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Denny Myers🇺🇲
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Denny Myers🇺🇲
@AViperDen
Citizen of the United States of America. Make America Great Again. There is only the Human race #OpenCarryABQ #NoPorn #NoCrypto #AbolishAbortion
Katılım Nisan 2022
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@___TheGOOdWitch Even if you were right, what's the alternative? Oh right, someone MIGHT have what YOU think is a bad life in YOUR opinion, that gives you justification to MURDER them!
You're sick.
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@snoopsmom123 @libsoftiktok @YvonneRobe15727 You are exactly what the Democrats are trying to create.
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@libsoftiktok @YvonneRobe15727 The Left excuses this behavior.
When they said “Black lives matter,” and people on the right said, “All Lives matter,”
the Left didn’t agree.. They claimed we were racists for even suggesting White lives had any value.
#NeverForget Marxists want a race war.. 👇🏼

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The causes you refer to are not, in and of themselves, uncaused though. They are a result of other causes which are caused by other causes which are caused by still other causes all the way back to the beginning. The only known possible interruption in that series of events that has ever been conceived is when a being that has free will and agency chooses to intervene in that series of cause and effect.
Lets say there's a baseball in a Universe that is totally empty other than the baseball and the baseball is at perfect equilibrium. That baseball will never move no matter how much time passes, it will stay utterly inert (and please, let's not get into the whole concept on how a baseball at perfect equilibrium is not actually possible, I know that, but for the sake of argument pretend that a baseball can have perfect equilibrium).
Now, fast forward some time, and the baseball is now moving. How would you explain that happened?
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@AViperDen @CulturalPaladin @AtheistTakes A cause does not need to choose to cause, most causation we observe is non-volitional and occurs by necessity, not intention.
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OK, this is where it starts getting interesting.
You assert that we know that the Universe was hotter and denser, which says nothing because the Universe was hotter and more dense 5 minutes ago, or when this conversation started, than it is now, so that's not actually saying anything of real substance. Therefore, to try and get to the point, I'll ask you, is there a point where the Universe could not get any hotter or any more dense?
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@AViperDen @AtheistTakes Its expanding from a state where it was previously much hotter and much denser
That is all we know
The second law describes how systems will tend to transition from less probable configurations to more probable configurations
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Under the Biden regime, thousands of children were raped hundreds of times, and the Biden administration and Democrats today, enable it.
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@theraigebaiter @whitefreeze02 @AtheistTakes By not addressing the actual argument presented and engaging in strawmen, red herring, and false equivalency fallacies, you've basically implied that you know he's correct in his argument, but your ego won't allow you to admit it, and so you rant instead of argue.
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@whitefreeze02 @AViperDen @AtheistTakes 2/2 what really created the universe. Humanity is egocentric and superstitious since the dawn of time we have imagined fantastical beings but religion and myths claim they have found the answer with no proof, science KNOWS we haven’t and work towards finding that
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@CulturalPaladin @AViperDen @AtheistTakes Agency is one possible explanation for a first cause, but not a necessary inference unless you first establish that causation requires deliberative initiation, and you haven't
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@OptimalBayes @AtheistTakes So, the Universe is expanding... from what?
The second law of Thermodynamics says what, and what does that mean for the Universe?
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@AViperDen @AtheistTakes There isnt
Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation is evidence of the universe *expanding*
The first law of thermodynamics is that energy is neither created nor destroyed, so thermodynamics certainly doesn't suggest the universe began to exist
Nothing suggests it did
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@theraigebaiter @whitefreeze02 @AtheistTakes You keep telling yourself that in your ignorance.
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OK, all you're saying is that what happened for the Universe to exist is beyond science's capability to measure, describe, and understand, and you're correct, that's why it's called a miracle when God created the Heavens and the Earth, which is in itself evidence of God's existence.
You're wanting a Creator who can fit inside the creation, but that's like trying to prove Leonardo Da'Vinci exists within the Mona Lisa. You'll never find the painter inside the painting itself, but the painting itself is evidence of the painter's existence. It's the same with the Universe.
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@AViperDen @theraigebaiter @whitefreeze02 @AtheistTakes You don’t get to just make an imaginary friend that isn’t beholden to the confines of linear time and space. You have no evidence of this, you just make something up that conveniently isn’t bound by these rules with zero evidence of that being the case.
