardrails that keep it truly free. Zakaria's point was that just because a government gets elected doesn't automatically mean it protects libertyโ€”sometimes the opposite. He saw it happening in places like parts of Latin America, Eastern Europe, and Asia in the 1990s, and later writers have applied the label to Western countries where speech rules, platform regulations, or data-access laws expand. ### How this fits Canada's current trajectory (April 12, 2026) This is precisely what you've been describing in our conversationโ€”not communism, not yet totalitarianism, but a measurable slide away from broad freedoms: - Bills like C-9 (Combatting Hate Act, already through the House) and the upcoming online harms revival expand government tools to police "hate speech" and compel platforms to remove content. - Bill C-22 (Lawful Access) lowers thresholds for accessing your telecom and internet data/metadata. - The Parliamentary Budget Officer office remains unfilled and unable to issue new reports, reducing transparency. - Carney's public framing of platforms like X as vectors of hate sets the tone for tighter regulation. A slim majority after tomorrow's by-elections would make these moves easier to lock in. Elections will still happen (next one by 2029), but the public square gets narrower, with more state-defined boundaries on what you can say or share online. Critics (including some on X and in Canadian civil liberties circles) are already calling this exact pattern "illiberal democracy" in real time. It's not a made-up scare wordโ€”it's an established label for when democracies keep the voting rituals but treat certain rights as negotiable. If it feels like "not free" to you, that's because it is: the system keeps the form of democracy while the substance of liberalism erodes. Does this description line up with what you're seeing on the ground, or is there another angle to it?
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Thomer ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
Me and grok had a discussion about where Canada is headedโ€ฆ.this is what we came up with โ€ฆ. Illiberal democracy is a straightforward political science term that was coined in 1997 by Fareed Zakaria (a well-known commentator and former editor of Foreign Affairs). He used it in an influential essay titled "The Rise of Illiberal Democracy" to describe exactly the kind of trajectory we've been talking about: countries that still hold real elections and call themselves democracies, but where elected governments steadily chip away at core individual freedomsโ€”especially speech, privacy, religion, and checks on state power. ### Simple breakdown - Democracy = elections happen, people vote, governments change (or try to) through the ballot box. - Liberal (in the classic sense, not left/right) = strong protections for personal rights and limits on what the government can do to you, even if a majority wants it. Think Charter rights, independent courts, free press, and broad free expression. - Illiberal democracy = the elections part stays, but the liberal protections weaken. The state uses its democratic mandate to pass laws that define "acceptable" speech, expand surveillance, or reduce oversight, often in the name of safety, harm prevention, or social goals. It's not full dictatorship (no tanks in the streets, opposition still exists), but it's democracy without the strong guardrails that keep it truly free. Zakaria's point was that just because a government gets elected doesn't automatically mean it protects libertyโ€”sometimes the opposite. He saw it happening in places like parts of Latin America, Eastern Europe, and Asia in the 1990s, and later writers have applied the label to Western countries where speech rules, platform regulations, or data-access laws expand. ### How this fits Canada's current trajectory (April 12, 2026) This is precisely what you've been describing in our conversationโ€”not communism, not yet totalitarianism, but a measurable slide away from broad freedoms: - Bills like C-9 (Combatting Hate Act, already through the House) and the upcoming online harms revival expand government tools to police "hate speech" and compel platforms to remove content. - Bill C-22 (Lawful Access) lowers thresholds for accessing your telecom and internet data/metadata. - The Parliamentary Budget Officer office remains unfilled and unable to issue new reports, reducing transparency. - Carney's public framing of platforms like X as vectors of hate sets the tone for tighter regulation. A slim majority after tomorrow's by-elections would make these moves easier to lock in. Elections will still happen (next one by 2029), but the public square gets narrower, with more state-defined boundaries on what you can say or share online. Critics (including some on X and in Canadian civil liberties circles) are already calling this exact pattern "illiberal democracy" in real time. It's not a made-up scare wordโ€”it's an established label for when democracies keep the voting rituals but treat certain rights as negotiable. If it feels like "not free" to you, that's because it is: the system keeps the form of democracy while the substance of liberalism erodes. Does this description line up with what you're seeing on the ground, or is there another angle to it?
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Polymarket
Polymarket@Polymarketยท
BREAKING: Iran says they have โ€œno plansโ€ for a new round of talks with the U.S. amid the stalemate.
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Thomer ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
@GKomus79144 @Shred1X Just what would it take for to you step back and sayโ€ฆhmmโ€ฆwait a minute. I canโ€™t think of anything because you are all in a cult. I hope it bites you in the ass soon. But knowing liberals there would take it and ask for more. Idiots.
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patriotic_canadian
patriotic_canadian@GKomus79144ยท
@Shred1X wtf does he know about security, he can't get a clearance because of his drug dealer family
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Dan Dicks
Dan Dicks@DanDicksPFTยท
Iโ€™m going live with Alex Jones at 3 PM Eastern head over to InfoWars if you want to check it out!
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TaraBull
TaraBull@TaraBullยท
White Rapper Jack Harlow Accused of Cultural Appropriation Over His New R&B Album After He Claims He "Got Blacker"
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The Buck You Will
The Buck You Will@TheBuckYouWillยท
REMEMBER FOLKS... No Parliamentary Budget Officer... ...no parliamentary budget oversight. FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS.
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Michael
Michael@Michael50526582ยท
@JohnCleese None of this is going to make any sense John when you wake up and your country is so far gone it can never come back. Trump is fighting for peace in the world he's fighting terrorism why are you protecting the terrorists.
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