Prakash

24.9K posts

Prakash banner
Prakash

Prakash

@8teAPi

Tech optimist, recovering former CFA, livestreaming @AI_in_the_AM, future shocked self-aware neuron, once fooled by superconductors;

Subscribe to the frontier 👉 Katılım Mayıs 2021
5.4K Takip Edilen56.7K Takipçiler
Prakash
Prakash@8teAPi·
😂 Fable post training has been so strict about catching its own hallucinations that it cannot believe the result after verifying it multiple times
lyra bubbles@_lyraaaa_

@__alpoge__ fable is losing its mind about this in CoT

English
0
1
4
824
Prakash retweetledi
levent
levent@__alpoge__·
hello there the jacobian conjecture is false thanx to my close friend akhil for asking about it and my other close friend fable for working during the world cup final ((1+xy)^3 z + y^2 (1+xy) (4+3xy), y + 3 x (1+xy)^2 z + 3 x y^2 (4+3xy), 2 x - 3 x^2 y - x^3 z): \C^3\to \C^3, has jacobian determinant -2, and sends (0, 0, -1/4), (1, -3/2, 13/2), and (-1, 3/2, 13/2) to (-1/4, 0, 0)
English
500
918
6.4K
2.3M
Prakash
Prakash@8teAPi·
my bets are on a mathematical result significant for either compression or matrix multiplication by the end of the year leading to an unhobbling and sudden step up in intelligence per token
English
2
3
19
1.4K
Prakash retweetledi
Christian Szegedy
Christian Szegedy@ChrSzegedy·
I can't even fathom the next year
English
6
11
154
14K
Prakash retweetledi
Jared Duker Lichtman
Jared Duker Lichtman@jdlichtman·
This is quite a remarkable result: Posed in 1939, the Jacobian conjecture is one of the central open problems in algebraic geometry, but was just disproved by Alpoge, Matthew, and Claude Fable 5. The Jacobian conjecture roughly says that a multivariable polynomial F has an inverse function (made out of polynomials) provided the Jacobian is non-singular (i.e. matrix of partial derivatives has non-zero determinant). This condition is neccessary by the Inverse Function Theorem from multivariable calculus. The hard question is whether it is also sufficient. Evidently, Fable found that F(x,y,z) = ((1+xy)^3 z + y^2 (1+xy) (4+3xy), y + 3 x (1+xy)^2 z + 3 x y^2 (4+3xy), 2 x - 3 x^2 y - x^3 z) has det(J_F) = -2 non-zero. However F is not invertible, since F sends three different pts (0, 0, -1/4), (1, -3/2, 13/2), and (-1, 3/2, 13/2) to the same image (-1/4, 0, 0). Beyond the disproof itself, it would be value to know if a suitably refined conjecture is recoverable. Per @Acer, GPT5.6 has proposed: "A constant-Jacobian polynomial local biholomorphism with no loss of sheets at infinity—e.g. a proper Keller map—is an automorphism." I would be interested to know if any algebraists (e.g. @levent @littmath) have a reaction to this... A further twist to the story: Not only was the Jacobian conjecture one of the central open problems in algebraic geometry, it was (a special case of) Yitang Zhang's PhD problem! The catch was that Zhang's advisor had him solve it, assuming a lemma of his advisor. But that lemma turned out to be false! As a result, Zhang's thesis crumbled and he then struggled to get recommendation letters and a permanent academic position. Despite all this, Zhang went on to prove bounded gaps between primes! This is one of the most inspiring stories in modern mathematics, and was a motivation for me to work in the same area for my doctorate.
levent@__alpoge__

hello there the jacobian conjecture is false thanx to my close friend akhil for asking about it and my other close friend fable for working during the world cup final ((1+xy)^3 z + y^2 (1+xy) (4+3xy), y + 3 x (1+xy)^2 z + 3 x y^2 (4+3xy), 2 x - 3 x^2 y - x^3 z): \C^3\to \C^3, has jacobian determinant -2, and sends (0, 0, -1/4), (1, -3/2, 13/2), and (-1, 3/2, 13/2) to (-1/4, 0, 0)

English
17
102
799
93.8K
Prakash retweetledi
David Sacks
David Sacks@DavidSacks·
Kimi K3 just fixed 15 critical security bugs that Codex and Fable refused because of “cyber guardrails.” There’s no reason to limit American models on tasks that Chinese models handle without issue. We’re only making ourselves less competitive.
calle@callebtc

I have a report full of security issues of a software I'm working on. Codex won't fix them because of Cyber guardrails Fable won't fix them because of Cyber guardrails Kimi K3 fixed them all. No restrictions, just gets the job done. This will end badly for OpenAI & Anthropic.

