P Hav

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P Hav

P Hav

@4freedom55

I’m a Grandpa

Katılım Nisan 2022
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@Olu_Utd14 Your theories are human imaginations. And I’m serious. I don’t know why you think your thoughts are superior to everybody else’s.
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OluOnTop🌚@Olu_Utd14·
Miracles are human imaginations... Any event that is surprising or unexpected is just a random action… It could have gone either way. Whatever it is, or was, just happened or occurred…
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@Olu_Utd14 With respect, I think your multitudes of posts seem to indicate your having some accepting issues yourself
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OluOnTop🌚@Olu_Utd14·
Why is it so hard for some people to accept that others sincerely do not share their core beliefs? Why is it easier to assume they’re lying, angry, rebellious, or hiding some secret motive instead of accepting the simpler answer: they just do not believe?
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@Olu_Utd14 You’re really stuck in your own narrow paradigm… ever considered that there might be people that have seen and experienced things that you have not yet.?
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OluOnTop🌚@Olu_Utd14·
Nobody has spoken to you, nobody is speaking to you, and nobody will speak to you from some supernatural realm … What’s more likely happening is that you’re sleep deprived, stressed out, mentally exhausted, or overwhelmed… Constant shouting and intense praying can also seriously affect the mind and body… Get a bed space (you know where)
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@McClureShawn @MikeMcartyglass It must be difficult for you to abide the existence of we underlings that are so inferior to you intellectually… Hopefully occasionally you get a break 😉
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Shawn "All Outta Bubblegum" McClure
@MikeMcartyglass "Recent quantum physics suggests the universe may be more complex than a purely physical system" LOL, no, it does not—not unless one is incapable of understanding the extant body of peer-reviewed literature on quantum physics, that is. 😆✝️🫏🤡
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@McClureShawn There is evidence… you’re just not open to it.
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@McClureShawn I think you’re stereotyping. Nobody’s exempting their beliefs from logic… We’re just saying that there are realities outside our ability to measure through your five senses. Most of us sincerely acknowledge your right to think differently.
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Shawn "All Outta Bubblegum" McClure
Why do I post about God? Because theists routinely exempt their beliefs from the standards of evidence, logic, consistency, and skepticism demanded everywhere else in life, yet insist on special respect precisely where scrutiny should be MOST intense and uncompromising.
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Shawn "All Outta Bubblegum" McClure
Why do I post about God? Because I was taught from childhood that doubt was sin, curiosity was rebellion, and skepticism deserved eternal torture. People who escape indoctrination have every right—and perhaps a responsibility—to speak openly about the brainwashing they escaped.🧵
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@McClureShawn So you’re not arrogant, right? Just other people 😉
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Shawn "All Outta Bubblegum" McClure
Why do I post about God? Because I reject the presuppositional arrogance of people claiming certainty about the attributes, intentions, commands, desires, and judgements of an invisible, improbable supernatural being for whom no reliable evidence has ever been produced.
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@theerealtao So a parent who has developed a wonderful relationship with God, probably by participating in the ordinances of their religion, should not share the knowledge of those beautiful truths with their children? Calling “indoctrination“ is sort of jaded don’t you think?
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Tao☠️@theerealtao·
Most religions claim to offer truth, yet depend heavily on childhood indoctrination to survive across generations.
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@DeeWaynee94 But I think geneticists believe that we all descended from an original female ancestor… in this case, I think science backs up the Eve theory.
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@Mozefrontier @AnotherStam @Danish_SMF The God I believe in allows people to make mistakes and then learn from them, then hopefully learn to make better decisions. What’s so crazy about that? In this life, we learn from our mistakes and the tuff experiences we go thru. We take that knowledge with us into the next life
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Moze@Mozefrontier·
@AnotherStam @Danish_SMF Yep honestly I'm the same, no god I would want to worship would allow this shit to go on and do nothing.
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Danish Gerd@Danish_SMF·
If God is all-powerful and all-loving, why is a biological system designed to include pediatric bone cancer? Did he intend for that to happen, or was he unable to stop it?
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@FANAttIC10 @Danish_SMF BTW I have a blind daughter… she has insights into life and people I will never be able to have.
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FANAttIC@FANAttIC10·
@4freedom55 @Danish_SMF What can we learn watching a child die horrible death of Leukemia or child being born with double Retinoblastoma (eye cancer demanding harsh chemotherapy for about 5 years, in optimistic scenario where they stay alive and keep their eyes, probably becoming blind)?
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Danish Gerd@Danish_SMF·
You've written thousands of words to justify why a loving God allows children to die of cancer. But you haven't answered the simple question: Why couldn't an all‑powerful, all‑loving God create a world w/o pediatric bone cancer? A child dying of leukemia is not, in training 2
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@FANAttIC10 @Danish_SMF We learn compassion. We learn how to sacrifice our time and resources to serve and love that child. She learns to be brave and strong and deal with a horrible situation and to appreciate the good days in the midst of the bad. death is not the end. We take those lessons with us.
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@Danish_SMF So when you look back on the challenges you’ve had in life, maybe even some super tough challenges, you can’t acknowledge that you learned valuable lessons about compassion, about endurance, about the goodness of people who reached out to help you? I believe we came here to learn
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Danish Gerd
Danish Gerd@Danish_SMF·
2 She's not learning obedience. She's dying. And you're using her death as a lesson for others. That's not theology It's exploitation. If a human parent did this, we'd call them a monster. You're asking me to worship a God who does exactly that. I can't. And I won't.
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@DeeWaynee94 I don’t think so Frank… I think they probably know that it is impossible to save themselves without Jesus Christ… It’s just that they acknowledge that in the Bible, God asks us to do some things. Not just confessed that we have faith, and then go on our merry way.
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Pathfinder@Pathfinder4545·
@Olu_Utd14 Funny how you think only other people can self-decieve.
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OluOnTop🌚@Olu_Utd14·
We really don’t talk enough about how hard it is to disprove something that only exists in someone’s personal belief… Once a person is convinced something exists, proving to them that it doesn’t becomes almost impossible, you just can’t fully do it…
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@asantekotoko4 @Olu_Utd14 There are people that swear they have seen and spoken to departed spirits and perhaps angels. To them, it’s not just some belief or opinion they dreamed up, but an actual experience. I get that probably you would not believe a story like that.
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Eek-a-Rebel@asantekotoko4·
@Olu_Utd14 "beliefs" are not real or provable but just just opinions that people refuse to admit they really know nothing at all about said opinions. You don't have to believe your mom is your mother, you know that for a fact. You only "believe" when you don't know.
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@patrickdaoun @Olu_Utd14 It’s bizarre to me the number of atheists on X that are so driven to tear people away from their faith in God …
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P Hav@4freedom55·
@Olu_Utd14 You probably can’t prove it because, as much as you think you do, you can’t completely understand their personal experience because it is in an area of thought you don’t want to enter.
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Tao☠️@theerealtao·
Religions survive because questioning them is treated like betrayal instead of curiosity.
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