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@OptimalBayes @AtheistTakes There isn't? Are you certain there's literally NO evidence the universe had a beginning at all? That background radiation, thermodynamics, celestial movement, and basically nearly all the discoveries of cosmologists over the past half-century don't exist?
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@AViperDen @AtheistTakes Maybe maybe not
There are infinitely many possibilities
Point is we have no evidence the universe "began to exist"
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@theraigebaiter @whitefreeze02 @AtheistTakes OK, so we have now established that I have a basis for my claims, and you don't have a basis for yours. Thank you for clearing that up. I really appreciate it!
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@AViperDen @whitefreeze02 @AtheistTakes That’s the neat part, I don’t know how it all began, a lot of people are working to explain. But you say you already know it and the only proof you have is a book written in a time of ignorance and superstition. So I don’t have to explain nothing, but you do. Isn’t religion neat?
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@OptimalBayes @AtheistTakes OK, so cyclical Universe theory, right?
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@AViperDen @AtheistTakes No evidence the universe had an existential beginning
The Big bang describes a *transformation* of the universe from hot+dense to cold+sparse
This was the beginning of the universe becoming cold and sparse, not the beginning of its existence
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@theraigebaiter @whitefreeze02 @AtheistTakes OK, so you believe God doesn't exist. How do you explain why something exists instead of nothing at all that you're so certain of that you can categotically dismiss the idea of God?
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@AViperDen @whitefreeze02 @AtheistTakes Bro, that’s literally an imaginary friend. What proof you have of that? How can a being exist outside of time and space? Is ridiculous. It’s like saying there’s a car that flies but you just haven’t seen it yet, with no documentation or inventor whatsoever, it’s impossible
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Basic premises:
Every effect has a cause.
The effect of something that didn’t exist beginning to exist has a cause.
All observational science indicates our universe had a beginning.
Cyclical universe theory isn't viable due to entropy.
Infinite regression is a logical fallacy, therefore, logically for a Universe to come to exist, there must be an uncaused first cause.
For something to be uncaused, by necessity, it must exist outside of the confines space and time.
For something to exist outside of the confines of space and time to cause something to exist, in order to avoid an infinite regress fallacy, that thing must have intelligence, free will, agency, and the power to cause something to exist.
A being outside of the confines of space and time, with intelligence, free will, agency, and the power to cause a Universe to exist is exactly how the Bible describes God, and therefore logical, God must exist in order to explain our existence based on what we currently know.
Now you're free to believe that someday we will find some viable explanation that we don't currently know that would explain all of this away, but taking what I said above and adding to it the seemingly infinitely complex and interdependent reality we find ourselves, that takes way more blind faith than I am capable of.
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@AViperDen @AtheistTakes We don't know, is there something outside the universe? If there isn't what does that mean regarding God? Is time finite? If it begins, does it end too or is it a one way infinity? Please enlighten me oh great time keeper
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That would be a valid response if we were talking about a god who was bound within the confines of linear time and space like the universe is.
However, one of the attributes that make God God is that He exists outside of linear time and space and therefore concepts like "beginning" or "ending" categorically can never be applied to Him. It's like asking how often do you have to put gasoline in an all electric car, it's a categotical error.
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@whitefreeze02 @AViperDen @AtheistTakes Again, why does that mean there is a god, and if you say that everything must have a begining why does that not apply to your god? See how you don’t understand the false equivalence fallacy? You’re just repeating it like a parrot, we’re working with your logic mate
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No, it can't unfortunately. The energy to run that cycle would have to come from somewhere outside of the Universe, and so we're back to square one, where did that energy come from and why does it feed the cycle?
Now if you throw away the Laws of Physics, there's wild speculations on a Universe that has no entropy, but I've never heard a coherent argument on why we would throw out the Laws of Physics to explain the origins of a physical universe.
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@AViperDen @AtheistTakes It kind of can, we cant know if time exists outside the universe, began with it, or if it's infinite... the universe could be ciclical, could have existed in a condensed form for eternity, could not have a begining or end...
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@God_Questioner Yes. You do every day when you choose weather or not you should bring clothing for inclement weather. You might be wrong in your prediction, but you can make a prediction.
God does not predict the future, to Him it already happened, is happening, and will happen all at once.
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