English
426
1.3K
13.4K
1M
Prakash retweetledi
Afshine Emrani  MD FACC
Afshine Emrani MD FACC@afshineemrani·
I'm a cardiologist. Everyone is sharing this study as a skin story. They're burying the part that matters. Scientists took the aorta of a 75-year-old donor, applied a single engineered enzyme, and stripped away more than 70% of the molecular damage — bringing it down to the levels you'd see in a 30-year-old artery. Published five days ago in Nature Communications. Revel Pharmaceuticals, with Calico and the University of Colorado. Here's what they erased. Sugar reacts with proteins in your body the same way heat browns bread — slowly, over a lifetime. It leaves behind a residue called CML, the most abundant advanced glycation end product in aging tissue. It welds itself onto collagen and elastin in your skin, your eye lens, and your arterial walls. Two things follow. Your arteries stiffen. And CML latches onto a receptor called RAGE, which drives chronic inflammation — the exact fire I've been writing about for months as the engine of heart disease. Since the 1980s this damage was considered permanent. Your body has no enzyme to remove it. Every existing approach only slows new damage from forming. Nothing touched what was already there. So they built an enzyme that doesn't exist in nature. They screened 45,000 protein structures, then ran five rounds of directed evolution across more than 500 million variants until they had CMLase — a molecular lawnmower that oxidizes the CML off the protein and restores the original, healthy lysine underneath. Not patched. Reversed. Over 70% cleared from elderly arterial tissue. Over 55% from elderly skin — below the levels found in 31-year-old skin. 45-78% in lens proteins. The CEO said they expected 20% and were floored. Arterial stiffness drives systolic hypertension, heart failure, and stroke, and I have no drug that reverses it. I can slow the process. I cannot undo it. This paper says undoing it may be possible. The caveats are real and I won't skip them. This was done on donated tissue in a dish, not in a living person. No functional data yet — we don't know if that artery got measurably more elastic. Delivering a large enzyme deep into human tissue is a hard, unsolved problem. Clinical trials are years away. But something considered permanent for forty years just came off human tissue. We spent a century learning to slow aging. Someone finally figured out how to erase it. Thank you @theallinpod @friedberg @chamath @pesottas
The All-In Podcast@theallinpod

Friedberg: New study shows enzyme reverses skin age from 70+ years to 31 Chamath: That’s a $2T market. Did Scientists Just Discover How to Reverse Skin Aging!? “CML is kind of the predominant molecule that gets formed in this extracellular matrix that's driving aging, and nothing breaks it down. So these scientists set out to try and create an enzyme, an enzyme is a protein that breaks something down, that can break down CML. And so these guys kind of went out and they took the target, which is CML, and tried to figure out, ‘Okay, how do we actually degrade CML, clear that extracellular matrix, and reverse aging?’ They started to test it on the proteins that we would find in our body, casein, collagen, retinal proteins, which are in your eye, hemoglobin, and they were able to get rid of 52 to 97% of the CML, just degrade it away. And then they found several sites where they were able to degrade over 90%. And then they took actual human skin from elderly patients that had donated their skin, and they put this enzyme onto that skin, and they were able to eliminate 55% of the CML on the skin, basically reverse the skin's age down to the age of a 31-year-old, this is from greater than 70-year-old patients, just by putting this enzyme on the skin. And so it's kind of a groundbreaking demonstration of combination of AlphaFold, what's called directed evolution, where you change the order of the DNA that changes the structure of the protein to test different proteins, do high throughput screening, and ultimately make a novel protein that doesn't exist in nature today that can do something pretty profound for human health.” Chamath: “It will be a trillion-dollar market. If you can create a cream…” Friedberg: “I mean, dude, if you could put this enzyme literally on your skin and have it absorb in…” Chamath: “Game over. That alone is $2 trillion.”

English
330
1.4K
7.2K
933.8K
Bryan Cheong
Bryan Cheong@bryancsk·
Between the Gojek cofounder debacle, and expropriation of businesses and private infrastructure, and export centralization, why exactly is Indonesia doing its best to become uninvestable? What's the plan?
English
10
3
51
3.9K
Prakash retweetledi
yanguoliusheng
yanguoliusheng@szygls·
欧洲人最近抢中国空调,不是因为便宜,而是那边卖空调的打法,简直是两个世界。 你看日本空调,技术顶尖,做工扎实,摆在店里,打折,就是没人碰。 为什么?你租个公寓,38度天,热得像铁板烧。你想装个空调,房东第一个摇头,外墙是古建筑,一个孔都不准打。 行,不打孔。你去找物业,物业让你去征求整栋楼的同意。你敲开邻居的门,楼上大爷直接把门摔上。 就算你跑断腿,把所有字都签了,拿着文件去市政厅。对方看一眼,让你两个月后再来问进度。 等你拿到许可,安装工的电话打过去,报价2000欧,不含税。而且,现在下单,下下个月再上门。 一套流程走完,雪都下了。 就在欧洲人快被热到融化的时候,中国厂商直接把一个箱子推到他们面前。 移动分体空调。 没有外机,不用打孔。一根粗管子,从窗户缝里伸出去,卡扣一扣,完事。自己动手,十分钟,插上电,冷风就吹出来了。 最绝的不是这个。 法国人跑来说,我们法律规定,超过2公斤冷媒的空调,每年都要专业人员上门年检,一次几百欧。中国厂商直接把说明书翻到背面,指着一行字:冷媒,1.99公斤。刚好,不用检。 德国人又过来了,说我们这儿有夜间噪音法,超过36分贝就算扰民,警察会上门罚款。中国厂商直接把机器开到最大,拿分贝仪怼在出风口,上面显示一个数字:35。 他们不是在卖一个产品。 他们是把欧洲各国的法律条文、城市规定、甚至是邻里之间那点破事,全都读了一遍,然后做出了一个“标准答案”。 这仗还怎么打? 日本工程师还在实验室里,追求那0.1度的温差,琢磨着怎么让空调再多用上五年。 而中国这边,早就在论坛里问用户了:“你最烦的是什么?是安装,是年检,还是邻居投诉?行,我全给你绕过去。” 一个在造完美的“工业品”,想着怎么教育你。 另一个在做贴心的“服务包”,问你到底哪里疼。 这不是产品和产品在打架,这根本就是两种思路在降维打击。
yanguoliusheng tweet media
中文
865
7.5K
25.1K
5.4M
Prakash
Prakash@8teAPi·
@rh_fardin I always say that the latest model lives in the minds of the researchers. Which is why you have the build the team that builds the AI as carefully as you do the models themselves.
English
0
0
3
237
RH Fardin
RH Fardin@rh_fardin·
@8teAPi assuming a secret better model exists is religion for benchmark watchers
English
1
0
4
248
Prakash
Prakash@8teAPi·
Open weights models are inherently accelerationist because the entire Anthropic plan was to get as far ahead as possible and use the extra time for safety. You should always assume Anthropic is releasing its second best model at any time. The strategy specifically is to stay just ahead of the second place. So the pace is really dictated by the rest of the field. Open weights releases near the frontier forces them into a faster release cadence, especially because their cybersecurity clients now depend on having a defensive edge against widely available open models. As for time period for recoupment of investment.. I expect the field to devolve into Apple/Android dynamics… most of the tokens generated by volume are going to be open source, but most of the profits and the high quality results will be generated by closed frontier labs. And as to whether the frontier labs will actually make any money or have a moat or sustainable competitive advantage… it’s highly dependent on whether recursive self improvement is possible. If it is, then early leads become insurmountable. That’s always been the bet anyway. Enter the recursive period first and get continually better and get to geniuses in a datacenter first, and use those geniuses to generate profits for even more geniuses. If you look at the Anthropic purchases of compute at a premium to what SpaceX/Meta can use them for, we might already have entered this zone.
Dean W. Ball@deanwball

Some observations on Kimi: 1. It's a very good model! I don't think its performance can be explained away by distillation or anything like that. In agentic coding sessions, it seems pretty much on par with the best public models of Q1 2026. In my fairly limited use, it also seemed very token hungry. It's not obvious to me that this model is actually that cheap to run. 2. I am personally surprised the Chinese state continues to allow the open sourcing of models this good, given potential risks. To be clear, I *myself* might be fine with models presenting this level of marginal risk being open weight, but I am surprised that China is fine with it. I suspect the reason they are is 75% explained by strategic blindness/lack of AGI-pilledness (the CCP is very Yann Lecun-y in its views of AI). The other 25% or so is their lack of compute for customer inference (making China's open-weight strategy an unintended byproduct of US export controls) and the normal Chinese strategy of aggressive exports. For the companies, as opposed to the government, the decision to open source is partially ideological and partially because they are behind, and they know that very few people would pay for sub-frontier models from China. 3. Open-weight models are inherently decelerationist, and I'm continually surprised to see the so-called "accelerationists" so excited about open-weight models. I suspect the reason they are is that they know open-weight models are effectively ungovernable, and they simply like the overall cloak of ungovernability open-weight models create over the whole of AI. It's not a bad strategy; it reminds me of James Scott's recounting of the hill people in "the art of not being governed." Still, in the end, open-weight models deter further AI capex. 4. One probable outcome of an open-weight-model-dominant world is full AI communism, which is precisely what China proposes: rather than a market product, AI is a "public good" which will ultimately be provided by the state as a kind of "digital public infrastructure." This future strikes me as a dystopian hellscape, but I've never met an open-weight models advocate who doesn't ultimately concede this is where things end. You'd be surprised how many 'accelerationists' lobbied me, while I was in government, to support an eleven or twelve-figure federally funded data center so that startups could train models at a subsidy and then give them away for free. There was no other way for AI to progress, they said. Perhaps this is the logical end state of things. Nonetheless, I find myself surprised to see supposed accelerationists excited about such an outcome. I think many of them just don't know what they're doing. Many accelerationists do not view the creation and serving of frontier models as a legitimate business. 5. I would guess that the Trump Administration will at some point realize that their best strategy here would be to create large amounts of regulatory risk around the use of open-weight Chinese models. You don't need to "ban open source" (one of the dumber motifs of AI policy discussion). You just need to direct every agency to issue soft law that creates FUD. "A Federal Reserve Advisory Bulletin found that there may be backdoors in Chinese AI models." It needn't be that well justified. You just create enough regulatory risk that every regulated enterprise backs off. You probably don't want to create so much regulatory risk that you scare off the hyperscalers from serving Chinese models; this will just drive startups to sketchier providers. There's a happy middle ground here. I'd assume they will do some version of this. 6. It's probably true that open-weight models of this capability make the world a bit more dangerous, but not so much more that you'll really notice. At some point the models will be capable enough that you will notice. "A nonliving, invisible, dangerous, and infinitely self-replicating agent escaped from a Chinese lab," you say? Color me shocked.

English
12
9
137
12.6K
Prakash
Prakash@8teAPi·
And the corollary is that the frontier labs will drive up the price of compute for everyone. Which has already happened by the way.
English
1
0
9
833
Prakash
Prakash@8teAPi·
Distillation proof
leo 🐾@synthwavedd

🧵 DeepSeek appear to have engaged, or be engaging in, a large-scale operation to collect outputs from proprietary models (including Claude Fable 5) for certain requests via their API as part of a distillation effort. After seeing such claims circulating earlier today, we conducted an investigation into them on our Discord. We found that, when "Deepseek V4" was used within OpenCode - via their official API - for complex prompts (i.e. 3D games) and combined with a knowledge-related query, the model provides virtually identical outputs to Fable 5. CoT structure is also very different from what is typically expected from Deepseek models. Both of these behaviours revert to what is expected for V4 when simpler prompts were used. When "Deepseek V4" was asked to incorporate answers to questions related to cyber or bio tasks that we verified hit Fable's classifiers into its 3D games, outputs tanked in quality. This is very difficult to explain unless the request was routed to Fable and fell back after hitting a classifier. For complex code prompts without anything else mixed in, like 3D games, outputs were remarkably similar to those produced by Fable 5. We were able to produce these results most consistently via OpenCode and the official Deepseek API combined with a prompt that specifies a complex code task. Deepseek have continued to modify their routing system since, as we have observed changes in behaviour and CoT style compared to those seen previously. Our investigation was conducted from 7AM-8AM PT.

English
3
4
16
4.7K
Prakash
Prakash@8teAPi·
@vijayiyengar exactly, but it’s blowing up on social media because the rest of the tech world is feeling the pain of paying in to the frontier labs, so it’s a negotiating tactic to warn the labs not to milk the cow too thoroughly
English
1
0
3
350
Vijay Iyengar
Vijay Iyengar@vijayiyengar·
I'd argue there isn't an American market for Kimi K3, so the risks of it impacting OpenAI / Anthropic financials are overblown. Being almost frontier, somewhat cheaper, and not bundled with existing subscriptions makes it a tough sell. In America: - Consumers will use ChatGPT or Gemini - Prosumers will use Codex or Claude for their subscription plans - Enterprise knowledge workers will use the best model they can get, which is still Fable and Sol. Gemini has shown that being almost frontier and cheaper doesn’t really matter. Frontier labs have models at most price points, so the cost argument won't matter as much either. - Enterprise products will use frontier until they understand the use case well, and then post-train small models. Kimi K3's too big for this relative to smaller options, from China or from US labs like @thinkymachines. The risk then is in other markets. China obviously needs frontier intelligence for their own domestic use cases. They can also support other parts of the world that want alternatives to US models. To be clear, it seems to be a good model. And the training techniques are really cool (KDA, AttnRes, sparsity). But the hysteria about it taking share in the American domestic market doesn't make sense to me. What am I missing?
English
20
1
41
7.9K
Prakash
Prakash@8teAPi·
“US enterprise companies are now switching..” bruh are you retarded ? Nike is still using GPT4. Do you know how long Fortune 500 onboarding takes ? Or do you think boomer CTOs are actually using models published yesterday? How’s that 47th chromosome treating you ?
Cyrus Janssen@thecyrusjanssen

China is winning the AI race and major US enterprise companies are now switching to Chinese AI platforms as the same tasks can be done for 10% of the cost. You can try and claim China has sinister plans but that is pure speculation. In a free market, companies will choose the better value

English
10
2
47
5.7K